pop_corn Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Im so sorry about what happend, but umm trust is something very delicated and in this case she already broke it. I think u should look for someone in uk or so.. dont complicate your self with thai gals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmadness Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Judging by the state of most of the Farangs I see in Thailand, they should be falling to their knees and kissing Thailands streets to even have the opportunity of female companionship, paid or not. Perhaps it's time to stop meeting farangs on barstools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratchabuild Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Judging by the state of most of the Farangs I see in Thailand, they should be falling to their knees and kissing Thailands streets to even have the opportunity of female companionship, paid or not. Perhaps it's time to stop meeting farangs on barstools. You could easily spend that on a night out in the UK. Plus she would be embarrassed to ask for money to help family yet ask yourself what are the alternatives. If the family are in a real crisis and she wants to help however she can...............would you rather she turned tricks to earn the cash. Sometimes a girl can be caught inbetween a rock and a hard place, give her an alternative, trust her and help her now but explain that in future you need to know EVERYTHING. Its a small price to pay and any friend asked in the Uk you would lend such a small sum without thinking twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Judging by the state of most of the Farangs I see in Thailand, they should be falling to their knees and kissing Thailands streets to even have the opportunity of female companionship, paid or not. Perhaps it's time to stop meeting farangs on barstools. A good old Social Security system would take care of that for the majority, but alas, there ain't no such thing in LOS, hence the hoardes of farangs arriving in Thailand to exploit the poverty. Many try to justify it by saying , " I'm really into Asian girls", go to Singapore or Japan I believe they are also Asian, but wait a moment, you can't exploit them can you with your 300 quid a week job in the local supermarket in Barnsley stacking baked beans on the shelves. I don't notice hoardes of sex tourists heading to Tokyo, just the poor countries. I will advise Thai girls to get whatever they can out of Farangs, cos he WILL cheat on you for sure, and he DOES only see you as a subservient maid, cook, bedpartner, and when you are past your sell by date he WILL change you for a younger model. Get what you can girls, the clock is ticking!!! I hate the generalisation that appears on forums like this, don't you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmadness Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Its a small price to pay and any friend asked in the Uk you would lend such a small sum without thinking twice. Lending your mate money and having a girlfriend lie to you to get money is a different thing don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Its a small price to pay and any friend asked in the Uk you would lend such a small sum without thinking twice. Lending your mate money and having a girlfriend lie to you to get money is a different thing don't you think? My Farang mate in Bkk lied to me and cheated me out of 60,000 baht, I would advise all Thai people never to lend money to Farangs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I think u should look for someone in uk or so.. dont complicate your self with thai gals There you go lads, that's all the advice you will ever need, stick with your own kind and live an uncomplicated life with honest women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockstar Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 My wife would not let me take Thai lessons, she thought it would give me too much independence, my new girlfriend thinks learning Thai is a great idea.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop_corn Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I think u should look for someone in uk or so.. dont complicate your self with thai gals There you go lads, that's all the advice you will ever need, stick with your own kind and live an uncomplicated life with honest women. pretty much better than paying a gf . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccado Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 I would like to add that this story is true and not a load of bunk as someone has suggested. I appreciate the advice of get a girl in uk and don't complicate your life but i would like to add that i never specifically set out to fall for a thai girl but sometimes you can not control who you fall for. Any how i appreciate some people think she will have many men in her phone who send her money etc ....., i know this is not the case. For me it is a case of if i forgive her and move on from this and try to rebuild my trust in her. Will she see this as me being weak and effectively think she can get away with deception or will she think ok i made a mistake lets learn from this and not do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) For me it is a case of if i forgive her and move on from this and try to rebuild my trust in her. Will she see this as me being weak and effectively think she can get away with deception or will she think ok i made a mistake lets learn from this and not do it again. Nobody knows who you are, nobody knows who she is, you claim to know her intimately. So you know her better than any total stranger, right? Why are you posting on an anonymous internet forum asking advice from people who you would not know if they fell on you from a great height? Get a grip man !! It's your life, up to you. Edited August 7, 2007 by Maigo6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmadness Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 ^ Right on. OP needs to sort his life out, what answers is he really exp0ecting here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 what answers is he really exp0ecting here? The same answers any Troll expects when posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkGently Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I'd like to tackle this from a different angle. The OP has just asked if he forgives her will she see him as weak. This is very interesting. Will she now straight out ask for money? If she does, will she be angry/lose face/ have her delicate ego damaged if the answer is NO? I would like to be the first to congratulate the OP for finding a Thai that will own up to their lies/mistakes. Joking aside this could mean she really likes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) Will she see this as me being weak and effectively think she can get away with deception or will she think ok i made a mistake lets learn from this and not do it again. Better still, let her see how you deal with minor problems by letting her see your posts in this thread. I think she will see you for being a bit of an emotional weakling and dump you for a real man. Problem solved. Edited August 7, 2007 by Maigo6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapetable Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Spend the 15K Baht on a private eye............then u might learn something........positive or negative........