Do anyone remember the first Covid-19 case outside China?

 

It was a Chinese man in Thailand!

 

Just one unobserved case can be a superspreader; is the possibility of a second total lockdown worth to risk for having some tourists coming?

1 hour ago, aussiexpat said:

I'm all for the travel bubble, seeing as how Australia is on the list of safe countries ????

 

Seems to have worked for Australia who let New Zealand travellers in without requiring quarantine. 

Yes but the New Zealanders have to go into quarantine when they arrive home

4 hours ago, alianware said:

I think so too. Until the whole bars area and the dollars are empty and they will suddenly realize that there are still need farangs.

Who are you kidding?

 

Those in charge will never admit that.

 

The poor and those destitute from this crisis are dust under their feet. 

57 minutes ago, davidmann said:

Amazing ,the  Chinese  ,start a virus ,the whole world is sick ,millions of people lost there Jobs/Dead, business  failure  everywhere. ,not many people not been effected by this ,WHAT DO THAILAND COME UP WITH TO REWARD THE CHINESE COME ON HOLIDAY. , has anybody opened wild animal restaurant  yet to make them feel at home.  ,special of the day Bat soup 

Don't you remember Thai Immigration and Thai Police making that video at the beginning of all of this, the one they called "We Stand with Wuhan." The sequel is now in production, "We are Part of Wuhan."

2 hours ago, Spock said:

New Zealanders can now enter Australia without quarantining. It shouldn't be necessary between countries that have no or very few active cases. Expecting people to quarantine is not going to resuscitate tourism. Nobody expects Thailand to open up to the countries you mention, but a quarantine free bubble with covid free countries would be a good way to reintroduce tourists to the country. With a vaccine just around the corner, the risks are not so great if tourism is currently contained to a select few countries, but not just China. 

they are destroyers not reformers..To expected 

3 hours ago, Swimfan said:

Yes but the New Zealanders have to go into quarantine when they arrive home

Are you sure? First I have heard of it, but it's unnecessary.

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5 minutes ago, Traubert said:

 

Way to go!

 

Not.

Why do you say that? 

 

Deaths are also very low. Averaging around 20 a day in Saudi right now, population 35 million. I would say they're doing an excellent job. 

 

Life is as normal. Infections are low. Deaths are very low. And the economy is not shutdown. 

2 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

Why do you say that? 

 

Deaths are also very low. Averaging around 20 a day in Saudi right now, population 35 million. I would say they're doing an excellent job. 

 

Life is as normal. Infections are low. Deaths are very low. And the economy is not shutdown. 

I misunderstood.

 

Apologies.

3 minutes ago, bermondburi said:

Why do you say that? 

 

Deaths are also very low. Averaging around 20 a day in Saudi right now, population 35 million. I would say they're doing an excellent job. 

 

Life is as normal. Infections are low. Deaths are very low. And the economy is not shutdown. 

 

9 hours ago, outsider said:

 

No, according to Thailand. Westerners, farangs and the similar sorts are dirty, pesky, infected and have no money. The rest of the world simply does not exist, as far as Thailand is concerned. So yes, just their Chinese paymasters exist, then.

 

It's the exact reason the Prayut administration is not fit to serve Thai nationals. They are turning Thailand into a Chinese province 

5 hours ago, robbioff said:

Look at the survival rates, over 99.5%, and tell me this isn’t a global over-reaction 

Actually better than that. According to Jon Ioannidis' peer reviewed study accept by the WHO, the ifr is .23% (.05% for people under 70 years of age), so the survival rate is 99.77%. It's a colossal overreaction.

 

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf

5 hours ago, bermondburi said:

Not suggesting UK numbers are okay, but there has to be a certain number of cases that are manageable

 

Lots of cases because of lots of testing ?

 

and the death rate ?

9 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

They have a reason for this .

They are worried that the chinese tourists will become infected abroad and take the virus back to China .

They seem to be more careful than ...

 

To the many posters here who wish for quarantine to be abolished ... don't you see what is going on in the world ?

Exponential growth of infections about everywhere , and still many believe that the virus is nothing but a hoax ?

Go and visit a hospital in the US or Uk , or France , Spain , Italy , India etc ...

I don't think anyone believes the covid19 flu is a hoax. Its more the illogical reaction to it, and hence a differing of opinion - Yes the C19 flu infection rates are ongoing, but what are the deaths FROM this virus, not death With as we all know this is flawed. 

 

As for hospitals, in the UK they are not overflowing with cases, the Nightingale hospitals were never and are not being used, indeed a nurse has recently publicly resigned whist providing evidence that the hospital she worked in only have 4 covid19 flu patients - but yet the hospital had cancelled all routine medical services and she had little to do for the last 3 weeks. Doctors all over the world are speaking out against the measure taken to combat this Covid19 flu. So its both the method of combat and the false information and over reporting that folk are disagreeing with, not the existence of the virus itself - I would have though that was easy to understand?

2 hours ago, johng said:

 

Lots of cases because of lots of testing ?

 

and the death rate ?

Not sure what your point is, but for sure, more testing means more cases. 

 

And doctors know a lot more now so treatment is better, so less people die, and now more younger people have it now in the Uk, so less people die. 

Was looking at a facebook site about Thailand the other day and it was advertising Thailand tourism as business as usual. 

I asked a question and was promptly told it was open and no problems. haha

TOT is trolling the internet making sure they portray all is normal.

5 hours ago, garyk said:

Was looking at a facebook site about Thailand the other day and it was advertising Thailand tourism as business as usual. 

I asked a question and was promptly told it was open and no problems. haha

TOT is trolling the internet making sure they portray all is normal.

 

 

Its so frustrating listening to friends that just google "Can I travel to Thailand" and then think they know more than me after being on TVF for 8 months researching daily.

There is a lot of risk on betting on only one horse.