Health Care for Thai's

[bondjames007]

When Thai's need Healthcare treatment and they live in a different province from their hometown,  can they get free treatment, can register in another province  (Like we can do in the West) ?  or is treatment

only free if they go back to their hometown where they are registered ?

 

Reason for the question,  is that I speaking to a friend who got Denge Fever,  Hospitalised for two weeks,  away from Hometown and used all her savings to pay for the treatment because she was not living in her Hometown.

 

What if have major operation,  have kids that need treatment,  or even have an accident ?  for us expats,  most of us have private insurance to cover our treatment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sheryl]

Thais need to receive care in the hospital which covers the area where they are listed  in a tabian ban. This registration can be changed if someone moves elsewhere but often Thais do not bother.

 

In case of an emergency when out of town  care can be received at another government hospital. However cashier has no way of knowing if it was an emergency so will ask for payment. Often necessary to call the NHSO hotline to straighten it out. 

 

In theory emergency care can also be received if necessary at private hospitals for up to 72 hours but that system is not well enforced. 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, bondjames007 said:

When Thai's need Healthcare treatment and they live in a different province from their hometown,  can they get free treatment, can register in another province  (Like we can do in the West) ?  or is treatment

only free if they go back to their hometown where they are registered ?

 

Reason for the question,  is that I speaking to a friend who got Denge Fever,  Hospitalised for two weeks,  away from Hometown and used all her savings to pay for the treatment because she was not living in her Hometown.

 

What if have major operation,  have kids that need treatment,  or even have an accident ?  for us expats,  most of us have private insurance to cover our treatment.

 

Is the Dengue Fever so bad that she can't move or be transferred to a hospital where she is covered?

Is it possible that she is using this to convince someone else to give her money?

[bondjames007]

12 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Is the Dengue Fever so bad that she can't move or be transferred to a hospital where she is covered?

Is it possible that she is using this to convince someone else to give her money?

Hometown far away apparently so stayed where she was and paid the bill.  

[Wrwest]

16 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Thais need to receive care in the hospital which covers the area where they are listed  in a tabian ban. This registration can be changed if someone moves elsewhere but often Thais do not bother.

 

In case of an emergency when out of town  care can be received at another government hospital. However cashier has no way of knowing if it was an emergency so will ask for payment. Often necessary to call the NHSO hotline to straighten it out. 

 

In theory emergency care can also be received if necessary at private hospitals for up to 72 hours but that system is not well enforced. 

Sheryl, I thought it had been announced a new policy that they were allowing Thais to receive healthcare throughout the country. I just ask the question.

[Sheryl]

34 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Sheryl, I thought it had been announced a new policy that they were allowing Thais to receive healthcare throughout the country. I just ask the question.

There has been talk of this but not yet implemented, at least not at hospital level. I think in some places maybe in effect for primary levrl if care (health centers). 

 

It is logistically very difficult to do for hosputals  because the budget allocation to each hospital is  based on the numbers living in its catchment srea.

 

And  the most in demand hospitals are already thoroughly swamped with patients and this would get worse.

 

 

[Wrwest]

4 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

There has been talk of this but not yet implemented, at least not at hospital level. I think in some places maybe in effect for primary levrl if care (health centers). 

 

It is logistically very difficult to do for hosputals  because the budget allocation to each hospital is  based on the numbers living in its catchment srea.

 

And  the most in demand hospitals are already thoroughly swamped with patients and this would get worse.

 

 

Thanks, Sheryl. Wife and Stepdaughter changed their registration to San Sai from Changchoensao years ago. We just moved from San Sai to Saraphi so …

[Andycoops]

18 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Thais need to receive care in the hospital which covers the area where they are listed  in a tabian ban. This registration can be changed if someone moves elsewhere but often Thais do not bother.

 

In case of an emergency when out of town  care can be received at another government hospital. However cashier has no way of knowing if it was an emergency so will ask for payment. Often necessary to call the NHSO hotline to straighten it out. 

 

In theory emergency care can also be received if necessary at private hospitals for up to 72 hours but that system is not well enforced. 

Is it the case that many Thais do not change their registration because this also affects their vote in a election and they prefer to cast their vote in their home village/town?

 

A bit off topic I know but in my village it trebles or more in size when elections held.

[Sheryl]

2 minutes ago, Andycoops said:

Is it the case that many Thais do not change their registration because this also affects their vote in a election and they prefer to cast their vote in their home village/town?

 

A bit off topic I know but in my village it trebles or more in size when elections held.

 

I don't think that has anything to do with it.

 

Dislike of dealing with officialdom (understandable) is the main reason. And maybe for some, not knowing how/what is required.

