webfact Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Germany to buy 'unbelievable amount' of facemasks - TV FILE PHOTO: Masks are displayed at a general store, during the outbreak of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in the Kreuzberg district of Berlin, Germany, April 3, 2020. REUTERS/Michele Tantussi FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Germany is ramping up efforts to purchase facemasks in an effort to contain the coronavirus, the country's vice chancellor, Olaf Scholz, told the Anne Will television show on Sunday. "We need unbelievable amounts of masks. Our entire effort is to procure them. That is where we stand today," he told the programme which was broadcast on ZDF. Germany's efforts to buy masks comes at a time when the United States has stepped up efforts to do the same, prompting complaints about the superpower's "Wild West" tactics in outbidding buyers who have already signed deals. Scholz wants to bring production of important medical equipment back to Europe, a step that will make some of these goods more expensive but more accessible, he said. Scholz further ruled out a cut in income taxes for Germans, given the need for the country to repay economic rescue packages designed to prop up the economy. (Reporting by Edward Taylor; Editing by Daniel Wallis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-06 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post car720 Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 I just read that the yanks pirated the whole shipment at Bangkok airport. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 I can hear the patter of little feet as the ' but masks are totally useless ' brigade gather themselves to defend going maskless. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Denim Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 15 hours ago, car720 said: I just read that the yanks pirated the whole shipment at Bangkok airport. Thais would never let that happen. ...............except for a stuffed A4 envelope. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnacha Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I am amazed, here in Europe, when I go to the shops once a week for essential supplies, that so few people wear masks. It is actually insane when you consider the risk they are taking. I am learning that, when a real crisis hits, a lot of people have trouble adapting to the new reality, and cling to the idea that it isn't really happening or, at least, does not need to be taken seriously. There seems to be a sort of pride in it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: Germany to buy 'unbelievable amount' of facemasks I don't believe it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tifino Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 let them have their masks... or they will build tanks!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimmyTheMook Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 52 minutes ago, Logosone said: It's not insane at all not to wear masks, the scientific evidence that masks many any difference at all is non-existent. What really happens in crisis is that people get so scared they try to cling to the idea that they have any kind of control over the events, and they have a cherished belief that masks make a difference. The evidence does not support that. These German masks are for medical employees and police. The German health minister has made clear that there is no obligation to wear a mask. German senior doctors have confirmed that masks are of no use, and the head of the RKI has confirmed there is no evidence that masks protect another party if one has the virus. A covid19 carrier walks past you and sneezes in your face unexpectedly - would you have wanted an N95 facemask on ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BTB1977 Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, car720 said: I just read that the yanks pirated the whole shipment at Bangkok airport. You heard wrong US conglomerate 3M on Saturday denied German claims that a shipment of 200,000 medical face masks ordered by the city of Berlin amid the coronavirus pandemic had been confiscated in the Thai capital, Bangkok, by US officials. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post manhood Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 If that crisis will learn the western countries not outsourcing important things, especially for health reasons and produce this for higher costs: we learned a lot. We have to get rid of depending on countries such as india, china ect. producing medicine! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, BTB1977 said: You heard wrong US conglomerate 3M on Saturday denied German claims that a shipment of 200,000 medical face masks ordered by the city of Berlin amid the coronavirus pandemic had been confiscated in the Thai capital, Bangkok, by US officials. That 3M has denied this happened does not make it untrue. I’m not saying it is true but I’m not going to take 3M’s denial as proof it isn’t. Do you have a link to an independent and credible source proving this story is false? Genuine request. Edited April 6, 2020 by Bluespunk Punctuation 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Logosone said: It's not insane at all not to wear masks, the scientific evidence that masks many any difference at all is non-existent. You keep repeating this falsehood relentlessly through many threads. Your links to 'proof' say anything but what you claim. Most talk about their own studies' failures, none even tried to measure real masks' efficiency. One of your references only talked about tee shirts. There is tons of literature proving the efficiency of different kinds of masks, even from manufactures, all of which you ignore. Masks do work according to their specifications, especially N95,N99, N100, types. If not, why is your own country Germany making such a fuss? This is duh level science! