Evidence of Covid19 vaccine shedding

[Red Phoenix]

Shedding is real. We do NOT need to prove that shedding occurs. The FDA needs to require Pfizer and Moderna to do the studies to prove that shedding is NOT happening.

 

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> Much more evidence and links to studies on this subject in Chapter 17 of James Roguski's Covid-19 Vaccine Resource Center

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding

 

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[Will B Good]

Shedding....another well know fact....... only occurs with live-attenuated vaccines......like  the polio vaccine. It has nothing to do with covid vaccines.

 

Nice try.

[Red Phoenix]

18 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Shedding....another well know fact....... only occurs with live-attenuated vaccines......like  the polio vaccine. It has nothing to do with covid vaccines.

 

Nice try.

 

Then do provide some evidence for your claim that shedding ONLY occurs with live-attenuated vaccines.   The FDA did NOT require the mRNA manufacturers to provide it.

But real-life evidence shows that shedding also happens with mRNA gen-therapies from the jabbed to the unvaccinated.

Do check evidence and links to studies on this subject in Chapter 17 of James Roguski's Covid-19 Vaccine Resource Center

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding

 

Here already some links:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Shedding-of-COVID-mRNA-Vaccines-A-review-of-evidence-2024-02-03.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/shedding-is-real/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/courses/conference-2024/lessons/shedding-is-real/

 

[Will B Good]

15 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Then do provide some evidence for your claim that shedding ONLY occurs with live-attenuated vaccines.   The FDA did NOT require the mRNA manufacturers to provide it.

But real-life evidence shows that shedding also happens with mRNA gen-therapies from the jabbed to the unvaccinated.

Do check evidence and links to studies on this subject in Chapter 17 of James Roguski's Covid-19 Vaccine Resource Center

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding

 

Here already some links:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Shedding-of-COVID-mRNA-Vaccines-A-review-of-evidence-2024-02-03.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/shedding-is-real/

https://covid19criticalcare.com/courses/conference-2024/lessons/shedding-is-real/

 

 

There is simply no requirement to show shedding doesn't occur......what next?....where's the evidence you don't grow an extra arm if you take paracetamol?

 

mRNA vaccines use a strand of genetic material (mRNA) to instruct cells to produce a harmless piece of the target virus (e.g., the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2).

• The immune system recognizes this spike protein as foreign and generates an immune response.

• The mRNA itself degrades quickly after being used by the body, and it never integrates into a person’s DNA or replicates like a live virus would so shedding is impossible.

[Red Phoenix]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

There is simply no requirement to show shedding doesn't occur......what next?....where's the evidence you don't grow an extra arm if you take paracetamol?

 

mRNA vaccines use a strand of genetic material (mRNA) to instruct cells to produce a harmless piece of the target virus (e.g., the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2).

• The immune system recognizes this spike protein as foreign and generates an immune response.

• The mRNA itself degrades quickly after being used by the body, and it never integrates into a person’s DNA or replicates like a live virus would so shedding is impossible.

Highlighted in red the lies you have been fed...

[Will B Good]

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

Highlighted in red the lies you have been fed...

 

And I assume you have hard evidence from reputable, independent sources who have conducted scientifically approved investigations to support all the bits in red (by the way, using coloured font is against forum rules)

[Stiddle Mump]

TBH, I'm baffled by this shedding stuff. Obviously things can be passed from one to another, but through shedding?

 

Nature does it all the time.

[Hamus Yaigh]

[Will B Good]

Regarding his educational background, Roguski’s Facebook profile indicates that he studied at the U.S. Army Combat Engineer Corps.

 

Wow....he's on the money.....I assume I've looked up the wrong guy.....presumably your guy is a heavily qualified medical professional.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

 

We are feeding the troll posting here....I'm guilty for sure?

[Hamus Yaigh]

“Vaccine shedding” is a term you’ll sometimes hear, but it’s often misunderstood and misused. The idea behind it is that people vaccinated against a certain disease can somehow “shed” the disease and infect unvaccinated people. However, that’s not possible with the COVID-19 vaccine.

 

Let me explain why in simple terms:  Vaccines work by stimulating your body’s immune response, so it can recognize and fight off a virus if you’re exposed to it. Claims of vaccine shedding have often been linked to fears or conspiracy theories about mRNA or spike proteins spreading and causing harm to unvaccinated individuals. There is no scientific evidence to support these claims.

Spike proteins produced as a result of mRNA vaccines are not infectious and cannot replicate or spread to others.

