Abraham Lincoln was the best wartime president the US has ever had. Like Trump with Iran, he faced cabal of evil running the South who didn't care about the lack of popular support.

Instead of backing down because "Oh no, school girls get killed", Lincoln unleashed the psychotic General William Tecumseh Sherman who marched his troops across Georgia, killing and burning all the things, and then did it some more in South Carolina.

Total War until not much left, then Total Victory (hard on civilians).

The IRGC doesn't care that their people are now bankrupt, and was willing to let them get minorly bombed by the oh-so-careful US forces. They simply had to wait it out, which they did, and now are victorious. Their people are much poorer, but they get their billions back.

So who's next? Cuba would be a good move. They are terrible to their people and, without Venezuelan support, are reeling economically. No gas to run their 1950s era Soviet cars. Turn loose economic assassin Scott Bessent on them for a few months, then do an "extraction" of some of their leaders.

In the meantime, we can enjoy the destruction of OPEC, and cheaper gas will be available soon. Good enough for government work.

2 hours ago, davb said:

Abraham Lincoln was the best wartime president the US has ever had. Like Trump with Iran, he faced cabal of evil running the South who didn't care about the lack of popular support.

Instead of backing down because "Oh no, school girls get killed", Lincoln unleashed the psychotic General William Tecumseh Sherman who marched his troops across Georgia, killing and burning all the things, and then did it some more in South Carolina.

Total War until not much left, then Total Victory (hard on civilians).

The IRGC doesn't care that their people are now bankrupt, and was willing to let them get minorly bombed by the oh-so-careful US forces. They simply had to wait it out, which they did, and now are victorious. Their people are much poorer, but they get their billions back.

So who's next? Cuba would be a good move. They are terrible to their people and, without Venezuelan support, are reeling economically. No gas to run their 1950s era Soviet cars. Turn loose economic assassin Scott Bessent on them for a few months, then do an "extraction" of some of their leaders.

In the meantime, we can enjoy the destruction of OPEC, and cheaper gas will be available soon. Good enough for government work.

I won't comment about much of your post but Israel and USA seem to be the only countries to target hospitals and schools. Even the Nazis did not back when war was considered 'civilised'.

"Historians estimate that roughly 50,000 civilians died in the Civil War period due to battle accidents, guerrilla warfare, and indirect impacts like disease and starvation.

"During the Siege of Vicksburg, women and children lived in underground caves to escape the bombardments.

"Jennie Wade was the only civilian killed in the crossfire of the Battle of Gettysburg while baking bread.

"Hundreds of women secretly served as soldiers for both the Union and the Confederacy, disguised as men, and were killed on the battlefield."

My great-grandfather was a Union soldier at the Battle of Gettysburg. I still have his flintlock per my Second Amendment rights.

It appears he was shot in the buttocks running away, according to pension records. Must be why intelligence over valour runs in my family.

Gummint paid him until his death. Knowing my family, they probably didn’t tell gummint he was dead for quite a long time!

Communism is a thorn in the side of the Western Hemisphere giant, USA .

100 million lives in 100 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

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Imagine being the Speaker of the House and getting "community noted" because of your pathetic North Korean style sycophantic adulation!🤣

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5 hours ago, davb said:

Abraham Lincoln was the best wartime president the US has ever had. Like Trump with Iran, he faced cabal of evil running the South who didn't care about the lack of popular support.

Instead of backing down because "Oh no, school girls get killed", Lincoln unleashed the psychotic General William Tecumseh Sherman who marched his troops across Georgia, killing and burning all the things, and then did it some more in South Carolina.

Total War until not much left, then Total Victory (hard on civilians).

The IRGC doesn't care that their people are now bankrupt, and was willing to let them get minorly bombed by the oh-so-careful US forces. They simply had to wait it out, which they did, and now are victorious. Their people are much poorer, but they get their billions back.

So who's next? Cuba would be a good move. They are terrible to their people and, without Venezuelan support, are reeling economically. No gas to run their 1950s era Soviet cars. Turn loose economic assassin Scott Bessent on them for a few months, then do an "extraction" of some of their leaders.

In the meantime, we can enjoy the destruction of OPEC, and cheaper gas will be available soon. Good enough for government work.

The Yanks Can't fight there way out of a wet paper bag unless they get help from Coalition forces usually from the UK. As seen in there latest shocker against Iran outwitted and clueless. The only good thing the Yanks do is talk a good War.

The tactic of distraction has been used by despot since the dawn of time. Let's see the tax return and Epstein files!

2 minutes ago, Kandinski said:

The tactic of distraction has been used by despot since the dawn of time. Let's see the tax return and Epstein files!

Exactly. Trump FAFOs in Iran, surrenders and the probably heads to Cuba to continue producing diversions for the Epstein files.

And after that it's probably Greenland 2.0.

It all comes down to protecting the pedos.

26 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Imagine being the Speaker of the House and getting "community noted" because of your pathetic North Korean style sycophantic adulation!🤣

His statement does not appear to be consistent with reality...

