Destiny1990 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 So what’s the good news? And How will landlords know 24/7 the whereabouts of their tenants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacuum Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, smedly said: all this has done is add more confusion I guess you've stayed here long enough to understand that, confusion, is the thing that going on in their brains. Immi is not the only institution regarding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I would imagine this officer could be joining Big Joke this week............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 12:50 PM, smedly said: yes that about sums it up, it is the most ridiculous cluster <deleted> I have ever experienced - you want to enjoy a weekend away from your permanent residence you will spend most of that time filling in forms, so you go to Bangkok for one night, you spend all day in traffic trying to find immigration stand in a queue for hours and file a TM28 - then do it all again if you go somewhere else, next you'll need a (deleted)ing work permit for the time you spent completing all of this during my postgraduate training i worked with people having "downs syndrome" yes, mental retardation but they functioned at a higher level than you know who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: PHUKET: Phuket Immigration this week made it very clear PHUKET: Phuket Immigration this week made it very clear........ ........ ..... ... One should stop reading past that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losername Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, Vacuum said: Has it ever worked? I use the reliable post office. It worked for me 4 or 5 times then died a death. It scored over the post office because I could do it "couch potato style" without even the effort of licking a stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggy Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, LivinginKata said: Only the TM 30 is required by owner. If the owner not available to do that then the guest can do alone with TM28. Only one required. NOT both. Phew, that's a relief. Thanks for replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Hypothetical situation:- If I get into my car and make an inter-provincial journey from my house to stay with friends in their house for the weekend and return back home without any of us even informing Immigration, they will never know - no problem, unless Immigration set up random road checkpoints for farangs throughout LOS but I do not think so!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The biggest problem is the phrase "up to the discretion of each imm. officer". It is fine to say this is the way it is in Phuket but what about Nakhon Nowhere or Chang Pie?? Every office and officer has his own ideas. We rang our IMM Office a few weeks ago and were told mai pen rai about completing the TM30 form. As I had nothing to that effect in writing to protect ourselves we made the long trip to our office only to find it was half full of people also lodging the TM30 who also didnt believe the officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, losername said: According to the full article the TM28 only has to be done on returning to your home location and the TM30 is done by the person (hotel in my case) where you stay while away. This is a revival of comedy Kappers, try even thinking to translate this into plain English and your lost. Section 37 of the Immigration Act: (3) Notify the police officer at the police station of the locality jurisdiction in which the alien resides within twenty four hours from the time of moving in. In case of change of residence, if the new residence is not in the same locality jurisdiction as the locality of the former police station, the alien shall notify the police officer of the police station of the new locality jurisdiction within twenty four hours from the time of arrival. FORM FOR ALIENS TO NOTIFY THEIR CHANGE OF ADDRESS OR THEIR STAY IN THE PROVINCE FOR OVER 24 HOURS http://www.immigrationbangkok.com/files/visa_forms/tm28.pdf NOTIFICATION FROM FOR HOUSE-MASTER, OWNER OR THE POSSESSOR OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE ALIEN HAS STAYED http://www.immigrationbangkok.com/files/visa_forms/tm30.pdf I give up !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxxper Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said: So as I understand this, I did a 90 day report yesterday (TM47), and I have gone to stay at my friends for the weekend I have to complete a TM28 and my friend has to complete a TM30 within 24 hours. On returning home on Monday I have to complete another TM28 and my wife has to complete another TM30 within 24 hours to say I have returned? Madness!! Jomtien immigration told me yesterday they are not interested in trips within Thailand. They did say if you leave Thailand and return they expect a new TM 30. Just for info. Not sure which office you do your immigration stuff at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfokevin Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I thought they had mooted the idea of issuing us all wristbands or ankle bracelets then all they need is a Find My Bad Guy App?... Seems like that would be a simpler less confusing way to get where they want to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNROAMIN Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said: Is there another app for TM28? Of course there is, its been on Immigrations next to do list somewhere in Na Na land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, paulbrow said: I just got the TM30 squared away after 2 months. Now <deleted> is a TM28? ..we've got a whole lot of TMs just waiting for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: In local Imm Office yesterday...wife asked about this issue....IO simply said Mai Pen Rai....so now we won't bother..not that we ever have. That's been my strategy too. Always worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 How do you file a TM 28 if the landlord wont file a TM 30 and you have never been given the documentation to file? Who is responsible for that than?