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccado Posted August 7, 2007 Author Share Posted August 7, 2007 LOL Maigo6 i am neither a troll nor an emotional weekling, i am merely interested in peoples views, thank you for the posts though i appreciate your frankness and your honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 LOL Maigo6 i am neither a troll nor an emotional weekling, i am merely interested in peoples views, thank you for the posts though i appreciate your frankness and your honesty Glad to assist in a fellow farangs mega problems. Instead of asking a bunch of total strangers from an internet forum about your personal life, ask the man in the mirror what he thinks about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upcountry Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 (edited) Culture Shock Thailand talks about the notion of truth and commitments to things as simple as meeting for lunch, etc. So right off the boat, we can be prepared for the differences about "truth" in the Land of Lies. ;-) There are as many roads to love and heartbreak as there are seekers, so no one can claim to understand exactly what is going on for the OP. I'd probably fall into his predicament as quickly as he did, if I was in his shoes. Still the parable of high school sweethearts who have to go to separate colleges might apply to anyone who is considering a relationship that will involve a significant separation of time and distance. It might be best to say, "thanks, it was nice. I hope we can pick up where we left off the next time I'm in Thailand. Until then, lets let time pass and see what happens." The OP's situation seems to illustrate how easy it is for mistrust or deceit to occur. Thais in my extended family here pleaded for money from farang relatives, because of dire circumstances. They spent at least part of the money to decoratively pave their long driveway! This kind of situation is posted on the forum much more often than success stories. I suppose its worth noting that as well. The lucky ones rarely feel like tooting their horns here. Edited August 7, 2007 by Upcountry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffcoat Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 If it sticks in your throat and will always be a cancer eating away at you then you know what to do. If you can file it away and make it part of understanding this girl then you have the option to continue. Only you can truly decide what is best for you. If we all took the advice of the one mistake and you are out brigade the global divorce rate would be 100%. No one is perfect (apart from me) and you do have to accept behaviour you do not feel comfortable with in any relationship, the point is knowing what is beyond the line for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksingapore Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 what answers is he really exp0ecting here? The same answers any Troll expects when posting! you are the expert on trolling maigo6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Still can't understand why anybody would come to a forum for advice about relationships. For me it says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maigo6 Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 what answers is he really exp0ecting here? The same answers any Troll expects when posting! you are the expert on trolling maigo6. For a guy that's been on the forum a few days, how would you know ? Or are you trolling ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 what answers is he really exp0ecting here? The same answers any Troll expects when posting! you are the expert on trolling maigo6. For a guy that's been on the forum a few days, how would you know ? Or are you trolling ? True. I've been here for years and haven't yet figured out if you're a troll, embittered, a bit batty or just a combination of the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RueFang Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 In my opinion, if she was in this relationship because she loves/cares for you she would have no reason to lie to you. She would be able to say straight up "Can I borrow/have some money to help my mother out?"..it's not difficult to tell the truth if feelings and situation are genuine. Who can blame Thai women for the situation here with so many thinking that farang men are their ticket to money when they're so keen to lavish them with cash handouts when they don't even live in the same country and have only been together a few months. People like to blame the women but the men have brought it on themselves. If someone lies to you once they will absolutely do it again..you should consider yourself lucky you got a sign so early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksingapore Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 what answers is he really exp0ecting here? The same answers any Troll expects when posting! you are the expert on trolling maigo6. For a guy that's been on the forum a few days, how would you know ? Or are you trolling ? lets see you lashed out at people at this thread for criticizing a women who asked her bf living overseas for 15k baht for something that costs 2k baht, telling us that we are rotten for expecting her to throw her parents out into the night. then you told us that we should try to meet thai girls outside of bars. so, for your sake, i hope you are just a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 what answers is he really exp0ecting here? The same answers any Troll expects when posting! Your bit of a troll yourself Maigo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethevigoman Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 Id say call it and early warning and move on,theres already doubt in your mind and distrust or you wouldnt have posted, sounds like another gold digger, and they work in offices as well as bars ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethevigoman Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I think everyone has different standards as to what goes over the line of just being a small white lie and what is a major lie. If you had a girlfriend in the UK that lied to you in a very similar way, how would you treat the situation ? Just because she is Thai does not mean that you should change your standards of trust in people .I should mention that 2000 Baht would not get you far at AUA for English lessons and the 15000 Baht would be a more likely sum for any reasonable number of lessons so it confused me a little when she admitted that she lied to you. IMHO if you have checked it out thorougly and she did in fact lie to you, at the very least this type of behavior should throw up a big yellow warning flag to you. As for my personal standards, lies about money are major deal breakers when it comes to future trust. Good luck. Very good answer and advise, i think we all know what we would do if a new (ish) girlfriend lied to us in our home countries, but common sense seems to go out the window as its a thai,.i left 300.000 baht in my bank and gave my girlfriend (then ) access to it and went back to the uk for 3 weeks,. i told her whilst i was away if she needed money for anything to take what she needed, ! ( yes yes i know now,read on ),you know what im going to say now dont you? ,.yep youre right, when i got back all but the pet dog had been ill and the lot was gone, she was not a bar girl but worked as telephonist at a hotel, i dumped her right away,.,i did it again ! with another girl, she spent 1500 baht of it on something for me !, i married her 7 years ago, shes a super girl, dont give up, they are about,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethevigoman Posted August 7, 2007 Share Posted August 7, 2007 I suggest: Get yourself a copy of "Confessions Of A Bangkok Private Eye". I agree with this suggestion. Perhaps it should be made compulsory reading !! money number one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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