[brianthainess]

20 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Thais need to receive care in the hospital which covers the area where they are listed  in a tabian ban. This registration can be changed if someone moves elsewhere but often Thais do not bother.

I thought there had been recent change, that Thais can now use any Govt, hospital. 

[PoorSucker]

2 hours ago, Andycoops said:

Is it the case that many Thais do not change their registration because this also affects their vote in a election and they prefer to cast their vote in their home village/town?

You need to find someone that have a Thabien Bahn and is willing to register them in their book

[Paris333]

Thailand is gaining worldwide recognition for the quality of its healthcare services after the US magazine CEOWORLD placed Thailand sixth in its 2019 list of countries with the best health care systems.

Source:

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1746289/thailands-healthcare-ranked-sixth-best-in-the-world

 

UK NHS at 18 months waiting list for treatment😠

New figures from N.H.S England show that the waiting list for routine hospital treatment in England has fallen for the second consecutive month, from 7.71 million in October to an estimated 7.61 million in November.
The statistics - which relate to the period before the latest round of junior doctors' strikes - also show that many other key NHS targets are being missed, including cancer, ambulance delivery and the number of patients waiting more than 18 months for treatment .
Source.
NHS waiting list even higher than before Rishi Sunak pledge
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/accident-emergency-waits-nhs-england-b2476902.html

 

Germany r.e.c.r.u.i.t.s nurses from.....Brazil (May 20, 2023, sueddeutsche.de site)

 

 

 

[Paris333]

The World's Best Hospitals 2023 also includes new hospital quality metrics, most notably data from the Israeli National Program for Quality Indicators (INPQ) for Israel and the Danish Clinical Quality Program for Denmark. And we have added new accreditations for Thailand and Taiwan to the scoring model

 

1 Bumrungrad International Hospital score 93.00% Bangkok
2 Siriraj Piyamaharajkarun Hospital score 88.16% Bangkok
3 Bangkok Hospital 86.57% score Bangkok
4 Samitivej Sukhumvit Hospital score 76.25% Bangkok
5 Ramathibodi Hospital 75.33% score Bangkok
6 Thonburi Hospital 74.42% score Bangkok
7 King Chulalongkorn Memorial Hospital score 74.41% Bangkok
8 BPK 9 International Hospital score 74.06% Bangkok
9 MedPark Hospital score 73.99% Bangkok
10 Praram 9 Hospital score 73.46% Bangkok
11 Vajira Hospital score 73.40% Bangkok
12 Ramkhamhaeng Hospital score 73.25% Bangkok
13 Rajavithi Hospital 73.23% score Bangkok
14 Phyathai 1 Hospital score 73.21% Bangkok
15 Bangkok International Hospital score 72.76% Bangkok
16 Bangkok Christian Hospital score 72.50% Bangkok
17 Yanhee Hospital score 72.46% Bangkok
18 Songklanagarind Hospital score 72.27% Songkhla
19 Maharaj Nakorn Chiang Mai Hospital score 72.22% Chiang Mai
20 Samitivej Srinakarin Hospital score 72.17% Bangkok
21 Srinagarind Hospital score 72.10% Khon Kaen
22 Buddhachinaraj Phitsanulok Hospital score 72.09% Phitsanulok
23 Phyathai 2 Hospital score 71.94% Bangkok
24 CGH Hospital Phaholyothin score 71.09% Bangkok
25 Saint Louis Hospital score 71.08% Bangkok
26 Songkhla Hospital score score 71.04% Songkhla
27 Phramongkutklao Hospital score 70.69% Bangkok
28 Bangkok Hatyai Hospital score 70.37% Songkhla
29 Pitsanuvej Hospital score 70.36% Phitsanulok
30 Chakri Naruebodindra Medical Institute score 70.00% Samut Prakan

Source:

World's Best Hospitals 2023

https://www.newsweek.com/rankings/worlds-best-hospitals-2023/thailand

[Paris333]

After corona period came out the Global Rating of 250 Hospitals for the year 2024 where Bangkok Bumrungrad International Hospital is in 130 position globally.

Each hospital's score is based on an online survey of more than 85,000 medical experts and public data from post-hospitalization patient surveys on their general satisfaction.
Source:

World's Best Hospitals 2024

https://www.newsweek.com/rankings/worlds-best-hospitals-2024

[PPMMUU]

Changing the primary health service spot is actually easy and has little to do with tabien ban and voting rights. Tabien ban is just one way of obtaining health service rights in the area, but there are several other ways, such as having a telephone bill with their name and so forth. Additionally, one can change service spots several times in a year. There is very little reason not to do so. However, many Thais are unaware of this.