Now another member of the extremist right-wing warmongers in Israel is calling for yet another attack, only this time on the West Bank and a continued attack on Lebanon. Will the warmongering ever end, and will it ever accomplish anything that Israel is actually setting out to do?

Israel has already made itself into one of the world's greatest Pariah States, and one of the most despised nations in the world. They have made it very difficult to be Jewish these days, as I'm having to continually defend myself and state that I am anti-Israel due to the Israeli genocide, and the incredibly deplorable behavior of the government, the ultra Zionists, and the homicidal settlers. Having said that in no way shape or form am I anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic as some simple-minded folks would claim.

And yet people keep asking why does America continue to support this extremist regime? Extensive lobbying and a great fear of opposition and of course the ever-ready and incredibly lame reply of being anti-Semitic, is the only reasonable answer that I can come up with.

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich calls on Israel to “go to war” in the West Bank and “do there what we did in Gaza,” and repeats his call to dismantle the Palestinian Authority, which governs West Bank Palestinian population centers. He also calls on Israel to annex southern Lebanon and the territory the IDF holds in Gaza.

The chair of the far- right Religious Zionism party makes the remarks to a podcast on the Ynet outlet when asked how Israel should combat the rising security tensions in the West Bank, where there have been multiple attacks on Israelis as well as near-daily settler violence and harassment.

I certainly have solutions” to the situation in the West Bank, he says. “I think we need to go to war in Judea and Samaria, to do there what we did in Gaza, to dismantle the Palestinian Authority, which is a terror authority.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-calls-on-israel-to-annex-southern-lebanon-most-of-gaza/

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by spidermike007

yes they can be stopped, as soon as Trump is impeached the money and the armament will stop flowing they will be in trouble

24 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

yes they can be stopped, as soon as Trump is impeached the money and the armament will stop flowing they will be in trouble

Unfortunately it’s not that easy.

AIPAC have representatives on both sides of the house in their pocket.

Too many elected representatives on both sides of the house are not representing the views of their voters.

On the upside the political discourse has moved significantly in the past two years, Americans are now openly criticizing Israel’s crimes and questioning why their tax dollars are being used to pay for those crimes.

The cat is out of the bag.

29 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

yes they can be stopped, as soon as Trump is impeached the money and the armament will stop flowing they will be in trouble

The USAs military aid to Israeli is about 2 % of Israel's GDP.

Israel is currently looking at ways to replace the USAs financial input .

It would be no more than a slight inconvenience for Israel

NO, you're all powerless

So whine all you like online.

It is Written

A Jew who says he is anti Israel is like a Muslim who says he is anti-mecca.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

They have made it very difficult to be Jewish these days, as I'm having to continually defend myself and state that I am anti-Israel due to the Israeli genocide

Why don't to just convert to another Religion and you will no longer be Jewish .

You don't want to be Jewish , so just convert to Buddhism or Rastafarian or something , then you will no longer have to even speak about it .

Like, to convert to Rastafarian , all you need to do is smoke weed and grow dreadlocks .

You can go and do that now .

What's stopping you ?

No Jew anywhere in the world should feel obligated to announce they are anti Israel in a pathetic attempt to portray themselves as one of the good ones.

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why don't to just convert to another Religion and you will no longer be Jewish .

You don't want to be Jewish , so just convert to Buddhism or Rastafarian or something , then you will no longer have to even speak about it .

Like, to convert to Rastafarian , all you need to do is smoke weed and grow dreadlocks .

You can go and do that now .

What's stopping you ?

I reckon he's about as Jewish as my Aunt Fanny was Bolivian.

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The USAs military aid to Israeli is about 2 % of Israel's GDP.

Israel is currently looking at ways to replace the USAs financial input .

It would be no more than a slight inconvenience for Israel

It's not financial, it's weaponry. Without military aid from the USA, Israel would not have lasted that long.

