20 minutes ago, madone said:

John, john, john, I realize this is important to you, but the Trump visit has sweet fark all to do with the article you just posted. 

 

Mahdone, Mahdone, Madhone.

 

I can assue you that securing borders/illegal immigration is very much a major geopolitical and economic concern.

 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The meeting underscores an ongoing effort to nurture the "special relationship" between the UK and the US, focusing on major geopolitical and economic concerns.

 

 

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A meeting of two kings. One is real, the other imagined. So sad for British people to host this brute. 

 

Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind. 

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

 

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

 

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. 

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. 

 

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

 

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of bull<deleted>. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

 

 

in Britain we?

 

 

 

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A meeting of two kings. One is real, the other imagined. So sad for British people to host this brute. 

 

Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind. 

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

 

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

 

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. 

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. 

 

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

 

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of bull<deleted>. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

 

Interviewed on his last visit to the UK Trump stated I didnt see any demonstrators shouting at me its all lies and fake news. Even though a few thousand turned up in Trafalga Square.

54 minutes ago, Jonnapat said:

Absolutely disgusted by this.

I hope the British public give him the welcome deserving of a narcissistic felon.

I suspect they will - his narcissistic streak should be well sated by that inflatable model of him which we can be sure will be bobbing over the rooftops of the Royal Borough of Windsor!

24 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Using isolated Windsor Castle with its 13 acres will automatically deter public protest demonstrations against the Trump meeting.

I favor The Tower of London for a meet with the convicted American.

PS: Does Trump know that King Charles is also King of Canada?

 

I hope not for much longer. Can't remember the last time a Canadian Prime Minister received this honour. Trudeau only had a state dinner hosted by Liz as part of a group. I guess the largest country outside the UK in her realm did not rate compared to the Yank felon. Time to vote on a republic it seems.

This trip will cost taxpayers of both countries approximately $23 million dollars.   Probably. Wow, I just Googled this and in 2021 it cost $24 million.  I must be a savant.  

 

Tariffs from 35 to 35.2 percent.   That's enough.   

 

The Illuminati must be provided for.  This is the way.   

 

Trump has asked for Fish and Chips with Cod procured by the most famous fishermen on the planet!!!!  

 

Don't worry, we can spend the next 2343243 days speculating about what they talked about, as they sip million dollar bottles of wine and stare at priceless paintings.

 

OK, off to get some Papaya Salad, 30 baht.   It's only a 3 km walk in 40 C weather.  Gofundme!!!!!!

 

Brits, make sure you taxpayers make Trump feel at home.   100 million is nothing!!!!  If it makes Trump happy.  

38 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

MAGA's live in the moment. They have no capacity to remember past their last Trump rally nor the interllect to work out they're beng screwed even as their jobs and medical care disappear, 

I know some highly intelligent people who support him. I think in the beginning they supported his policies and they couldn't wrap their minds around how low quality a candidate the Dems put forth, and I tend to agree with that. I hated Harris.

 

But now they feel kind of locked in and it's considered highly unpopular to criticize the goon, it's just not supported or tolerated within the community, so I think the ones who are getting tired of him just keep their mouths shut. This recent Epstein episode is angering people to the point where maybe some can't keep quiet anymore. 

 

Things are getting interesting and as usual Trump is incredibly clumsy when it comes to handling a crisis. The reason? It's not scripted, and when he goes off script he is dreadful, and demonstrates his rather extraordinary lack of intelligence. 

12 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Interviewed on his last visit to the UK Trump stated I didnt see any demonstrators shouting at me its all lies and fake news. Even though a few thousand turned up in Trafalga Square.

Well there's nothing surprising about that, he has spent his entire life inventing an alternate universe and getting millions of people to buy into it. 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I know some highly intelligent people who support him. I think in the beginning they supported his policies and they couldn't wrap their minds around how low quality a candidate the Dems put forth, and I tend to agree with that. I hated Harris.

 

But now they feel kind of locked in and it's considered highly unpopular to criticize the goon, it's just not supported or tolerated within the community, so I think the ones who are getting tired of him just keep their mouths shut. This recent Epstein episode is angering people to the point where maybe some can't keep quiet anymore. 

 

Things are getting interesting and as usual Trump is incredibly clumsy when it comes to handling a crisis. The reason? It's not scripted, and when he goes off script he is dreadful, and demonstrates his rather extraordinary lack of intelligence. 

It is noticable that the noise, bluster and childish insults have slowed down considerably on this forum. Some have gone very quiet.

1 minute ago, pegman said:

I hope not for much longer. Can't remember the last time a Canadian Prime Minister received this honour. Trudeau only had a state dinner hosted by Liz as part of a group. I guess the largest country outside the UK in her realm did not rate compared to the Yank felon. Time to vote on a republic it seems.

