1 hour ago, Krataiboy said:

Don't panic. Ice, wherever it happens to be, does tend to melt in the sun. Hoever, the past three years, Greenland’s surface has gained 250 billion tons more ice than “normal.” 

 

2017 : +200 billion   2018 : +150 billion   2019 :  -100 billion

 

If your attention span allows it ..check out the facts..  

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-arctic-ice-doubt-reality-climate-change/

 

2 hours ago, Brunolem said:

And glaciers are expanding worldwide... 

 

And soon we will be able to cross on foot between Alaska and Russia, and maybe also between Norway and Canada... 

If you are interested in facts read this.. 

 

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/04/08/global-warming-is-shrinking-glaciers-faster-than-thought/

2 hours ago, Brunolem said:

And nobody has thought about those minerals before? 

 

Or is it that they were not accessible through kilometers of ice until recently? 

 

As for military bases, no need for the US to worry, it is the sole constructor of these beauties, with a collection of over 800 spreaded over more than 100 countries... the competitors, if any, are still playing in their sand box... 

well they  bought alasaka  off the russians so I dont see any problem

26 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

If your attention span allows it ..check out the facts..  

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-arctic-ice-doubt-reality-climate-change/

 

why am i not surprised the graphs started at the peak year 1978

to give the impression of a downward trend rather then a cycle ?

this has the fingerprint of creative accounting,

mother nature has its cycles, always had always will,

the alarmists cherry pick starting dates, hide temper and even destroy

previous data, and show a trend starting from a peak,

which can only go in one direction by default,

until it hit the opposite peak according to the wave progression

Edited December 15, 20196 yr by brokenbone

8 hours ago, emptypockets said:

How do you explain the various heating and cooling  periods of the planet before man existed?

 

Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it. But it is inconvenient for the zealots and tax grabbing politicians to listen to them.

The various heating and cooling  periods of the planet before man existed happened over thousands of years, wildlife had time to adapt. This time it is happening over a few generations

 

Edited December 15, 20196 yr by Misab

1 minute ago, Misab said:

The various heating and cooling  periods of the planet before man existed happened over thousands of years, wildlife had time to adopt. This time it is happening over a few generations

 

yes, we can see how stuff has escalated as of late

6 minutes ago, Misab said:

The various heating and cooling  periods of the planet before man existed happened over thousands of years, wildlife had time to adapt. This time it is happening over a few generations

 

Also you write:  “Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it.”

 

Could you please tell me which scientist there believe that because as far as I know, this is exactly the propaganda oil companies sends out.  But it can be reality when sea water gets too warm and release the stored CO2  then we will really be in trouble

14 minutes ago, Misab said:

Also you write:  “Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it.”

 

Could you please tell me which scientist there believe that because as far as I know, this is exactly the propaganda oil companies sends out.  But it can be reality when sea water gets too warm and release the stored CO2  then we will really be in trouble

look from 19.15 to at least 21 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQ

 

7 minutes ago, brokenbone said:

look from 19.15 to at least 21 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYhCQv5tNsQ

 

Come on now, this video is produced by a sect not by scientists

17 minutes ago, Misab said:

Come on now, this video is produced by a sect not by scientists

its the truth and nearly everyone understand it, even alarmists

Something for the denialists to ponder.. no doubt will think normal and natural..

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-15/bom-forecasts-extreme-heatwave-for-parts-of-south-and-east/11800976?pfmredir=sm&fbclid=IwAR18ojinnL2POVZ0XUQt3Deu-5VddkkP2gRh3vSQvaZjncGDx2OWlv00qU8

 

 

8 minutes ago, Laza 45 said:

Something for the denialists to ponder.. no doubt will think normal and natural..

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-15/bom-forecasts-extreme-heatwave-for-parts-of-south-and-east/11800976?pfmredir=sm&fbclid=IwAR18ojinnL2POVZ0XUQt3Deu-5VddkkP2gRh3vSQvaZjncGDx2OWlv00qU8

 

 

my forecast is that BOm wont under any circumstance display data pre 1907

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1138234-activist-thunberg-denounces-creative-pr-in-climate-fight/?do=findComment&comment=14851959

Edited December 15, 20196 yr by brokenbone

Here's how predictions work!!!!!

 

1.  Your age

2.  Number of years before likely death

 

Example:  You are 60, will die in 20 years.....so you MUST see the end of the world because it's the end of your world and you're selfish

 

So, in 20-years the Earth will ..... (google, more google, talk to older people, google, read stories on disasters, youtube)....

 

and presto.....you feel slightly better

 

I'm 111 years old, so the Earth will explode in 11 seconds

The OP stated that Thailand is/was fighting climate change. So Thailand is doing what the OP is a proponent of. So, as an entity, why is Thailand in the wrong?

 

Facts; not empathies, feelings and unactual suppositions are what should drive policies.

 

I mostly note that the levels of pollution in China invoke zero adverse comments. Wonder why?

