Laza 45 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Krataiboy said: Don't panic. Ice, wherever it happens to be, does tend to melt in the sun. Hoever, the past three years, Greenland’s surface has gained 250 billion tons more ice than “normal.” 2017 : +200 billion 2018 : +150 billion 2019 : -100 billion If your attention span allows it ..check out the facts.. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-arctic-ice-doubt-reality-climate-change/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laza 45 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Brunolem said: And glaciers are expanding worldwide... And soon we will be able to cross on foot between Alaska and Russia, and maybe also between Norway and Canada... If you are interested in facts read this.. https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/04/08/global-warming-is-shrinking-glaciers-faster-than-thought/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Brunolem said: And nobody has thought about those minerals before? Or is it that they were not accessible through kilometers of ice until recently? As for military bases, no need for the US to worry, it is the sole constructor of these beauties, with a collection of over 800 spreaded over more than 100 countries... the competitors, if any, are still playing in their sand box... well they bought alasaka off the russians so I dont see any problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Laza 45 said: If your attention span allows it ..check out the facts.. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-arctic-ice-doubt-reality-climate-change/ why am i not surprised the graphs started at the peak year 1978 to give the impression of a downward trend rather then a cycle ? this has the fingerprint of creative accounting, mother nature has its cycles, always had always will, the alarmists cherry pick starting dates, hide temper and even destroy previous data, and show a trend starting from a peak, which can only go in one direction by default, until it hit the opposite peak according to the wave progression Edited December 15, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, emptypockets said: How do you explain the various heating and cooling periods of the planet before man existed? Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it. But it is inconvenient for the zealots and tax grabbing politicians to listen to them. The various heating and cooling periods of the planet before man existed happened over thousands of years, wildlife had time to adapt. This time it is happening over a few generations Edited December 15, 2019 by Misab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Misab said: The various heating and cooling periods of the planet before man existed happened over thousands of years, wildlife had time to adopt. This time it is happening over a few generations yes, we can see how stuff has escalated as of late 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Misab said: The various heating and cooling periods of the planet before man existed happened over thousands of years, wildlife had time to adapt. This time it is happening over a few generations Also you write: “Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it.” Could you please tell me which scientist there believe that because as far as I know, this is exactly the propaganda oil companies sends out. But it can be reality when sea water gets too warm and release the stored CO2 then we will really be in trouble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Misab said: Also you write: “Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it.” Could you please tell me which scientist there believe that because as far as I know, this is exactly the propaganda oil companies sends out. But it can be reality when sea water gets too warm and release the stored CO2 then we will really be in trouble look from 19.15 to at least 21 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, brokenbone said: look from 19.15 to at least 21 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQ Come on now, this video is produced by a sect not by scientists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Misab said: Come on now, this video is produced by a sect not by scientists its the truth and nearly everyone understand it, even alarmists 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laza 45 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Something for the denialists to ponder.. no doubt will think normal and natural.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-15/bom-forecasts-extreme-heatwave-for-parts-of-south-and-east/11800976?pfmredir=sm&fbclid=IwAR18ojinnL2POVZ0XUQt3Deu-5VddkkP2gRh3vSQvaZjncGDx2OWlv00qU8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Laza 45 said: Something for the denialists to ponder.. no doubt will think normal and natural.. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-15/bom-forecasts-extreme-heatwave-for-parts-of-south-and-east/11800976?pfmredir=sm&fbclid=IwAR18ojinnL2POVZ0XUQt3Deu-5VddkkP2gRh3vSQvaZjncGDx2OWlv00qU8 my forecast is that BOm wont under any circumstance display data pre 1907 https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1138234-activist-thunberg-denounces-creative-pr-in-climate-fight/?do=findComment&comment=14851959 Edited December 15, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ventenio Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Here's how predictions work!!!!! 1. Your age 2. Number of years before likely death Example: You are 60, will die in 20 years.....so you MUST see the end of the world because it's the end of your world and you're selfish So, in 20-years the Earth will ..... (google, more google, talk to older people, google, read stories on disasters, youtube).... and presto.....you feel slightly better I'm 111 years old, so the Earth will explode in 11 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alacrity Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The OP stated that Thailand is/was fighting climate change. So Thailand is doing what the OP is a proponent of. So, as an entity, why is Thailand in the wrong? Facts; not empathies, feelings and unactual suppositions are what should drive policies. I mostly note that the levels of pollution in China invoke zero adverse comments. Wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, alacrity said: The OP stated that Thailand is/was fighting climate change. So Thailand is doing what the OP is a proponent of. So, as an entity, why is Thailand in the wrong? Facts; not empathies, feelings and unactual suppositions are what should drive policies. I mostly note that the levels of pollution in China invoke zero adverse comments. Wonder why? We don't live in China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted December 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Laza 45 said: If your attention span allows it ..check out the facts.. