Popular Post bankei Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 Does anyone know if Thailand will accept a 'certificate of recovery' from someone who had covid weeks ago but is still testing positive? I was heading back to Bangkok when my predeparture test came back positive and was unable to board the flight (and I had the 1 day test and go approval!)........ It seems after having covid you can still test positive for up to 6 weeks and I don't want to wait. I have tried to ask the Thai pass people with no response. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howerde Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Ubonjoe had a post a week or 2 ago showing Thailand does accept such a certificate sorry i cant find it, but the airline might insist on a negative test(thus not accept the certificate), you will need to speak to your airline 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chilly07 Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 The puzzle is that even if you have had Covid and been 3x vaxed you can still carry the virus and test positive. Best not to travel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kopitiam Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 Don't be selfish. When you are tested positive, you are still carrying the virus and spread to others on the plane. The airlines are doing the right thing to stop you from boarding. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kopitiam said: Don't be selfish. When you are tested positive, you are still carrying the virus and spread to others on the plane. The airlines are doing the right thing to stop you from boarding. Not true. The PCR test detects dead material left over from a previous infection.There is a whole thread dedicated to this subject. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopitiam Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Not true. The PCR test detects dead material left over from a previous infection.There is a whole thread dedicated to this subject. So, PCR test must state whether the virus is dead or alive. Or at least, all those who have recently recovered from covid must demand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kopitiam said: So, PCR test must state whether the virus is dead or alive. Or at least, all those who have recently recovered from covid must demand this. Good luck with 'must'..lol Sheryl gives a good explanation of the Phenomenon dead covid RNA etc on another thread I set up another thread about the practical implications of this problem Check em out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 hours ago, howerde said: Ubonjoe had a post a week or 2 ago showing Thailand does accept such a certificate sorry i cant find it, but the airline might insist on a negative test(thus not accept the certificate), you will need to speak to your airline He could still test positive on arrival in Thailand even if they accepted the recovery letter! Not a good thing. Especially as apparently Thailand has a more sensitive level to the PCR test. Anyhow, airlines will not accept . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopitiam Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Good luck with 'must'..lol Sheryl gives a good explanation of the Phenomenon dead covid RNA etc on another thread I set up another thread about the practical implications of this problem Check em out Same good luck to OP to explain his positive PCR results are dead virus material to the airlines. I would rather err on the safe side then to have my holidays spoilt by this ambiguity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I'm in country, post-Vaccine (x 3) post-Covid, and will avoid any official test points because I doubt if they would consider me safe and I do not want hospital again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Emirates will take you after 14 days from the first positive. also thai international after 14, but more likely longer, depending on their local guru. they might do antibody test at BKK, some 3k. in some cases you are let to go to AQ without antibody. you can do antibody before departure. To speed up process and lower costs. I would also take pcr test at transferring dubai at $50, results in 20 minutes. Lab is between terminal b and c Edited January 7, 2022 by internationalism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 hours ago, bankei said: It seems after having covid you can still test positive for up to 6 weeks Google "Long haul COVID" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said: Google "Long haul COVID" Not the same at all. Long Covid a terribly debilitating illness that can last months and even a year or more for some unlucky people. Awful. The op is recovered from Covid and is not suffering from Long Covid. But might test positive, or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoonclub Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: Not true. The PCR test detects dead material left over from a previous infection.There is a whole thread dedicated to this subject. So how you guarantee the test reacted to dead DNA or not? Exactly, you can’t. Therefore: The OP should self-isolate until he tests negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoonclub Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Kopitiam said: So, PCR test must state whether the virus is dead or alive. Or at least, all those who have recently recovered from covid must demand this. Such kind of test does not exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, geisha said: Not the same at all. Long Covid a terribly debilitating illness that can last months and even a year or more for some unlucky people. Awful. The op is recovered from Covid and is not suffering from Long Covid. But might test positive, or not. All you state is true. However, it is also true that, in very rare cases (generally in immunocompromised individuals) the virus can remain active