2 hours ago, Kandinski said:

The tactic of distraction has been used by despot since the dawn of time. Let's see the tax return and Epstein files!

More deflections. "Tax returns and Epstein files" have become the all purpose distraction anytime inconvenient news pops up. The topic here is Cuba ,an actual authoritarian communist regime that has crushed dissent for decades, executed or imprisoned thousands of its own citizens, and driven mass emigration because people are desperate to escape.

The international and domestic left keeps excusing or romanticizing these regimes (Cuba, Venezuela, Iran etc.) while screaming despot at domestic opponents. That's not distraction by a leader ,that's your side losing the plot on basic human rights,far left initiative policies and self determination. Focus on the actual story instead of whataboutism, but but epstein & old news already submitted tax returns.

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Good deal Cuba is next. About time that 3rd world garbage dump gets cleaned up.

Another defeat looming for trump!!

58 minutes ago, riclag said:

The topic here is Cuba ,an actual authoritarian communist regime that has crushed dissent for decades, executed or imprisoned thousands of its own citizens

Well captain America, USA still beat Cuba when it come to incarceration and there is likely a reason that world dont understand why you still trust your supreme leader but if the dude you elected dont have the balls to come clean or what he, and his compadres, are hiding will have such a devastating impact on the only thing sacred in US they have to use the distraction a little war here and there will bring isnt it time for a reality check. The world is waiting for a change

Daddy Vlad is not going to give permission to take Cuba without getting Ukraine and/or Poland in exchange. Trump is not attacking anyone.

1 minute ago, Kandinski said:

Well captain America, USA still beat Cuba when it come to incarceration and there is likely a reason that world dont understand why you still trust your supreme leader but if the dude you elected dont have the balls to come clean or what he, and his compadres, are hiding will have such a devastating impact on the only thing sacred in US they have to use the distraction a little war here and there will bring isnt it time for a reality check. The world is waiting for a change

2 more years & 4 more from from either Rubio or Vance. Americans are fed up with far leftist dreams of 100 years & 100 million deaths attributed to far leftism.

Cuba has ‘always posed a national security threat'

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Americans are fed up with far leftist dreams of 100 years & 100 million deaths attributed to far leftism.

Is that why Trump's approval rate is way under water?

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Is that why Trump's approval rate is way under water?

I think riclag is lonely, and that's why he's starting threads like crazy where he debates himself.

Blocking every single poster that isn't MAGA has consequences.🤣

American author Chris Hedges writes: “Violence does not generate peace. It generates violence.

“If there is one lesson we should have learned in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya, it is that regime change spawns Frankensteinian monsters of our own making.”

The American leader is meant to be a unifier, a strong and soothing presence in the world. Trump is an anarchic toddler, constantly causing upheaval across the globe, transgressing and remaking everything in his helter-skelter image. He has no interest in fireside chats; he wants to set fires.

He’s more about droit du seigneur than noblesse oblige. He feels entitled to whatever he wants, from Greenland to Canada to the Kennedy Center to a Nobel Prize he didn’t win. Unlike previous presidents, he isn’t countering Russia; he’s catering to it. He disparaged the NATO troops who died for us in Afghanistan and belittled our nicest neighbor, claiming that “Canada lives because of the United States.”

Respected academic Professor

Jeffrey Sachs says said Trump, with his unlawful actions, has positioned the US as a “global thug”. So who is going to stop the global thug?

Russia is knee-deep in its invasion of Ukraine. Does it hold any moral authority to admonish Trump over Venezuela? Iran? Congress sure won't.

Trump promised to end American adventures overseas, and reel in the involvement in more overseas conflicts, yet in the past year it would appear he has done the exact opposite of that. Does this mean he's abandoning his base and is betraying the ideals of MAGA?

I'd be curious to look at a worldwide survey and see who the average world citizen is more afraid of at this point in time. Putin, Xi or Trump?

My guess it would be Trump, since he has shown himself to be a War President, a warmonger, unafraid to break the law, and unafraid to act without congressional approval. He just might be the most dangerous man on the planet at the moment. And it's very likely Miller and Vance are number two and three.

55 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

American author Chris Hedges writes: “Violence does not generate peace. It generates violence.

Violence generated peace after WW2.

39 minutes ago, TedG said:

Violence generated peace after WW2.

While the end of World War II successfully prevented another catastrophic global conflict, "peace" was not universally achieved. The mechanics of how this violence generated peace—and where it failed—can be categorized into four main factors:

1. The Doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD)

2. Institutions and Global Governance

3. Decolonization and Regional Conflicts

4. Modern Vulnerabilities

There seems to be a widely held view online that wars can only end with violence, or that peace is caused by violence. On the face of it, this view is illogical. Basic logic tells us that adding more of one thing (violence) cannot lead to its opposite (peace).

In proof of their view, many online cite World War 2, and say that it was only the total annihilation of Germany and Japan that led to peace. Therefore, violence causes peace.

