djtheoz Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Hi all! Looking for a primer, or another proper Thai solution , to prep a ready tiled floor for installing a new tile layer on top of the old tiles. Something like MAPEI Eco Prim Grip or similar. Current floor was installed properly, flat, level and decent, but the tile layout is absolutely hideous... Take out the existing floor tiles first, and start from scratch seems a lot more work. I've looked at Thaiwatsadu, Homepro, DoHome, Homesukkapan and Global House but couldn't quite find something suitable. Any recommendations what and where to look for ? Thanks in advance for tips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRYDEa-pDM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtheoz Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XRRYDEa-pDM :) Watched a lot of his videos already, and yes.. that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, djtheoz said: ???? Watched a lot of his videos already, and yes.. that stuff. 2 minutes ago, djtheoz said: ???? Watched a lot of his videos already, and yes.. that stuff. Lazada has has tile primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtheoz Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Lazada has has tile primers. Not much found, I've noticed the Nippon Tile Primer at Thaiwatsadu and Lazada, but this seems more a primer to paint over? Or would this also be suitable to bond a cement based adhesive for tiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) This was used for tile on tile in our bathroom. https://www.jorakay.co.th/en/tiling/tile-adhesive/silver-crocodile-tile-adhesive As far as I know, no primer was used. No issues 4 years later. Edit to add: Seem to recall that they scored the old tiles, using an angle grinder, before laying the new ones. Edited July 11, 2023 by chickenslegs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Don't do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtheoz Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, chickenslegs said: This was used for tile on tile in our bathroom. https://www.jorakay.co.th/en/tiling/tile-adhesive/silver-crocodile-tile-adhesive As far as I know, no primer was used. No issues 4 years later. Edit to add: Seem to recall that they scored the old tiles, using an angle grinder, before laying the new ones. Product specs look promising, thank you very much for the tip. Prepping the old tiles with the angle grinder I prefer to avoid for not getting so much dust, but well, a man can not have everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, djtheoz said: Product specs look promising, thank you very much for the tip. Prepping the old tiles with the angle grinder I prefer to avoid for not getting so much dust, but well, a man can not have everything... Are you doing it yourself? How many doors will you have to trim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtheoz Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 3:28 PM, Yellowtail said: Are you doing it yourself? How many doors will you have to trim? One teak wood door. And yes will do most of it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, djtheoz said: One teak wood door. And yes will do most of it myself. Go 4 it....???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poobear Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I have tiled over glossy floor tiles with the Gold Crocodile Cement made for that purpose. I did not use any sort of primer and never had one problem or issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaideedave Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, poobear said: I have tiled over glossy floor tiles with the Gold Crocodile Cement made for that purpose. I did not use any sort of primer and never had one problem or issues. Ditto,I hired a local tiler and I didn't actually get too deep into it but he did an excellent job and I get many compliments on the work. Over 10 years ago zero issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Depends on the area, but just cross hatch the original tiles, with a grinder (Diamond blade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted Monday at 01:01 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:01 AM (edited) about to do the same, any update for finding a tile primer here? Ive done it angle grinding the walls and using Weber Tai flex https://www.th.weber/en/webertai-flex Used it in a shower floor without problem but would still prefer a primer . Australia use sika NPP..............which isnt available in Thailand!! Also seen this which is suitable but again no primer https://www.beger.co.th/en/product/304/Beger-Cement-Tile-Bond-Premium-T-300 Edited Monday at 01:03 AM by Rampant Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted Monday at 01:12 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:12 AM I want to retile a bathroom top to bottom. I just figured on taking out the old tile first was the only option. Am I wrong????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted Monday at 01:56 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:56 AM 41 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: I want to retile a bathroom top to bottom. I just figured on taking out the old tile first was the only option. Am I wrong????? If the tiles are well stuck down you dont need to remove them, tap them to see if they sound hollow as many Thai tilers are crap hollow ones need to be removed, Ive just found this primer made by Davco and available in Thailand for non porous tiles ie shiny ones https://aus.sika.com/en/construction/tile-stone-installationsystems/primers-additives/davco-ultrabond.html This is the Australian site but you can buy it in Thailand here https://www.pbtechno.co.th/product/davco-ultrabond/ Failing that run an angle grinder over the tiles if they are glossy at a shallow angle ie not the usual vertical position, make sure you clean the tiles down really well, you dont want ANY dust at all. After youve cleaned the walls wet ypour finger tips, run them over the walls, if you get dust on them they arent clean enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted Monday at 02:12 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:12 AM Keep in mind, you'll need to trim your doors and trim and whatnot. Unless I were doing it myself, and was certain the existing were sound, I would not consider it. You can always hit it with a grinder to knock the glaze off and just go with thin-set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted Monday at 03:01 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:01 AM 47 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Keep in mind, you'll need to trim your doors and trim and whatnot. Unless I were doing it myself, and was certain the existing were sound, I would not consider it. You can always hit it with a grinder to knock the glaze off and just go with thin-set. you can use this without primer https://www.th.weber/en/webertai-flex including in shower areas etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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