Tabien Baans registrations. What happens at sale of property?

[JeffersLos]

Selling a property that 2 Thais are registered in the blue tabien baan, and 1 foreigner is registered in the yellow tabien baan for the property.

 

When the property is transferred to a new owner at the land office, what happens to these people's registrations? 

 

The land office takes the tabien baans? 

 

Are they immediately cancelled and the Thais become unregistered?

 

Are they given a specific amount of time to register at another address? 1 week, 1 month, 1 year?

 

Nothing at all happens and they all continue to be registered in the property's tabien baans even though there is a new owner and they don't live there any more?

 

What happens in this regard?

 

TIA. 

[blackcab]

33 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Nothing at all happens and they all continue to be registered in the property's tabien baans even though there is a new owner and they don't live there any more?

 

The house registration is nothing to do with the Land Office.

 

What usually happens is that immediately after the sale at the Land Office the buyer and seller proceed to the District Office and empty the Blue and Yellow books.

 

At that point the seller needs to know which blue book they are moving into and have things in order. The same for the yellow book holder.

 

If this process isn't done the seller and everyone else will remain in the blue/yellow books of the property that has been sold, however the new owner can apply to have everyone removed from the house books at any time.

[JeffersLos]

1 minute ago, blackcab said:

 

The house registration is nothing to do with the Land Office.

 

What usually happens is that immediately after the sale at the Land Office the buyer and seller proceed to the District Office and empty the Blue and Yellow books.

 

At that point the seller needs to know which blue book they are moving into and have things in order. The same for the yellow book holder.

 

If this process isn't done the seller and everyone else will remain in the blue/yellow books of the property that has been sold, however the new owner can apply to have everyone removed from the house books at any time.

Thanks for the information. The new owner is non-Thai, from an ASEAN country. I suspect they know very little about the tabien baan system. 

[DrJoy]

2 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

The new owner is non-Thai

He/she can enter in the Blue Tabien Baan only if he/she holds a Thai PR card.

[blackcab]

2 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Thanks for the information. The new owner is non-Thai, from an ASEAN country. I suspect they know very little about the tabien baan system. 

 

If the buyer doesn't have a 13 digit number to be entered into the yellow book then there is no need for them to attend the District Office.

 

The seller and other people listed in the house books can attend the District Office to make the changes and then give the empty books back to the buyer.

[JeffersLos]

3 minutes ago, blackcab said:

The seller and other people listed in the house books can attend the District Office to make the changes and then give the empty books back to the buyer.

The Thais are not from the province, and don't have family in the province. 

[blackcab]

Why would that matter? The seller will in all likelihood be present on the day and can arrange everything for the other people in the house books. It's really not difficult and thousands of Thai people do this on a daily basis.

 

Just check with the District Office what documents they need for the seller to act for the other people listed in the house books.

[JeffersLos]

19 minutes ago, blackcab said:

Why would that matter?

In case the officer or the buyer at the point of sale wants them off the tabien baan before the sale goes through, or it affects the sale somehow. Staying registered in the province is also important for the child's school registration etc. 

[blackcab]

36 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

In case the officer or the buyer at the point of sale wants them off the tabien baan before the sale goes through, or it affects the sale somehow.

 

The Land Office are not remotely interested in house books. You do not need to present them to sell property. There is no requirement from the land office to do anything at all with the house books.

 

Normally the seller will not remove themselves from the house books before a sale, just in case the sale does not happen. There is nothing stopping the seller doing this in advance though if they so choose.

 

36 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Staying registered in the province is also important for the child's school registration etc. 

 

This is a matter for the seller. They need to be proactive and find a house book to move into. Otherwise if they try and stay on the tabien baan of the house they have sold, they will eventually find themselves removed without their consent, and you can almost guarantee this will happen at an inconvenient time.

[JeffersLos]

25 minutes ago, blackcab said:

The Land Office are not remotely interested in house books. You do not need to present them to sell property. There is no requirement from the land office to do anything at all with the house books.

 

Normally the seller will not remove themselves from the house books before a sale, just in case the sale does not happen. There is nothing stopping the seller doing this in advance though if they so choose.

Thanks for the info.

 

I was presented with the blue house book at the land office when I bought the property, along with the chanote etc.

 

The new owner will surely take it at the land office at the point of sale.