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No Jew anywhere in the world should feel obligated to announce they are anti Israel in a pathetic attempt to portray themselves as one of the good ones.

They aren't obligated, but they do anyway. as perhaps they really are the good ones.

29 minutes ago, PhilipHabib said:

NO, you're all powerless

So whine all you like online.

It is Written

He's got my vote, praying he can do a part time job in Dover, Bibi' for the Nobel peace prize'

1 minute ago, Storkit said:

They aren't obligated, but they do anyway. as perhaps they really are the good ones.

Say anti Netanyahu.

Say anti Israeli governnent.

Saying anti Israel is self hatred.

The Jewish people are indiginous to Israel.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Jingthing

2 minutes ago, Storkit said:

It's not financial, it's weaponry. Without military aid from the USA, Israel would not have lasted that long.

Israel EXPORTS $20 Billion worth of arms a year , arms that Israel makes and sells .

USA provides Israel with about US$ 4 Billion year in military aid

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The Jewish people are indiginous to Israel.

No, not all of them.

Some of them are indigenous to Eastern Europe.

Like the Ashkenazis, I think.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by save the frogs

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

No, not all of them.

Some of them are indigenous to Eastern Europe.

Like the Ashkenazis, I think.

Jesus was a Jew , 'nuff said.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Say anti Netanyahu.

Say anti Israeli governnent.

Saying anti Israel is self hatred.

The Jewish people are indiginous to Israel.

Murderous jews included

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Israel EXPORTS $20 Billion worth of arms a year , arms that Israel makes and sells .

USA provides Israel with about US$ 4 Billion year in military aid

So why did the USA have to rush arms there during the conflict? It's not money, it's military aid.

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A Jew who says he is anti Israel is like a Muslim who says he is anti-mecca.

But they are out there. Many American Jews are aghast at Israel's behavior on the world stage. I'm sure I'll hear, "Prove it."
Then just use your local AI to compile a list of American Jews who are critical of Israeli domestic and foreign policy as in this Grok query:
"List American Jews who are critical of Israel?"

Bernie Sanders — U.S. senator from Vermont. Supports Israel’s existence; has long criticized the occupation and pushed conditions on U.S. military aid over Gaza and civilian harm.

Chuck Schumer — Senate Democratic leader. Supports Israel; publicly called for new Israeli elections and criticized Benjamin Netanyahu.

Jerry Nadler — New York congressman. Pro-Israel Democrat who has criticized aspects of the Gaza war and far-left anti-Zionist groups.

Becca Balint — Vermont congresswoman. Has backed limits on arms sales and used very harsh language about Israel’s Gaza campaign.

Brad Lander — New York politician. Jewish progressive who has criticized Israel’s conduct in Gaza more sharply than many establishment Democrats.

Jamie Raskin — Maryland congressman. Liberal Zionist who has criticized Netanyahu and aspects of the war while supporting Israel’s security.

Russ Feingold — Former Wisconsin senator. Signed letters by liberal Jewish leaders criticizing Israel’s hard-right government.

Peter Beinart — Journalist and author. Former liberal Zionist; now a leading Jewish critic of Israeli state policy and of the Gaza war.

Thomas Friedman — New York Times columnist. Supports Israel’s existence; repeatedly attacks Netanyahu, settlements, and damage to Israeli democracy.

Katie Halper — Journalist and podcaster. Has called Israel an apartheid state; left mainstream TV after that stance.

Max Blumenthal — Anti-Zionist journalist (The Grayzone). Accuses Israel of systematic crimes; far outside mainstream Jewish opinion.

Naomi Klein — Author and activist. Critic of Israeli policy and of using antisemitism charges to shield that policy.

Joshua Leifer — Writer associated with Jewish Currents. Critic of occupation and of Israel’s Gaza war from the Jewish left.

Jill Jacobs — Rabbi; heads T’ruah. Supports a two-state approach; has condemned starvation tactics and mass civilian harm in Gaza.