I don't want to be pedantic, (well actuallyI do), but Queen Elisabeth was Queen of Canada and King Charles is King of Canada. So for them to host a state visit - which means by definition a visit by the head of state of a foreign country means that they would be hosting themselves. Trudeau (and Carney) as their Prime Ministers are constitutionally far more important than and  will have more frequent and meaningful consultations than those enjoyed (?) with Trump.

 

Of course the decision as to whether to vote for a President is one for the Canadian people - but they may wish to ponder on the malignant, fat, spray tanned orange presence looming over their southern border!

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2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

What behaviour was that?

 

Arriving late for his meeting with the Queen

Walking in front of the Queen

Looking over the Queen's shoulder

Touching the Queen's body

Dressing like a slob in an ill-fitting suit

Making political comments during a State visit, including tweets about the Mayor of London

 

One could add, repeatedly claiming that the Queen had greatly enjoyed his company.  She didn't, and later referred to him as "very rude".

 

 

 

 

Wrong Venue - should be Tower of London!

If wife swapping is involved then I would almost feel sorry for DT.  Charles, you lucky dog!  

 

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

A meeting of two kings. One is real, the other imagined. So sad for British people to host this brute. 

 

Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

"A few things spring to mind. 

Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

 

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness. There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

 

And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege. And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. 

That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. 

 

There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down. So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:* Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.* You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

 

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of bull<deleted>. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

 

Many thanks for this accurate description of the world's evil.❤️

13 minutes ago, Zaphod Priest said:

 

Arriving late for his meeting with the Queen

Walking in front of the Queen

Looking over the Queen's shoulder

Touching the Queen's body

Dressing like a slob in an ill-fitting suit

Making political comments during a State visit, including tweets about the Mayor of London

 

One could add, repeatedly claiming that the Queen had greatly enjoyed his company.  She didn't, and later referred to him as "very rude".

 

 

 

 

No she did not refer to him as rude at at, that was bull shot written after she had died so there was nothing verifiable.

What have Lammy, Stamer and a whole host of UK politicians said about Trump?

You should change your news channels theyre making you write stupid things and sound like a weak man

7 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

No she did not refer to him as rude at at, that was bull shot written after she had died so there was nothing verifiable.

 

You want to say that the royal biographer is a liar, and that all credible new sources who published it are liars as well?

If I have to decide who is the liar, all those credible source or an anonymous Russian poster on AN, then I know which one it is.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/queen-elizabeth-donald-trump-very-rude-book-1941586

 

Queen Elizabeth II said Donald Trump was "very rude" after he visited Britain during his presidency, and believed that the president "must have an arrangement" with wife, Melania Trump, to maintain their marriage, the late monarch's biographer has claimed in a new book.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3e550839o

 

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4837736-queen-elizabeth-trump-book/

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/queen-elizabeth-ii-verdict-donald-trump-very-rude/

24 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Queen Elizabeth II said Donald Trump was "very rude"

 

Are you certain she didn't say he was very orange?   

 

After Putin's first meeting with DT the first report was he thought DT was "brilliant."  Given a second reading, it turned out he meant "very shiny" brilliant, as opposed to a comment on mental acuity. 

 

 

32 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

You want to say that the royal biographer is a liar, and that all credible new sources who published it are liars as well?

If I have to decide who is the liar, all those credible source or an anonymous Russian poster on AN, then I know which one it is.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/queen-elizabeth-donald-trump-very-rude-book-1941586

 

Queen Elizabeth II said Donald Trump was "very rude" after he visited Britain during his presidency, and believed that the president "must have an arrangement" with wife, Melania Trump, to maintain their marriage, the late monarch's biographer has claimed in a new book.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3e550839o

 

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4837736-queen-elizabeth-trump-book/

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/queen-elizabeth-ii-verdict-donald-trump-very-rude/

 

 

Queen Calls Trump Rude

Claims about whether Queen Elizabeth II called Donald Trump "very rude" are conflicting. Author Craig Brown, in his upcoming biography A Voyage Around The Queen, asserts that the Queen confided in a lunch guest weeks after Trump's 2018 visit, expressing that she found him "very rude," particularly disliking how he kept looking over her shoulder as if searching for more interesting people. Brown also claims the Queen speculated about Trump's marriage, suggesting she believed Melania Trump must have had "some sort of arrangement" to remain married to him.

However, these claims have been strongly disputed by insiders and former royal staff. A former Buckingham Palace aide stated that the Queen actually described Trump and his family as "gracious" and "wonderful guests" after hosting them during his state visit in 2019. Jack Stooks, a former royal gardener, criticized the allegations, saying they "disrespect her memory" and that it was out of character for the Queen to make such remarks, especially behind someone's back.