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Regarding his educational background, Roguski’s Facebook profile indicates that he studied at the U.S. Army Combat Engineer Corps.

 

Wow....he's on the money.....I assume I've looked up the wrong guy.....presumably your guy is a heavily qualified medical professional.

Please tell me how to go on YouTube, armed with a shelf full of books behind me, a teleprompter, and thick spectacles.

 

When I explain viruses and bacteria are actually nano-chips coated onto every device sold with a Microsoft OS, I am sure I can get a million subscribers.

[Airalee]

The sleeve-rollers will desperately try to discount anything that doesn’t fit the “safe and effective” mantra.

 

You know why they post so much here?  
 

Because they’re worried.  
 

Look how many keep catching whatever bug goes around.

 

But don’t worry.  They’re all old and will be dead soon anyways.

[rattlesnake]

50 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

 

Spoken like a true believer of the $ci€nc€ cult!

 

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

The sleeve-rollers will desperately try to discount anything that doesn’t fit the “safe and effective” mantra.

 

You know why they post so much here?  
 

Because they’re worried.  
 

Look how many keep catching whatever bug goes around.

 

But don’t worry.  They’re all old and will be dead soon anyways.

Jerk

[Will B Good]

40 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Spoken like a true believer of the $ci€nc€ cult!

 

...and?

[rattlesnake]

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

...and?

 

You'll figure it out.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

The sleeve-rollers will desperately try to discount anything that doesn’t fit the “safe and effective” mantra.

 

You know why they post so much here?  
 

Because they’re worried.  
 

Look how many keep catching whatever bug goes around.

 

But don’t worry.  They’re all old and will be dead soon anyways.

Not worried at all.

 

I'm just hoping something really nasty comes along with a 90% mortality rate, to take out all the anti-vaxxers.

 

Think of the improvement in average IQ that would result.

[KhunHeineken]

14 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Not worried at all.

 

I'm just hoping something really nasty comes along with a 90% mortality rate, to take out all the anti-vaxxers.

 

Think of the improvement in average IQ that would result.

You are classifying everyone that was suspicious, or "anti" MRNA, as an anti vaxxer, despite these people most likely having many other vaccinations in their life time.

 

It takes around 6 years to properly develop a vaccine.  MRNA was pushed out in under 12 months.  Obviously, short cuts had to be taken.  We saw it with Astra and the blood clots.  Who knows what's further down the track?

 

Companies are all about profits.  Think asbestos.  The gift that just keeps giving.  Now, it's manufactured stone.  As for big Pharma, there was the ruptured breast implants, the thalidomide pill, and the Essure contraceptive device, just to name a few.   The VW car company with their deceitful manipulation of engine data.  The Qantas airline selling seats on planes they knew were never going to take off.  

 

The list of corporate greed is endless.  It goes on and on. 

 

[Red Phoenix]

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

And I assume you have hard evidence from reputable, independent sources who have conducted scientifically approved investigations to support all the bits in red (by the way, using coloured font is against forum rules)

I have tons of hard evidence for each of the 3 lies you regurgitated from the complicit mainstream media.  But as you didn't even open the link [ https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding  ] that leads to a multitude of studies and articles on the shedding topic, it's a waste if time providing more info on the other issues.

[amexpat]

24 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

It takes around 6 years to properly develop a vaccine.  MRNA was pushed out in under 12 months. 

Yep thing took a lot longer without super computers, AI, progress. 

 

[KhunHeineken]

3 minutes ago, amexpat said:

Yep thing took a lot longer without super computers, AI, progress. 

 

I didn't know they injected it into a super computer to see the effects.  Did the computer develop any side effects, like clotting, for example? 

[rattlesnake]

Tall Guy John posting a fact check saying shedding doesn't exist in 3, 2, 1…

[KhunHeineken]

Miscarriages up 300%.

 

Cancers up 300%.

 

Neurological disorders up 1000%. 

 

The list goes on.

 

The first doctor's testimony is very interesting, and he comes across as a credible witness, as they all do.  He talks about cancers.

 

Have a look at the second doctor talking about myocarditis, and then the lady talking about the military data.  

 

https://rumble.com/vtao85-dod-and-fauci-caught-in-massive-scandal-hiding-death-and-damage-from-covid-.html

 

[jaywalker2]

5 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Shedding is real. We do NOT need to prove that shedding occurs. The FDA needs to require Pfizer and Moderna to do the studies to prove that shedding is NOT happening.