in small quantities indefinitely, and actually becomes a potential source of dangerous new variants. That is not an argument to treat all post acute Covid positive tests as evidence of continuing infection. In the vast majority of cases, the positive test just indicates the presence of dead virus fragments. However, the development of a simple and reliable test that could identify the rare silent latent infections is highly desirable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Kopitiam said: Don't be selfish. When you are tested positive, you are still carrying the virus and spread to others on the plane. The airlines are doing the right thing to stop you from boarding. I've seen people test + on ATK tests and then full PCR's show negative, numerous times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankei Posted January 8, 2022 Author Share Posted January 8, 2022 My medical advice is that I am no longer infectious now. Isolated for 10 days and am out roaming about as are hundreds of thousands of others out there. I think I will have to keep getting tested and just wait until I return a negative which should be within the next month or so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapcanuck Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 If you're testing positive then you are a spreader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, cheapcanuck said: If you're testing positive then you are a spreader. Unless you've HAD Covid, then the dead remnants in your system can still show positive on the test. But you're safe to be around. it's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopitiam Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 8 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said: I've seen people test + on ATK tests and then full PCR's show negative, numerous times. So the moral of the story is, test until you get the result you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopitiam Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, DefaultName said: Unless you've HAD Covid, then the dead remnants in your system can still show positive on the test. But you're safe to be around. it's dead. What test do you take to confirm that after you HAD Covid you are safe to move around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Kopitiam said: What test do you take to confirm that after you HAD Covid you are safe to move around? I was in hospital, they cleared me and gave me papers, didn't ask the test, but it was blood, not nose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandPapillon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 well, as stated before, the vaccination never stopped you from being infected or even stop the spread of the virus, at best it will slow it down vaccination failed if we have to go back to the old stupid measures like tests, lockdowns etc... the future is treatment, and the labs knew this from the start, hence why they are starting to release those new remedies for covid. Stupid governments, being lazy as usual, just want the vaccination, because it's easy and a no-brainer. The issue is a little bit more complex. This is not as simple as a terrorist attack or 911 where you can suspend all citizens rights with a spectacular event. Covid is the best thing that could happen for authoritarian regimes. And I suspect that some western democracies will fall into authoritarian ruling after covid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, Kopitiam said: So the moral of the story is, test until you get the result you want? To each their own, i only test when i travel coz it's a requirement. If i got symptoms i would not bother to test just isolate for 10 - 14 days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 5:02 PM, Kopitiam said: So, PCR test must state whether the virus is dead or alive. Or at least, all those who have recently recovered from covid must demand this. It is impossible for a PCR test to state this. PCR only detects the existence of viral genetic material. That is all it can do. I believe the exception re proof of recent recovery from COVID was in lieu of proof of vaccination, not in lieu of a negative COVID test. I doubt you can get in without the latter. OP even if you could get permission to enter -- or if you, for example, test negative now, as you might -- you would almost surely have problems while in mandatory quarantine if you test positive. You really do not want to push this particular envelope in Thailand at this time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankei Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 Here is an update. A few days after I last posted above I did a another test and it came back negative so I jumped on a plane and flew into thailand. Did one day quarantine and tested negative and have been released into society without any issues. So basically I tested positive about a week after being told I no longer had to isolate and that I was no longer infectious and then managed to test negative about 10 days later. All up probably 3 weeks after first being diagnosed with covid I was testing negative. Thanks for all the replies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, bankei said: Here is an update. A few days after I last posted above I did a another test and it came back negative so I jumped on a plane and flew into thailand. Did one day quarantine and tested negative and have been released into society without any issues. So basically I tested positive about a week after being told I no longer had to isolate and that I was no longer infectious and then managed to test negative about 10 days later. All up probably 3 weeks after first being diagnosed with covid I was testing negative. Thanks for all the replies. you can travel after 14 days from the first positive. No need to wait for negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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