Climate protesters dig up Cambridge college's lawn

[Tippaporn]

16 minutes ago, jany123 said:

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But herein the question causing you grief, was something as simple as “what law was broken?”, which gives no one the benefit of the doubt, but rather, establishes boundaries and responsibilities

 

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The question doesn't inflict grief but incredulity.  How else can I define common sense which would give warning that something is amiss.  Not everything need be intellectualised in order to end up with knowing.  We have more traits than just mental faculties.  If we relied on intellect alone to sustain ourselves in life I believe we wouldn't survive very long at all.  Common sense is one of those other faculties we possess.  I rely on mine in combination with all of my other faculties.  At least I try as best I can.

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by Tippaporn

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Rhys said:

.. is that what students learn in school?

 

Interesting that you feel the need to find the answer to your question on an online discussion forum.

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

The question doesn't inflict grief but incredulity.  How else can I define common sense which would give warning that something is amiss.  Not everything need be intellectualised in order to end up with knowing.  We have more traits than just mental faculties.  If we relied on intellect alone to sustain ourselves in life I believe we wouldn't survive very long at all.  Common sense is one of those other faculties we possess.  I rely on mine in combination with all of my other faculties.  At least I try as best I can.

 

Pray tell, in which organ of the body does ‘common sense’ reside?

[Chomper Higgot]

23 minutes ago, Basil B said:

The law on protesting needs radical changes...

 

There should be a rite to protest, protesters should be be able to be seen and heard to a point, but it should stop short of actions that cause a nuisance, inconvenience or announce to the public in general. 

 

Of course if tens of thousands wish to protest that that may well cause inconvenience to some but if organisers had a legal duty to mitigate such protests as too cause minimal inconvenience or announce.

 

 

So let’s take that to it’s logical conclusion.

 

Is there nothing that warrants/justifies a protest that goes beyond creating an inconvenience or nuisance to the public?

 

Think carefully before responding.

[faraday]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pray tell, in which organ of the body does ‘common sense’ reside?

A you a man of the cloth, Chomper?

 

[Tippaporn]

42 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Great... so you ask W.t.F?... And are told that they are holding a demonstration. What are you going to do? Presumedly you will ask if it’s a legal or sanctioned demonstration. Right? Surely that’s the next question.

 

anyway... armed with this information, whom do you call? Ghostbusters?....  You don’t have the ability to make a complaint.... so all your doing is making armchair pronouncements to big yourself up. I would kick their ass... blah blah.

 

action... complaint...analyze...react... common sense really. Jumping in guns blazing is oh so Hollywood.... as is vigilant marvel comics... but that appears to be were your at.

I did say to use force if necessary.  But you're unjustly characterising my mention of force to an extreme.  And I never claimed that "I would kick their ass."  Force does not always equate to violence.  As to how a hypothetical event would unfold were I involved that would be up to the use of my own resources.  That may sound cryptic but I won't elaborate.  I leave it as food for thought or perhaps not.  Up to you.

 

Now though, I will give credit where credit is due, jany.  Barbs and sarcasm have been thrown by both sides but you have overall been very civil, patient and willing to present your views in gentlemanly fashion.  So I say I appreciate that.  You've been absolutely sterling compared to many of the other posters who take opposing viewpoints on these threads.

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by Tippaporn

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, faraday said:

A you a man of the cloth, Chomper?

 

As a young man I came across an advertisement in the newspaper that read something along the lines of ‘Young men interested in the priesthood please contact......’

 

As I read the advert, and being at a bit of a loose end, I asked my parents ‘Do you think I should take up the cloth cloth’.

 

To which my mother replied, ‘’Yes, take up thy cloth and cleaneth the kitchen’.

 

And there ended my ecclesiastical ambitions. (Well apart from a little while spent reading Bede et al).

 

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[Tippaporn]

30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Interesting that you feel the need to find the answer to your question on an online discussion forum.

Chomper, does it thrill you to be insulting to others for no discernible reason?  For what other reason would you make that cutting comment unrelated to anything?  Asking in all seriousness and not demanding an answer.

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by Tippaporn

[elliss]

6 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Must be reassuring for the likes of Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates and George Soros to know the millions they lavish on climate change activism is being well spent.

 

     Work experience , priceless ..

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by elliss

[Cryingdick]

The university should throw in the towel and give in to the protesters. They are right lawns are evil so why not just pave it under and make a permanent place of protest for them? Just make sure they agree to pick up their garbage. 

[Matzzon]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

That´s good digging!

[rabas]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pray tell, in which organ of the body does ‘common sense’ reside?

The genes. It evolved over billions of years. It's there to help guide us. However, it's not expressed in some people's genes, Chomper.

 

Extinction rebel's and their supports may be a good example.

Edited February 18, 2020 by rabas

[faraday]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As a young man I came across an advertisement in the newspaper that read something along the lines of ‘Young men interested in the priesthood please contact......’

 

As I read the advert, and being at a bit of a loose end, I asked my parents ‘Do you think I should take up the cloth cloth’.

 

To which my mother replied, ‘’Yes, take up thy cloth and cleaneth the kitchen’.

 

And there ended my ecclesiastical ambitions. (Well apart from a little while spent reading Bede et al).

 

 

But not touching cloth, I hope.

 

Truthfully, I did consider the Priesthood when I was around 16.

 

Glad I didn't.

[Tippaporn]

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Pray tell, in which organ of the body does ‘common sense’ reside?

You can ask as well in which organ your consciousness resides.  The answer would be the same.

[RJRS1301]

On 2/18/2020 at 9:54 PM, jany123 said:

There ya go, your getting the hang of it. I would indeed ask the missus if she hired someone to do some landscaping, but only because I would be managing my property and be paying.

 

now... the police are neither managing the property in question, nor paying to have damages repaired (an afternoons work of resoodding), that would be an issue for trinity college, not the police, who would be waiting to be asked for assistance in the matter.

 

common sense... lol.... you don’t like my analogy... try this;

a nightclub fight should be dealt with by

a/ police on their own initiative

b/ nightclub security under a code of conduct, detailing when police should be called

Nightclub is not the lawn of a private college on a university campus, no comparison

[Cryingdick]

I am still curious what the protestors would replace the lawn with? 

[RJRS1301]

7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

I am still curious what the protestors would replace the lawn with? 

Italian Marble?

 

[jany123]

14 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Nightclub is not the lawn of a private college on a university campus, no comparison

Lmao.... how about;

a private college has its lawn dug up by a group of demonstrators. Should this be dealt with by 

a/ police on their own initiative

b/ campus security under their university approved protocols

[UbonThani]

17 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

I am still curious what the protestors would replace the lawn with? 

Tofu and vegan meat.

[Damrongsak]

One way to get rid of gophers ...

 

 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Damrongsak

[RJRS1301]

4 hours ago, jany123 said:

Lmao.... how about;

a private college has its lawn dug up by a group of demonstrators. Should this be dealt with by 

a/ police on their own initiative

b/ campus security under their university approved protocols

Police at most university private colleges in UK have to be "invited" to attend unless investigating a serious crime(murder etc) or life is at risk.