 

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> Much more evidence and links to studies on this subject in Chapter 17 of James Roguski's Covid-19 Vaccine Resource Center

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding

 

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Shedding is one of the funniest tropes spun by antivaxxers. It was promulgated by Pierre Kory, who had one patient claim that she had imbibed the Mrna spiked protein while giving a BJ to her husband. Of course, Kory immediately set out to create a course of treatment. Last I read, he was charging over $2000 for a series of 3 online appointments to treat not just Covid, but what he calls "long vax" (because of course he doesn't believe in long covid), and vaccine injuries. None of his treatments have been subjected to random-controlled trials of course but that doesn't matter because he knows they work. Look how much money he's making after all.

 

Kory was the first proponents of Ivermectin, citing an Argentine study that found 100 percent efficacy when Ivermectin was taken as a prophylactic. The study turned out to be, if not outright fraudulent, riddled with errors and fake data. Kory himself ended up getting Covid 19, as did Bret Weinstein, who had gone on Joe Rogan to tout the benefits of Ivermectin based on Kory's recommendation.

 

Kory was one of the founders of the FLCC, and was making over $300,000 a year until he quit because his private Covid practice had become so lucrative. He's just one of the many antivaxxers who has become rich through his antivax activities while at the same time attacking big pharma for their lack of ethics and focus on profits.

[rattlesnake]

5 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Shedding is one of the funniest tropes spun by antivaxxers.

 

You should send an email to the FDA and ask them to retract their own document, in which they define shedding as “the release of [viral or bacterial gene therapy products] … from the patient through one or all of the following ways: excreta (feces); secreta (urine, saliva, nasopharyngeal fluids etc.); or through the skin (pustules, sores, wounds).”:

 

Design and Analysis of Shedding Studies for Virus or Bacteria-Based Gene Therapy and Oncolytic Products

https://www.fda.gov/media/89036/download

[jaywalker2]

10 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You should send an email to the FDA and ask them to retract their own document, in which they define shedding as “the release of [viral or bacterial gene therapy products] … from the patient through one or all of the following ways: excreta (feces); secreta (urine, saliva, nasopharyngeal fluids etc.); or through the skin (pustules, sores, wounds).”:

 

Design and Analysis of Shedding Studies for Virus or Bacteria-Based Gene Therapy and Oncolytic Products

https://www.fda.gov/media/89036/download

You either didn't understand what was being presented or didn't bother to read the paper ifully. It was talking about bacteria or viral based therapies.

 

This is why covid vaccine shedding is impossible:

 

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MIDHHS/bulletins/2e3a804

 

Even Kory couldn't come up with a coherent explanation for how Covid 19 vaccine shedding could occur. But that didn't stop him from taking money from his patients for treating it.

 

[rattlesnake]

7 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

You either didn't understand what was being presented or didn't bother to read the paper ifully. It was talking about bacteria or viral based therapies.

 

This is why covid vaccine shedding is impossible:

 

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MIDHHS/bulletins/2e3a804

 

Even Kory couldn't come up with a coherent explanation for how Covid 19 vaccine shedding could occur. But that didn't stop him from taking money from his patients for treating it.

 

 

In this document, the FDA explains what gene therapy products are: “All products that mediate their effects by transcription and/or translation of transferred genetic material.”

 

The COVID-19 mRNA and adenovirus vaccines, which mediate their effects by inducing the body to translate mRNA genetic information into spike proteins, fall into this category, as explained in the published paper below.

 

mRNA: Vaccine or Gene Therapy? The Safety Regulatory Issues

https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/24/13/10514

 

[rattlesnake]

I definitely observed strange things at the height of the Covid crisis, when people were having their second boosters. Myself and others would feel unwell after visiting populated places such as supermarkets (nothing the Zelenko protocol wouldn't solve).

 

I actually still take the Z protocol today (zinc, vitamins D and C and quercetin, topped with NAC) as people are very often sick nowadays, to the point where I wonder if Geert Vanden Bossche and Luc Montagnier's prediction (that the vaccinated would continue to incubate and spread super-strains of respiratory viruses) is true. It certainly would explain the mega-flu circulating in Europe now (I know two people, one triple-jabbed and one unvaxxed, who caught it and were very ill, the triple-jabbed recovered after three weeks, the unvaxxed after ten days).

[Airalee]

4 hours ago, Will B Good said:

Jerk

Thanks 😊 

 

Wouldn’t you be better served in the health forum discussing one of your many ailments?

 

Reading this forum has got to be bad for your health.