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadee Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, donnacha said: I am amazed, here in Europe, when I go to the shops once a week for essential supplies, that so few people wear masks. It is actually insane when you consider the risk they are taking. I am learning that, when a real crisis hits, a lot of people have trouble adapting to the new reality, and cling to the idea that it isn't really happening or, at least, does not need to be taken seriously. There seems to be a sort of pride in it. Did you see Trump say at a press conference that masks aren't necessary and he won't wear one? Many people hear that and listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, jadee said: Did you see Trump say at a press conference that masks aren't necessary and he won't wear one? Many people hear that and listen. No, he never said masks are not necessary. Just the opposite. From the press conference: "The CDC is recommending that Americans wear a basic cloth or fabric mask that can be either purchased online or simply made at home, probably material that you’d have at home. These face coverings can be easily washed or reused. I want to emphasize that the CDC is not recommending the use of medical grade or surgical grade masks, and we want that to be used for our great medical people that are working so hard and doing some job. Medical protective gear must be reserved for the frontline healthcare workers who are performing those vital services" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Posts using a derogatory comment in reference to the German people have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, donnacha said: I am amazed, here in Europe, when I go to the shops once a week for essential supplies, that so few people wear masks. It is actually insane when you consider the risk they are taking. I am learning that, when a real crisis hits, a lot of people have trouble adapting to the new reality, and cling to the idea that it isn't really happening or, at least, does not need to be taken seriously. There seems to be a sort of pride in it. It is compulsory in Austria to wear masks when shopping. And only necessary essential suppliers are open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Instead of scouring an empty market for masks they should get companies in Germany to make them. The name "Hartmann" springs to mind. They can bring their mask production back from China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Why woud Trump go to so much trouble over a shipment of masks.? He obviously is an unbeliever or is he just scared of ruffling his ?hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, natway09 said: Why woud Trump go to so much trouble over a shipment of masks.? He obviously is an unbeliever or is he just scared of ruffling his ?hair When you would have any understanding of how the US health service is organised, you could have known buying mask abroad is nothing for the US government, but for OR traders with demands from US hospital organisations of these organisations themselves. Health care in the US = BIG BUSINESS, at least... for those who can afford it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Why any mask should not help ( a little) ? Even when I hold an A4-envelop between myself and any other, I create a barrier to fluid drops which might be infected. When this decreases teh risk of getting covid-19 with just 5 %, I am already happy. I am NOT asking for a 100% guarantee, I will not get it whatever contacts, but.. just a decrease of risk. So, I made something myself, being washed after every use outside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 7 hours ago, car720 said: I just read that the yanks pirated the whole shipment at Bangkok airport. Can you post a link? Because I read where 3M deny the German politicians unsubstantiated claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 Another German politician complaining that German plans to hoard masks are being thwarted by "Ameica" - without any reference to who America is, or any factual information to support his claim. But of course, sees nothing wrong with Germany trying to greedily buy up all the masks! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasmus5150 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, natway09 said: Why woud Trump go to so much trouble over a shipment of masks.? He obviously is an unbeliever or is he just scared of ruffling his ?hair Or when wearing a white mask, it will turn orange in the sides because of all the fake tan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 If anyone can do it the Germans can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joinaman Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said: A covid19 carrier walks past you and sneezes in your face unexpectedly - would you have wanted an N95 facemask on ? do these masks cover your eyes too? If someone sneezes in your face, only a face visor will protect you. If someone sneezes in my face, its a baseball bat i would want, or a shotgun !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrada Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 None of these masks can protect you from a Corona Virus which is only 0.12Micron wide. Medical, Surgical and N95 masks are intended for bacteria and particles of 0.3Micron and above. A cloth mask cannot even protect you much from PM2.5 air pollution. The water in droplets evaporates and particles such as viruses under 0.3micron can pass through. Tests show that a sneeze can propel particles with bacteria and virions up to 8.2Metres without a wind and more with a following wind. However, people feel more protected if everyone wears a mask at the moment. Out doors the weather is generally 30C and above with 80% humidity so that the virus will only survive a few hours outside of a host, quite different to Europe and North America where in New York the temperature is 10C to 19C. Under those conditions the virus can survive for up to 28 days The main problem here is in shopping malls, offices, boxing stadiums and large entertainment buildings, with centralised airconditioning systems that drop the temperature and circulate the air. Under those conditions it can survive outside a host for up to a week. It was the right decision to shut down the shopping malls therefore. If you want to make a mask that works for COVID-19, search for 0.1Micron precision textiles like we use in filtration systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anterian Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Masks won't block the virus, however they will block droplets of water loaded with the virus, droplets such as those produced by coughing and sneezing. So a mask is of use, even more so if combined with a plastic face screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said: A covid19 carrier walks past you and sneezes in your face unexpectedly - would you have wanted an N95 facemask on ? sneezing is not common for covids 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 7 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said: A covid19 carrier walks past you and sneezes in your face unexpectedly - would you have wanted an N95 facemask on ? Never ever happened in my life that someone sneezes in my face. EVER! What nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungleBiker Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Logosone said: Never ever happened in my life that someone sneezes in my face. EVER! What nonsense. Regardless of your opinion, https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3078407/coronavirus-world-health-organisation-reverses-course-now-supports wearing face masks in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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