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, alacrity said:

The OP stated that Thailand is/was fighting climate change. So Thailand is doing what the OP is a proponent of. So, as an entity, why is Thailand in the wrong?

 

Facts; not empathies, feelings and unactual suppositions are what should drive policies.

 

I mostly note that the levels of pollution in China invoke zero adverse comments. Wonder why?

 

 

 

We don't live in China

8 hours ago, Laza 45 said:

If your attention span allows it ..check out the facts..  

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/does-arctic-ice-doubt-reality-climate-change/

 

Brokenbone beat me to it, debunking the dubious "facts" in your response to the sources I cited in relation to arctic ice.

 

That said, here's an interesting alternative theory about what is going on with our climate. Don't waste your time checking it out with Snopes, a one-man- and-his-dog outfit about as reliable as Thailand's new Ministry of Truth.

 

 

Edited December 15, 20196 yr by Krataiboy

15 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Brokenbone beat me to it, debunking the dubious "facts" in your response to the sources I cited in relation to arctic ice.

 

That said, here's an interesting alternative theory about what is going on with our climate. Don't waste your time checking it out with Snopes, a one-man- and-his-dog outfit about as reliable as Thailand's new Ministry of Truth.

 

 

such a fresh breath of anyone giving a sh!t looking at long term cycles,

activists invariably pick a recent peak and start history from there,

the big picture gets lost without fail

On 12/14/2019 at 5:37 PM, Captain 776 said:

Climate change is a total HOAX...... get over it.

stop watching CNN

how intelligent, you most be watching Fox news

I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud.

21 minutes ago, uli65 said:

I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud.

I can't believe how many people believe climate hoax nonsense.. truly unbelievable in the age of enlightenment.. or are we entering a dark age of superstition again?

5 hours ago, uli65 said:

I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud.

Looks like you do, why else are you here?

16 hours ago, Laza 45 said:

I can't believe how many people believe climate hoax nonsense.. truly unbelievable in the age of enlightenment.. or are we entering a dark age of superstition again?

you gotta admit it becomes repetitive after a while

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eaxODT0oA0

 

Edited December 17, 20196 yr by brokenbone

On 12/14/2019 at 10:14 PM, Autonuaq said:

I was not aware the we did have had reliable satelite back in 1885 until about the 1969 period.

????

No, there was no satellite back then, but there's a reason for this reference point. And no, it's not because the temperature was the same 137 years ago; actually quite the opposite! Here's what's going on: Scientists mark the start of modern global record-keeping at roughly 137 years ago, in 1880.

On 12/16/2019 at 2:16 PM, uli65 said:

I can not not believe how many people are following blind this climate hoax fraud.

I feel sorry for your children and grandchildren

 

On 12/14/2019 at 10:05 PM, Kwasaki said:

Yeah the USA people gets no problems from climate change that's why US govt does nothing about it.

I agree USA don't do much but I was writing about air pollution here caused mostly by fires

On 12/14/2019 at 6:37 PM, Captain 776 said:

Climate change is a total HOAX...... get over it.

stop watching CNN

Hoax OK?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/dec/18/australia-extreme-heatwave-weather-forecast-nsw-fires-near-new-south-wales-total-fire-ban-bushfires-victoria-melbourne-sydney-latest-news-live-updates

On 12/15/2019 at 8:19 AM, emptypockets said:

How do you explain the various heating and cooling  periods of the planet before man existed?

 

Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it. But it is inconvenient for the zealots and tax grabbing politicians to listen to them.

As I've written here before; Past climate change has happened over thousands of years, nature had time to adapt, this time it happens within a few generations.
Read a little about climate change before you start writing fiction like this; "Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it."  This is pure nonsens.

 

9 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

Hoax OK?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/dec/18/australia-extreme-heatwave-weather-forecast-nsw-fires-near-new-south-wales-total-fire-ban-bushfires-victoria-melbourne-sydney-latest-news-live-updates

still a mild breeze compared to 1880-1906 interval. climate is cyclical in nature

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1138234-activist-thunberg-denounces-creative-pr-in-climate-fight/?do=findComment&comment=14851959

 

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by brokenbone

47 minutes ago, Misab said:

 "Many scientists believe the research that shows the level of CO2 is a function of temperature rise, not the cause of it."  This is pure nonsens.

 

no, you are wrong here,

there are alarmists that understand co2 is a function of

out/in gassing of ocean due to sea temperature,

hopefully at least one of the alarmists here understand at least that much, and will speak up.

how else would you explain co2 lag behind temperature

on an average of 800 years ?

 

on top of that is that its only the past million years any correlation can be noted at all, the million year

when the ice ages has correlated with eccentricity of milankovitch cycles, on the extreme low end of

both climate and co2 through history.

Edited December 19, 20196 yr by brokenbone

Thank goodness you've come along to set the record straight and to reassure us that there's no problem, I was worried for a while that this might be a serious problem.