June 28Jun 28 Donald Trump's $10 billion defamation lawsuit against the BBC has entered a contentious new phase after the broadcaster asked a Florida court to compel the president to hand over records from the period surrounding the January 6 Capitol attack.The move threatens to widen what began as a dispute over a television report into a broader legal battle over Trump's actions and communications following the 2020 US presidential election.Broad Discovery Request Raises StakesLawyers for the BBC have requested Trump's telephone logs, calendars, schedules and diaries covering the period from November 3, 2020, to January 20, 2021.The broadcaster is also seeking details of communications relating to the "Stop the Steal" rally, including discussions before, during and after the events of January 6. The requests form part of the evidence-gathering process known as discovery.Trump Pushes BackTrump's lawsuit centres on a BBC Panorama programme that alleges misleadingly edited footage of his January 6 speech, causing viewers to believe he encouraged supporters to storm the US Capitol.His legal team argues the broadcaster is attempting to turn a defamation case into a wider examination of the Capitol riot. Trump's lawyer has told the court that the BBC is effectively trying to "put the president on trial" over January 6 rather than address the specific claims about the programme's editing.Legal Fight Set to IntensifyThe BBC has defended its discovery requests, arguing they are relevant to the issues raised by Trump's claims and necessary to prepare its defence.The dispute is expected to generate months of legal arguments over what evidence must be disclosed and how broadly the case should be examined. Such discovery battles are often among the most fiercely contested stages of high-profile civil litigation.Long Road to TrialThe case is not expected to reach a courtroom until February 2027, leaving both sides facing an extended period of procedural hearings and evidence disputes.With billions of dollars at stake and the events of January 6 once again under legal scrutiny, the lawsuit is shaping up to be one of the most closely watched media cases involving the US president. Whether the court grants the BBC's sweeping discovery request could prove a pivotal early test in the battle ahead.BBC turns up heat on Trump over Jan 6 phone records and diaries in courtroom demand
June 28Jun 28 Popular Post Yet another frivolous lawsuit, Trump should pay the damages for inciting this riot.
June 28Jun 28 5 minutes ago, Real Name Hidden said:Yet another frivolous lawsuit, Trump should pay the damages for inciting this riot.I more or less agree with the frivolous part and agree he holds a big part of blame for that riot.Having said that, and I wish the BBC all the luck with this, Trump's lawyer has a pretty good point. The BBC is trying to avoid dealing directly with the main statement of claim. And it's pretty straightforward, the BBC has apologised for it and taken responsibility publicly. So Trump has a good case. It's not worth billions - that's crazy - but the BBC will fight an uphill battle IMHO. They could switch arguments that it was a subcontractor that produced it, and so they (BBC) should be held at arms-length distance for blame but i doubt that would fly.
June 28Jun 28 10 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:I more or less agree with the frivolous part and agree he holds a big part of blame for that riot.Having said that, and I wish the BBC all the luck with this, Trump's lawyer has a pretty good point. The BBC is trying to avoid dealing directly with the main statement of claim. And it's pretty straightforward, the BBC has apologised for it and taken responsibility publicly. So Trump has a good case. It's not worth billions - that's crazy - but the BBC will fight an uphill battle IMHO. They could switch arguments that it was a subcontractor that produced it, and so they (BBC) should be held at arms-length distance for blame but i doubt that would fly.I think their main argument is, that trump suffered no damage
June 28Jun 28 16 minutes ago, stevenl said:I think their main argument is, that trump suffered no damageI think that's pretty hard to prove "no" damage. Smallish audience but he could till have a case.
June 28Jun 28 Popular Post Lawfare, Trump's favourite strategy. Worked in real estate, casinos, and in govt. Pitiful excuse for a human being.
June 28Jun 28 Popular Post 1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:I think that's pretty hard to prove "no" damage. Smallish audience but he could till have a case.They don't have to prove it, trump has to prove he suffered damage.
June 28Jun 28 10 minutes ago, stevenl said:They don't have to prove it, trump has to prove he suffered damage.You could be correct, but my understanding of British Libel Law, is that it differs slightly from criminal justice system (innocent until proven guilty).So when a libel claim is launched, the alleged 'libeler' is, effectively, on the back foot. They must prove (among others), in their defence of what 'they' said, published or broadcast, that it was either 'truth', 'fair comment', 'absence of malice' and there are a couple of other defences, I forget all off them. In other words, Trump doesn't have to prove he was defamed or damaged by the badly juxtaposed sound bites and images that followed (the riot), BBC has to prove it did not set out to defame him. (absence of malice comes close to a defence - maybe fair comment, but doubtful).
