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Trump challenged by Zelensky to come to Ukraine after claims he could stop war in a day


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12 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

 

You do understand that your boy _rump is not in charge of anything in the US at the moment?

Or do you think he actually won in 2020 and is controlling the US government secretly from a golf course in Florida

Tell that to Zelensky then.

 

Try comprehending the OP before making fatuous remarks.

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18 hours ago, heybruce said:

How will Trump package this as anything other than the US surrendering to Russia?

 

He'd package it a "stopping the killing and preserving the rest of Ukraine".

 

Putin gets the 4 Oblasts and Crimea, which he already has.  The residents of the 4 Oblasts and Crimea will get the leadership they actually voted for, (even if the methods and results were questionable).

 

Ukraine gets entry into NATO, which is an absolute guarantee against further Russian aggression.  Instead of sending $$billions for bombs, the West will send even more $$billions to rebuild, and that political hot potato goes away for every politician whose constituents question the wisdom of sponsoring a forever war.

 

Oh, and Trump gets to blame the "L" on the other guys, because Putin took Crimea under Obama and the 4 Oblasts under Biden.  Crickets under Trump's watch...

 

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

He'd package it a "stopping the killing and preserving the rest of Ukraine".

 

Putin gets the 4 Oblasts and Crimea, which he already has.  The residents of the 4 Oblasts and Crimea will get the leadership they actually voted for, (even if the methods and results were questionable).

 

Ukraine gets entry into NATO, which is an absolute guarantee against further Russian aggression.  Instead of sending $$billions for bombs, the West will send even more $$billions to rebuild, and that political hot potato goes away for every politician whose constituents question the wisdom of sponsoring a forever war.

 

Oh, and Trump gets to blame the "L" on the other guys, because Putin took Crimea under Obama and the 4 Oblasts under Biden.  Crickets under Trump's watch...

 

I'm not in full agreement, but I concede that your provision that Urkaine be guaranteed NATO membership makes the overall proposal worth considering.  However that is a decision and negotiation for the Ukrainian people.

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On 11/6/2023 at 7:36 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump doesn't need to go to Ukraine to stop the war. Simply stopping all military supplies would be an end to it.

He could simply tell Zelensky that if he didn't negotiate with Russia that the bullets and shells would stop. War over.

You don’t have to worry about your hero going to Ukraine it’s a war zone trump is a New York City trust fund baby and a coward he would never expose himself to any possible danger to himself 

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