Mixing vaccines - recommendations

[Thomas J]

4 hours ago, sandyf said:

Irrelevant. Come back when the EU introduces the vaccine certificate requirement.

Irrelevant?  I guess if you don't mind not being granted entry into the country and consider that irrelevant.  Sinovac has not received marketing authorization.  It "may" but as of right now it does not. 

 

[sandyf]

13 hours ago, Thomas J said:

Irrelevant?  I guess if you don't mind not being granted entry into the country and consider that irrelevant.  Sinovac has not received marketing authorization.  It "may" but as of right now it does not. 

 

Since when did it become compulsory to be vaccinated to enter the EU, that's right it isn't.

Come back when it is.

[Rulie]

fizer is expanding its R&D efforts in China and announced plans to build a new facility.

An agreement has been signed to establish a new Pfizer R&D centre in Wuhan, which the firm says represents an expansion of its existing facility in Shanghai. Once the new plant is built, the company expects the number of employees to grow to 200 within three years but gave no details about the financial investment involved.

Pfizer noted that its Wuhan operation will liaise with local research institutes and universities “utilising the rich resources of local talent and existing industry capabilities to develop research collaborations”. It stressed that Shanghai will remain “the operations hub of Pfizer's R&D effort in China”.

Allan Gabor, the company’s North Asia president, noted that it is the first to establish a significant R&D presence in China’s Central/Western region. He added that the Wuhan centre will be an integral part of Pfizer's global R&D operations “while being closely aligned with the Chinese government’s strategy on biopharmaceutical industry development in the region."

The site will be based at the Wuhan National Bioindustry Base, or Biolake, the construction for which started in November last year.

[Thomas J]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

Since when did it become compulsory to be vaccinated to enter the EU, that's right it isn't.

Come back when it is.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/when-it-comes-to-a-travel-restart-all-vaccines-are-not-equal-1.1595258

[placnx]

18 hours ago, Thomas J said:

Irrelevant?  I guess if you don't mind not being granted entry into the country and consider that irrelevant.  Sinovac has not received marketing authorization.  It "may" but as of right now it does not. 

 

It will probably be a question of flight origin of the traveler. If a country is having Covid like India nowadays, then stricter criteria would be applied on the arriving passenger from there. People with weaker vaccinations than mRNA might be required to quarantine.

[Thomas J]

1 minute ago, placnx said:

t will probably be a question of flight origin of the traveler. If a country is having Covid like India nowadays, then stricter criteria would be applied on the arriving passenger from there. People with weaker vaccinations than mRNA might be required to quarantine.

 

The entire situation is a mess.  If a person travels would be be a question of flight origin or any stops they may have made.  So if the person had a flight from Germany but it stopped in New Delhi or Chennai do they then have a different set of rules.  

The point I was making originally was that right now Pfizer and Moderna have the highest rates of Covid effectiveness and are the most widely recognized.  Why would I take Sinnovac knowing that at least to date its effectiveness is questioned and there are fewer countries that recognize it. 

I think in the end, there will be some agreement among all of the countries as to what is required in terms of vaccinations and what vaccines are recognized.  Until then, it will be a "circle J**rk" with each region applying its own rules.  That would make a person who travel want to take the vaccine recognized in the countries they intend on traveling to.  Right now, I don't plan to go to China so I prefer to wait for Pfizer, Moderna, or Astra Zeneca rather than getting jabbed multiple times. 

[sandyf]

5 hours ago, Thomas J said:

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/when-it-comes-to-a-travel-restart-all-vaccines-are-not-equal-1.1595258

Why the difficulty in understanding that terms like "when", Likely", "maybe" etc, do not make something current fact, end of story. But feel free to keep on speculating.

 

[Thomas J]

43 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Why the difficulty in understanding that terms like "when", Likely", "maybe" etc, do not make something current fact, end of story. But feel free to keep on speculating.

Are you speculating on "when" "if" "maybe" Sinovac gets on the approved list of vaccines for Europe? 

[placnx]

5 hours ago, Thomas J said:

 

The entire situation is a mess.  If a person travels would be be a question of flight origin or any stops they may have made.  So if the person had a flight from Germany but it stopped in New Delhi or Chennai do they then have a different set of rules.  

The point I was making originally was that right now Pfizer and Moderna have the highest rates of Covid effectiveness and are the most widely recognized.  Why would I take Sinnovac knowing that at least to date its effectiveness is questioned and there are fewer countries that recognize it. 

I think in the end, there will be some agreement among all of the countries as to what is required in terms of vaccinations and what vaccines are recognized.  Until then, it will be a "circle J**rk" with each region applying its own rules.  That would make a person who travel want to take the vaccine recognized in the countries they intend on traveling to.  Right now, I don't plan to go to China so I prefer to wait for Pfizer, Moderna, or Astra Zeneca rather than getting jabbed multiple times. 

Moderna & Pfizer would be the obvious choices for most people if available.

 

In this world with a multiplicity of authorities it's inevitable that initially travel with Covid will be chaotic. EU is at least trying to have a solution for internal travel. Whether it catches on with UK, US, etc. is an open question.