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-arctic-ice-doubt-reality-climate-change/ Brokenbone beat me to it, debunking the dubious "facts" in your response to the sources I cited in relation to arctic ice. That said, here's an interesting alternative theory about what is going on with our climate. Don't waste your time checking it out with Snopes, a one-man- and-his-dog outfit about as reliable as Thailand's new Ministry of Truth. Edited December 15, 2019 by Krataiboy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Brokenbone beat me to it, debunking the dubious "facts" in your response to the sources I cited in relation to arctic ice. That said, here's an interesting alternative theory about what is going on with our climate. Don't waste your time checking it out with Snopes, a one-man- and-his-dog outfit about as reliable as Thailand's new Ministry of Truth. such a fresh breath of anyone giving a sh!t looking at long term cycles, activists invariably pick a recent peak and start history from there, the big picture gets lost without fail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 5:37 PM, Captain 776 said: Climate change is a total HOAX...... get over it. stop watching CNN how intelligent, you most be watching Fox news 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uli65 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laza 45 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, uli65 said: I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud. I can't believe how many people believe climate hoax nonsense.. truly unbelievable in the age of enlightenment.. or are we entering a dark age of superstition again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 5 hours ago, uli65 said: I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud. Looks like you do, why else are you here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Laza 45 said: I can't believe how many people believe climate hoax nonsense.. truly unbelievable in the age of enlightenment.. or are we entering a dark age of superstition again? you gotta admit it becomes repetitive after a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eaxODT0oA0 Edited December 17, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 10:14 PM, Autonuaq said: I was not aware the we did have had reliable satelite back in 1885 until about the 1969 period. ???? No, there was no satellite back then, but there's a reason for this reference point. And no, it's not because the temperature was the same 137 years ago; actually quite the opposite! Here's what's going on: Scientists mark the start of modern global record-keeping at roughly 137 years ago, in 1880. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 12/16/2019 at 2:16 PM, uli65 said: I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud. I feel sorry for your children and grandchildren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 10:05 PM, Kwasaki said: Yeah the USA people gets no problems from climate change that's why US govt does nothing about it. I agree USA don't do much but I was writing about air pollution here caused mostly by fires 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 6:37 PM, Captain 776 said: Climate change is a total HOAX...... get over it. stop watching CNN Hoax OK? https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/dec/18/australia-extreme-heatwave-weather-forecast-nsw-fires-near-new-south-wales-total-fire-ban-bushfires-victoria-melbourne-sydney-latest-news-live-updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misab Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/15/2019 at 8:19 AM, emptypockets said: How do you explain the various heating and cooling periods of the planet before man existed? Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it. But it is inconvenient for the zealots and tax grabbing politicians to listen to them. As I've written here before; Past climate change has happened over thousands of years, nature had time to adapt, this time it happens within a few generations. Read a little about climate change before you start writing fiction like this; "Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it." This is pure nonsens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, White Christmas13 said: Hoax OK? https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/dec/18/australia-extreme-heatwave-weather-forecast-nsw-fires-near-new-south-wales-total-fire-ban-bushfires-victoria-melbourne-sydney-latest-news-live-updates still a mild breeze compared to 1880-1906 interval. climate is cyclical in nature https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1138234-activist-thunberg-denounces-creative-pr-in-climate-fight/?do=findComment&comment=14851959 Edited December 19, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokenbone Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Misab said: "Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it." This is pure nonsens. no, you are wrong here, there are alarmists that understand co2 is a function of out/in gassing of ocean due to sea temperature, hopefully at least one of the alarmists here understand at least that much, and will speak up. how else would you explain co2 lag behind temperature on an average of 800 years ? on top of that is that its only the past million years any correlation can be noted at all, the million year when the ice ages has correlated with eccentricity of milankovitch cycles, on the extreme low end of both climate and co2 through history. Edited December 19, 2019 by brokenbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saengd Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Thank goodness you've come along to set the record straight and to reassure us that there's no problem, I was worried for a while that this might be a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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