Sharon Brous — Prominent Los Angeles rabbi. Liberal Zionist who has publicly criticized Israel’s conduct in the war.

Amichai Lau-Lavie — Rabbi and educator. Liberal critic of Israeli government policy from within Jewish religious life.

Jeremy Ben-Ami — President of J Street (“pro-Israel, pro-peace”). Critic of occupation; later said courts may find Israel violated the Genocide Convention.

Simone Zimmerman — IfNotNow co-founder; briefly Bernie Sanders’s Jewish outreach lead. Opposes occupation and unconditional U.S. backing.

Max Berger — IfNotNow co-founder. Progressive organizer focused on ending occupation and changing U.S. Jewish institutional support for it.

Tony Kushner — Playwright. Long-time critic of the occupation and of U.S. policy toward Israel-Palestine.

Noam Chomsky — Linguist and political writer. Decades of anti-occupation / anti-Zionist criticism of Israel and of U.S. support for it.

Ilana Glazer — Comedian and actress. Signed public letters calling for international pressure and sanctions on Israel.

Hannah Einbinder — Actress. Same: signed high-profile Jewish letters demanding sanctions and accountability over Gaza.

Dovid Feldman — Anti-Zionist Orthodox rabbi in the Neturei Karta stream. Opposes the State of Israel on religious grounds.

Dovid Weiss — Same stream; public anti-Zionist Orthodox figure in New York. A small minority view within Orthodoxy.

2 minutes ago, Storkit said:

So why did the USA have to rush arms there during the conflict? It's not money, it's military aid.

Because Israel used all their bombs up unexpectedly in a short space of time and needed them replaced quick

Just now, Storkit said:

So why did the USA have to rush arms there during the conflict? It's not money, it's military aid.

Such as 40,000 2000 lbs bombs capable of taking down entire high-rise apartment complexes and high-rise buildings housing corporations, businesses, and institutions.
Imho? With this recent contract, Israel can make Southern Beirut look like Gaza, and Gaza look like Hiroshima.
The use of this ordinance is inhuman and will be used to flatten cities and suburbs, like Gaza and Southern Beirut, which is the definition of "war crime" like it or not.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-908724z

According to a Grok query: "Who is paying for these bombs?" Grok reply:

"U.S. taxpayers, almost entirely.

The $2.8 billion package is structured as a “sale,” but reporting says most of it is paid through Foreign Military Financing (FMF): Washington grants Israel money that Israel then spends on U.S.-made weapons. Israel is not writing a check for the bulk of it.

That is the usual pipeline for U.S. munitions to Israel, not a one-off for this deal. Congress appropriates the FMF; the Pentagon and State Department run the transfer; U.S. manufacturers get paid with that grant money."

41 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No Jew anywhere in the world should feel obligated to announce they are anti Israel in a pathetic attempt to portray themselves as one of the good ones.

And:

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

A Jew who says he is anti Israel is like a Muslim who says he is anti-mecca.

Maybe let Jews speak for themselves and you don’t like what they have to say, tough!

46 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Why don't to just convert to another Religion and you will no longer be Jewish .

You don't want to be Jewish , so just convert to Buddhism or Rastafarian or something , then you will no longer have to even speak about it .

Like, to convert to Rastafarian , all you need to do is smoke weed and grow dreadlocks .

You can go and do that now .

What's stopping you ?

Oh. So he doesn’t want to be what you think a Jew should be.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

^ Advertisement for the Israeli weapons industry ?

Our bombs work :)

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Now another member of the extremist right-wing warmongers in Israel is calling for yet another attack, only this time on the West Bank and a continued attack on Lebanon. Will the warmongering ever end, and will it ever accomplish anything that Israel is actually setting out to do?

Israel has already made itself into one of the world's greatest Pariah States, and one of the most despised nations in the world. They have made it very difficult to be Jewish these days, as I'm having to continually defend myself and state that I am anti-Israel due to the Israeli genocide, and the incredibly deplorable behavior of the government, the ultra Zionists, and the homicidal settlers. Having said that in no way shape or form am I anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic as some simple-minded folks would claim.

