First Non-O visa for retirement and later the extension.

[BRUFC]

My 'permission to stay' (originally O-A Visa) expires early June. I will have to then complete a further 5 months at 65000 baht incoming to total 12 months incoming by leaving the country and working on SETV plus extension and visa exempt plus extension.

I have several questions...

1. Is the 12 x 65000 baht (780,000baht total) sufficient or does the total have to be 800,000baht minimum.
2. Is an average of 65000 per month acceptable...for example a month of say 50000 followed by 80000? I don't anticipate problems with the 65000 but it's as well to be forewarned.

3. I think (please correct me if I'm wrong) that there is an 'unwritten' rule regarding land entries. Two per annum I believe? Are these just for visa exempt entries or for visa entries too? Is this a calendar year or a 'rolling' year?

Thank you for your time and I hope UbonJoe is able to respond....his reputation precedes him.

[elviajero]

1 hour ago, BRUFC said:

1. Is the 12 x 65000 baht (780,000baht total) sufficient or does the total have to be 800,000baht minimum.

Yes, 12 x 65K is CCF sufficient.

 

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2. Is an average of 65000 per month acceptable...for example a month of say 50000 followed by 80000? I don't anticipate problems with the 65000 but it's as well to be forewarned.

No. The amount can vary but every month must be a minimum of 65K.

 

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3. I think (please correct me if I'm wrong) that there is an 'unwritten' rule regarding land entries. Two per annum I believe? Are these just for visa exempt entries or for visa entries too? Is this a calendar year or a 'rolling' year?

There is an official regulation limiting VE entries to two per calendar year. It doesn’t apply to visa entries.

[ubonjoe]

You will not need 12 months of transfers to do the 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry application and then the extension of stay. It it will be considered as your first extension of stay since you will have a new non immigrant visa entry to start with. Only a few months is required for the first application.

All of your transfers must be 65k baht or more. A average income is not allowed.

[BRUFC]

Elviajero and Ubonjoe, I thank you both for the info. Much appreciated.

[billsmart]

6 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You will not need 12 months of transfers to do the 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry application and then the extension of stay. It it will be considered as your first extension of stay since you will have a new non immigrant visa entry to start with. Only a few months is required for the first application.

All of your transfers must be 65k baht or more. A average income is not allowed.

And, if you last entered Tahiland on an O-A visa and are seeking a One Year Extension of Stay using Retirement criteria, you will need to have an acceptable healthcare insurance policy. 

That's my understanding, but I'll be anxious to see what Ubonjoe has to say... 

[BRUFC]

4 hours ago, billsmart said:

And, if you last entered Tahiland on an O-A visa and are seeking a One Year Extension of Stay using Retirement criteria, you will need to have an acceptable healthcare insurance policy. 

That's my understanding, but I'll be anxious to see what Ubonjoe has to say... 

Hi Bill, thanks for posting. Elviajero and Ubonjoe have clarified things for me. I do not intend to get an extension of my O-A permission to stay, so having decided, finally, to stay in Thailand it seems that the O- visa (retirement) is the way to go currently, but the current rules may change. Both previous posters showed me the easiest way forward with things as they stand now.

[MeePeeMai]

11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You will not need 12 months of transfers to do the 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) entry application and then the extension of stay. It it will be considered as your first extension of stay since you will have a new non immigrant visa entry to start with. Only a few months is required for the first application.

All of your transfers must be 65k baht or more. A average income is not allowed.

Does this also apply to those of us who's Embassies no longer provide the income verification letters?  I was under the impression that without an Embassy letter, it was either 800k in a bank account for 2 months or 12 x 65k monthly transfers to get a new Non-O or an extension to a new Non-O (based on over 50) here in Thailand.

 

Thanks for your reply Joe

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, MeePeeMai said:

Does this also apply to those of us who's Embassies no longer provide the income verification letters?  I was under the impression that without an Embassy letter, it was either 800k in a bank account for 2 months or 12 x 65k monthly transfers to get a new Non-O or an extension to a new Non-O (based on over 50) here in Thailand.

As wrote for the first extension of stay application only 1 or 2 transfers are required. Same for the non immigrant visa application.That is written in the police order.

If they wanted 12 months nobody could apply for their first extension or visa unless the had already been here for year.

[BRUFC]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

As wrote for the first extension of stay application only 1 or 2 transfers are required. Same for the non immigrant visa application.

That is written in the police order.

Well done Joe, you accurately read between the lines. I'm sorry, I neglected to say I was British, so obviously no Embassy Income letter to be forthcoming. 

[Max69xl]

21 hours ago, billsmart said:

And, if you last entered Tahiland on an O-A visa and are seeking a One Year Extension of Stay using Retirement criteria, you will need to have an acceptable healthcare insurance policy. 

That's my understanding, but I'll be anxious to see what Ubonjoe has to say... 

He's starting all over again with a conversion to a 90 days Non-immigrant O Visa.