Georgealbert Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) Small fire overnight, reported at 00.30, in Royal Gardens. No injuries reported, but lots of smoke logging. You normally would expect Shopping Malls to have fire dampers and automatic smoke extraction to prevent this sort of smoke spread, but that could have been effected by the shops being closed and shuttered. Video posted by local rescue service below. https://fb.watch/s6dCZPYUiH/? Edited May 16 by Georgealbert 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAFETY FIRST Posted May 16 Popular Post Share Posted May 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Georgealbert said: Small fire overnight, reported at 00.30, in Royal Gardens. No injuries reported, but lots of smoke logging. You normally would expect Shopping Malls to have fire dampers and automatic smoke extraction to prevent this sort of smoke spread, but that could have been effected by the shops being closed and shuttered. Video posted by local rescue service below. https://fb.watch/s6dCZPYUiH/? Another, good reporting Scoop 👍 Probably one of those shops selling EV vehicles, disability scooter or similar self combusting. Edited May 16 by SAFETY FIRST 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 (edited) 29 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Another, good reporting Scoop 👍 Probably one of those EV vehicles, disability scooter or similar self combusting. Looking at the pictures and video I have seen, from the incident, this looks like a slow burning, smouldering type fire, lots of smoke and little flame, unless the fire was contained within a closed/shuttered shop and the smoke logging is secondary. Not ruling out anything as the cause, as have seen no pictures of where the fire started, but would be very surprised if this was thermal run away of a Li-ion battery, as the smoke characteristics are wrong. Looking at the fire hose layout and positioning of used extinguishers, it appears the fire may have started in the shop pictured below, which may have a menu outside. Edited May 16 by Georgealbert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Georgealbert said: Looking at the pictures and video I have seen, from the incident, this looks like a slow burning, smouldering type fire, lots of smoke and little flame, unless the fire was contained within a closed/shuttered shop and the smoke logging is secondary. Not ruling out anything as the cause, as have seen no pictures of where the fire started, but would be very surprised if this was thermal run away of a Li-ion battery, as the smoke characteristics are wrong. Looking at the fire hose layout and positioning of used extinguishers, it appears the fire may have started in the shop pictured below, which may have a menu outside. Agree Lots of smoke. Too bad about extraction of the smoke you mentioned earlier, that smoke gets into everything. So sorry for the shop owners, lots of destroyed items that will have to be thrown out, replaced. Edited May 16 by SAFETY FIRST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Agree Lots of smoke. Too bad about extraction of the smoke you mentioned earlier, that smoke gets into everything. So sorry for the shop owners, lots of destroyed items that will have to be thrown away. I believe that the units there, are protected by sprinklers, so the fire may have been contained, but not extinguished by the sprinklers, hence the density and appearance of the smoke, is a lot thinner/clearer that may be expected. The fire service are using PPV (positive pressure ventilation) fans to try to clear the smoke, which maybe in addition to any fixed extraction systems. It is impossible to determine what happened, as there is not enough information available, from a few pictures and video, but an investigation should be fairly easy to determine seat of fire and cause. Any investigation has to be open minded, looking at all information found at the scene, it does not work if you have a preconceived idea of a cause, and then try to get the fire scene to fit that idea. Yes the smoke will have caused a lot of damage to clothing, food supplies, electrical appliances, fitting, etc and the owners will face difficulties cleaning up and stock will be ruined. Edited May 16 by Georgealbert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 (edited) Updated information on the incident, states that the fire started in equipment in a hairdressers/beauty salon, on floor 1. Two people are reported to have required first aid for smoke inhalation, it is not clear if they were emergency responders, as the mall was closed to the public at the time of the fire. Video of the incident does show many people inside in the smoke without suitable respiratory protection, covid masks do not stop the effects of smoke. Edited May 17 by Georgealbert 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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