And yet people keep asking why does America continue to support this extremist regime? Extensive lobbying and a great fear of opposition and of course the ever-ready and incredibly lame reply of being anti-Semitic, is the only reasonable answer that I can come up with.

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich calls on Israel to “go to war” in the West Bank and “do there what we did in Gaza,” and repeats his call to dismantle the Palestinian Authority, which governs West Bank Palestinian population centers. He also calls on Israel to annex southern Lebanon and the territory the IDF holds in Gaza.

The chair of the far- right Religious Zionism party makes the remarks to a podcast on the Ynet outlet when asked how Israel should combat the rising security tensions in the West Bank, where there have been multiple attacks on Israelis as well as near-daily settler violence and harassment.

I certainly have solutions” to the situation in the West Bank, he says. “I think we need to go to war in Judea and Samaria, to do there what we did in Gaza, to dismantle the Palestinian Authority, which is a terror authority.”

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-calls-on-israel-to-annex-southern-lebanon-most-of-gaza/

Sadly, this has gone on for over a century now, ever since the Zionists were given a chance by the British with the Balfour Declaration, the problem is Zionism, it bit the British in the posterior in the beginning of the 20th century, right up until the end of the 2nd World War when they cried enough.

Then the U.S. took up the baton, so to speak, and with Truman's blessing 11 minutes after the declaration of independence, the die was cast. To my mind the Jewish influence in U.S. politics is so huge it will be difficult to stop. That influence has spread since that time right across the World in the political arena, of many Countries but in the last 3 years, with the onset of Social Media there has been a glimmer of hope the the general public is beginning to see what Israel has been doing since its creation. They started out as Terrorists, and I don't see many changes to that stance up to press.

It can only be hoped that the coming elections in the U.S. and Israel will bring a complete change to the current regimes, I live in hope.

The Arabs are going to have to step up to the plate as well, yes, I know it will be difficult for all sides but we can only live in hope, for peace in the Middle East.

On a personal note, I'm totally non religious, but I feel very sorry for you as a Jew, to have to be going through this.

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Because Israel used all their bombs up unexpectedly in a short space of time and needed them replaced quick

Exactly. Without USA military aid, it likely would have been over.

34 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

No, not all of them.

Some of them are indigenous to Eastern Europe.

Like the Ashkenazis, I think.

Wrong.

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

^ Advertisement for the Israeli weapons industry ?

Our bombs work :)

No wonder this has gone on so long, how magnanimous of you.

12 minutes ago, connda said:

Such as 40,000 2000 lbs bombs capable of taking down entire high-rise apartment complexes and high-rise buildings housing corporations, businesses, and institutions.
Imho? With this recent contract, Israel can make Southern Beirut look like Gaza, and Gaza look like Hiroshima.
The use of this ordinance is inhuman and will be used to flatten cities and suburbs, like Gaza and Southern Beirut, which is the definition of "war crime" like it or not.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-908724z

According to a Grok query: "Who is paying for these bombs?" Grok reply:

"U.S. taxpayers, almost entirely.

The $2.8 billion package is structured as a “sale,” but reporting says most of it is paid through Foreign Military Financing (FMF): Washington grants Israel money that Israel then spends on U.S.-made weapons. Israel is not writing a check for the bulk of it.

That is the usual pipeline for U.S. munitions to Israel, not a one-off for this deal. Congress appropriates the FMF; the Pentagon and State Department run the transfer; U.S. manufacturers get paid with that grant money."

Hegseth is just the face of the Pentagon. The guy making the deals is the supposed deputy: Stephen Feinberg.

4 minutes ago, Storkit said:

Exactly. Without USA military aid, it likely would have been over.

And without Iranian military aid to Palestine , it would never have began in the first place