Donald Trump and his team have also dismissed the claims, with Trump reportedly saying he was told he was the Queen’s "favorite president" and calling the allegations "fake news." His campaign communications director, Steven Cheung, described the book as "salacious fabrications" meant to sell copies.

The Queen, known for her discretion and apolitical stance, rarely expressed personal opinions publicly, and those close to her maintain that the allegations in Brown’s book are inconsistent with her character and conduct.

 

Yes, the staff dispute his claims and go further to say he was disrespecting her memory, for his own gain in book sales no doubt.

But as usual you believe absolutely everything yours told because it fits your orange man bad narrative.

Seems Brown is a frothy antitrumpite as you all here are.

 

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 

 

Queen Calls Trump Rude

Claims about whether Queen Elizabeth II called Donald Trump "very rude" are conflicting. Author Craig Brown, in his upcoming biography A Voyage Around The Queen, asserts that the Queen confided in a lunch guest weeks after Trump's 2018 visit, expressing that she found him "very rude," particularly disliking how he kept looking over her shoulder as if searching for more interesting people. Brown also claims the Queen speculated about Trump's marriage, suggesting she believed Melania Trump must have had "some sort of arrangement" to remain married to him.

However, these claims have been strongly disputed by insiders and former royal staff. A former Buckingham Palace aide stated that the Queen actually described Trump and his family as "gracious" and "wonderful guests" after hosting them during his state visit in 2019. Jack Stooks, a former royal gardener, criticized the allegations, saying they "disrespect her memory" and that it was out of character for the Queen to make such remarks, especially behind someone's back.

Donald Trump and his team have also dismissed the claims, with Trump reportedly saying he was told he was the Queen’s "favorite president" and calling the allegations "fake news." His campaign communications director, Steven Cheung, described the book as "salacious fabrications" meant to sell copies.

The Queen, known for her discretion and apolitical stance, rarely expressed personal opinions publicly, and those close to her maintain that the allegations in Brown’s book are inconsistent with her character and conduct.

 

Yes, the staff dispute his claims and go further to say he was disrespecting her memory, for his own gain in book sales no doubt.

But as usual you believe absolutely everything yours told because it fits your orange man bad narrative.

Seems Brown is a frothy antitrumpite as you all here are.

 

 

And the source is?????????????

1 hour ago, Old Croc said:

It is noticable that the noise, bluster and childish insults have slowed down considerably on this forum. Some have gone very quiet.

Criticism of royalty is expressly prohibited, and if a supporter is found criticizing him they could easily be rounded up by masked terrorists weaponized by the government. ICE. 

 

 

5 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

Excellent news, a rare honor for President Trump, let's hope he can knock some sense into Charles!

Charles has no political power. 

Today's News Tomorrow's Chip Paper.

I feel really sorry for King Charles.

9 hours ago, Tug said:

Sorry in advance.

 

Why? He's not bringing you along is he?

 

3 hours ago, Jonnapat said:

Absolutely disgusted by this.

I hope the British public give him the welcome deserving of a narcissistic felon.

 

We love Trump. We want our very own Trump. But Farage will do for now. 

It makes perfect sense that Trump stays at the castle. I'm sure it will present an excellent opportunity for him and the pedo prince to catch up on things.

After all it's highly likely they have shared much more than a few laughs together.

The things a monarch has to do for the sake of diplomacy.

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Why?

 

Surely he'd be happy to remove his own borders and take his fair share? 

I must confess that I am surprised, given the regularity with which you make comments upon the government of The United Kingdom, and being as how you are a British citizen (albeit one who clearly hankers after the smack of firm government as delivered by the flabby paws of a foreign head of state), that your understanding of our constitution is so limited that you think that the King has any executive powers over our borders. Frankly I doubt whether he even owns a sharpie!

3 minutes ago, Purdey said:

The things a monarch has to do for the sake of diplomacy.

Grim hard work.

2 minutes ago, JAG said:

I must confess that I am surprised, given the regularity with which you make comments upon the government of The United Kingdom, and being as how you are a British citizen (albeit one who clearly hankers after the smack of firm government as delivered by the flabby paws of a foreign head of state), that your understanding of our constitution is so limited that you think that the King has any executive powers over our borders. Frankly I doubt whether he even owns a sharpie!

 

I must confess I am not the least surprised that you failed to realize that it was a reference to the borders of his own residences. He still seems quite keen on those, if not the ones separating us from France.

 

It would seem he is fine with UK citizens being surrounded by illegal immigrants, as long as he does not have to be. 

 

Ivory towers spring to mind.