June 28Jun 28 Popular Post 23 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:my understanding of British Libel Law, is that it differs slightly from criminal justice system (innocent until proven guilty).The case has nothing to do with UK law as the case is being undertaken in the US.
June 28Jun 28 Popular Post BBC has filed motion to dismiss the principal reason is that the case does not meet the basic requirements to file a defamation case in Florida.The case SHOULD have been filed on UK but team Trump only found out about the Panorama doco edit past the one-year statute of limitations for defamation. in UK. Edited June 28Jun 28 by JerryM
June 28Jun 28 Don't worry BBC, TACO. Especially when he might have to disclose something he doesn't want to be public. I can't believe he expected the BBC to roll over and play dead like CBS did. Nobody seems to be listening to him anymore. Was it last week he threatened 100% tariffs and was essentially ignored? Edited June 28Jun 28 by gargamon
June 28Jun 28 23 minutes ago, JerryM said:BBC has filed motion to dismiss the principal reason is that the case does not meet the basic requirements to file a defamation case in Florida.The case SHOULD have been filed on UK but team Trump only found out about the Panorama doco edit past the one-year statute of limitations for defamation. in UK.OK. I thought it was in the UK. Then forget what I said. Completely different system. My bad.
June 28Jun 28 1 hour ago, Why bother said:The case has nothing to do with UK law as the case is being undertaken in the US.OK thanks. Thought is was UK. I would delete it but it's too late. Thanks for putting it right.
July 22Jul 22 US judge rejects Trump's bid to block BBC subpoenas in $10 billion suithttps://www.luxtimes.lu/world/trump-loses-bid-to-block-bbc-subpoenas-in-10bn-suit/159032870.htmlA judge has denied President Donald Trump’s attempt to block dozens of subpoenas sent to members of his inner circle by the British Broadcasting Corp. as part of its defense against his $10 billion (€8.8 billion) defamation suit over a documentary related to his conduct on 6 January 2021.The subpoenas are reasonable given the breadth of Trump’s lawsuit, though the information sought by the BBC may need to be narrowed, US Magistrate Judge Enjoliqué Lett said at a hearing in Miami Tuesday. The judge also granted the BBC’s request to force Trump’s company to respond to a subpoena seeking a wide array of financial documents.Trump sued in December over the BBC’s use of a misleading edit of a fiery speech he made to his supporters shortly before a mob attacked the Capitol five and a half years ago, making it appear that he’d made a direct call for violence. The BBC apologized in November but failed to prevent Trump’s suit.President must show he did not incite riotThe BBC argued the subpoenas to Trump’s inner circle, cabinet and federal agencies will provide evidence of Trump’s state of mind and intent around his speech that day, arguing that the president must now show that he did not incite the riot in order to prove the BBC defamed him by allegedly implying he had done so.
July 22Jul 22 The BBC asked for financial records in order to check Trump's lame claim that he was financially hurt by the BBC program. That's smart! 😀Yahoo NewsJudge rules Trump must hand over records sought by BBC in...The judge grants a motion to compel the release of files held by the Donald J Trump Revocable Trust.
July 23Jul 23 Author Trump Team Changes CourseDuring the latest hearing, Trump's lawyer, Al Brito, indicated the legal strategy had shifted. He said an amended complaint would narrow the damages sought and abandon claims relating to harm to Trump's wider business brand.The move could reduce the scope of the case and potentially limit the financial disclosures the BBC is seeking. However, the broadcaster argues the original claims placed Trump's finances directly at issue.BBC Turns Up the PressureThe corporation is also accusing Trump's legal team of delaying efforts to schedule the President's deposition. It continues to seek dismissal of the lawsuit, arguing its American audience is far smaller than Trump has claimed.In another victory for the broadcaster, Trump's lawyers recently agreed to remove the BBC's commercial subsidiaries from the case after accepting they had no involvement in producing or distributing the documentary.Legal Battles ContinueJudge Lett has also authorised the BBC to subpoena members of Trump's inner circle as it explores events surrounding the Capitol riot and the President's actions before the violence unfolded.Trump’s revenge lawsuit just hit a snag – and the BBC knows how to capitalise
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