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiWai Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Tayaout said: In local Imm Office yesterday...wife asked about this issue....IO simply said Mai Pen Rai....so now we won't bother..not that we ever have. Same for me. They did not want me to file a tm28. I guess until they need the fine! "Mai Pen Rai". Three words you will NEVER EVER hear in Phuket Immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megascott Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Right on Time? Right on what time? Time to just confuse everyone? Holy smokes. I think I need more popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAArdvark Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, phetpeter said: No need the hotel inform them you stayed 'X' number of nights, so, unless the computer flags another holel afterwards they should assume you have returned home. but, running down and telling them you are home, makes their job easier. If they wanna see ya, they can phone or visit. But, you do it for them. Wrong. When a TM30 is filed by the hotel, it is the last TM30 on file. They go by that and not the 24 hours They make assumptions but not that you returned home. And remember this is all for Phuket many other IOs do it differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundspeed Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 If you stay at a hotel and they copy your passport then they will probably do the TM30 as required. By law your landlord needs to do another one when you return home. But if you go and stay at a friends or family private place and nobody does a TM30 then how the hell will immigration know? In Chiang mai they didn't want it and had a sign up to that effect when I went there last month. I also heard the two IO on the desk separately tell two other people the same thing. Some of you guys could settle down a little. Relax and enjoy the place. You'll live longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claynlr Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I have a question. filed a TM 30 with Kamphaeng Phet immigration back around the first of July when I arrived with a new OA for retirement so I now stay here full time, retired. Haven’t traveled. Does a TM28 come into play as a new retiree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losername Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, ThaiWai said: How do you file a TM 28 if the landlord wont file a TM 30 and you have never been given the documentation to file? Who is responsible for that than?? No worries. The TM28 only asks for the information you will have to hand. http://www.immigrationbangkok.com/files/visa_forms/tm28.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokerface1 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, smedly said: exactly - they don't you will have to tell them and if they are unavailable you and/or your landlord will get hit with a big fine (depending of course on what office you use) The landlord can assign an agent to act on his behalf. The Thai immigration said it's not that important who fills out the form as long as it is lodged with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebrown Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 hours ago, billsmart said: You need to limit your friends to those who live within your own province... ???? No thanks! Much better would be scrapping the whole TM 28/30 fiasco, or failing this a system that's easy to follow and in line with 21st century technology and thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 How many of you guys have been fined for not filing a TM 30? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Preacher Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, billsmart said: You need to limit your friends to those who live within your own province... ???? Does this mean I cannot stay at you house anymore??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, billsmart said: You need to limit your friends to those who live within your own province... ???? What are the chances of both of them living in the same province? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidfan Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, smedly said: next you'll need a (deleted)ing work permit for the time you spent completing all of this Not as silly as it sounds. I recall reading recently the definition of "work" being any activity involving the input of time and effort whether for reward or not (or words to that effect ) and requires a work permit ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 hours ago, cornishcarlos said: I just don't bother with any of them by making sure I never stay longer than 90 days... Never need to go to my local Imm office, so no issue ???? In the first place your landlord must register you. If landlord does nt then you are illegally in Thailand. In the second place how do you manage 90 days. Tourist visa for 60 day then you need go immigration for 30 day extension. Longer extensions need Immigration approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyhangmon Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 hours ago, billsmart said: You need to limit your friends to those who live within your own province... ???? ... ... yes, either that or you just visit folks who guaranteed won't snitch on you ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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