This idea is wrong for a number of ahistoric reasons. Firstly, it's in the title. World War 2 was the second one. If total annihilation leads to peace then WW1 should have led to peace. WW1 was a catastrophic war that annihilated an entire generation, left Germany and the axis in ruins and led to their full capitulation to the allies. But! It did not lead to peace at all.

People seem to be very confused about how peace is created. Throughout most of human history, the annihilation of the enemy and their surrender led to MORE WAR later down the track. Within a generation, the war would begin again. This is exactly what happened with WW2, but it also covers the various other historical wars in Europe (eg France and England being at war for hundreds of years on and off).

I believe that our history classes have completely failed us, because they teach us about war rather than peace processes.

After WW2, it was the formation of the UN and the Benelux agreements (early precursors to the EU) that created peace in Europe. The reason peace failed after WW1 was that the League of Nations did not include Germany.

The EU, UN and Benelux were institutions that allowed countries to talk to each other in back channels to avoid war. In the EU example, they also established some of the benchmark criteria for peace:

1. Economic codependency, particularly for the things needed to make war (steel, energy, etc)

2. Mass migration between countries, causing social and cultural exchange. E.g. Erasmus program where millions of Europeans exchange countries forming lasting friendships.

3. Organisation's superstructures - regional governments can supersede national government and therefore create a larger unified identity. This aligns perfectly with social psychology, which teaches us we love our own "category" but that categories are invented. E.g. A German can now identify as a European Citizen, rather than just a German national.

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4 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

While the end of World War II successfully prevented another catastrophic global conflict, "peace" was not universally achieved. The mechanics of how this violence generated peace—and where it failed—can be categorized into four main factors:

1. The Doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD)

2. Institutions and Global Governance

3. Decolonization and Regional Conflicts

4. Modern Vulnerabilities

You are delusional if you believe universal peace can be achieved. There will always be back actors in the world.

24 minutes ago, TedG said:

You are delusional if you believe universal peace can be achieved. There will always be back actors in the world.

can you read !!!!!!! from post "peace" was not universally achieved.

12 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

The Yanks Can't fight there way out of a wet paper bag unless they get help from Coalition forces usually from the UK. As seen in there latest shocker against Iran outwitted and clueless. The only good thing the Yanks do is talk a good War.

Indeed. Although generally think the place is great and have American friends, as far as war goes they are about as much use as tits on a kipper. Until your country gets invaded and your loved ones are threatened, you don’t know what it’s about.

Yanks have always been taught in their history, ‘we saved you’ etc. Meaning Britain and Europe. NO YOU <deleted> DID NOT! Donkeys coming in at the last minute. WWII was Russia and Britain with some seppo action at the end.

8 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I think riclag is lonely, and that's why he's starting threads like crazy where he debates himself.

You're not really one who should talk about those sort of things.

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Yanks have always been taught in their history, ‘we saved you’ etc. Meaning Britain and Europe. NO YOU <deleted> DID NOT! Donkeys coming in at the last minute. WWII was Russia and Britain with some seppo action at the end.

We did save you.

14 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

The Yanks Can't fight there way out of a wet paper bag unless they get help from Coalition forces usually from the UK. As seen in there latest shocker against Iran outwitted and clueless. The only good thing the Yanks do is talk a good War.

Perhaps the USA and the UK could go one-on-one, with the winner taking everything.

9 hours ago, BLMFem said:

I think riclag is lonely, and that's why he's starting threads like crazy where he debates himself.

Blocking every single poster that isn't MAGA has consequences.🤣

This is what I saw this morning:

16 hours ago, ArchieBunker said:

Good deal Cuba is next. About time that 3rd world garbage dump gets cleaned up.

On 5/24/2026 at 9:04 AM, davb said:

Abraham Lincoln was the best wartime president the US has ever had. Like Trump with Iran, he faced cabal of evil running the South who didn't care about the lack of popular support.

Instead of backing down because "Oh no, school girls get killed", Lincoln unleashed the psychotic General William Tecumseh Sherman who marched his troops across Georgia, killing and burning all the things, and then did it some more in South Carolina.

Total War until not much left, then Total Victory (hard on civilians).

The IRGC doesn't care that their people are now bankrupt, and was willing to let them get minorly bombed by the oh-so-careful US forces. They simply had to wait it out, which they did, and now are victorious. Their people are much poorer, but they get their billions back.

So who's next? Cuba would be a good move. They are terrible to their people and, without Venezuelan support, are reeling economically. No gas to run their 1950s era Soviet cars. Turn loose economic assassin Scott Bessent on them for a few months, then do an "extraction" of some of their leaders.

In the meantime, we can enjoy the destruction of OPEC, and cheaper gas will be available soon. Good enough for government work.

Your so so.....

brave Dave !

6 hours ago, Effective altruism said:

We did save you.

"We"?

Goodness, I didn't know you were so old. Hit the beaches of Normandy, did you?

I'd hate to think your comment is just valor stealing.

Real warriors and patriots fight. Chickenhawks take credit.