Rugby Rules And Strategy

[TokyoT]

steveromagnio – very helpful. And I think I am mostly in the clear now I think, the main points being one cannot come around the side (which I was aware of before but was not really clear on the reason why), and the only person allowed to directly take the ball is the tackling player.

Thanks,

TT

[Donnyboy]

steveromagnio – very helpful. And I think I am mostly in the clear now I think, the main points being one cannot come around the side (which I was aware of before but was not really clear on the reason why), and the only person allowed to directly take the ball is the tackling player.

Thanks,

TT

not necessarily so. If the ball carrier is tackled to the ground, and then releases the ball, he can get on his feet, and then pick up the ball and go, as the tackler is required to roll away, and then get on his feet as well to win the ball. (Very difficult to do as many players will be coming in to win the ball.)

Usually happens when there is a kick deep into opposition territory.

clear as mud?

[Pink Mist]

steve

the kiwis have been the greatest exploiters of the rules in modern rugby history, or by exploit do I mean cheat or bend, up to you.

they allways claimed to be a small nation, yet can recruit a team from the entire south pacific region.

[steveromagnino]

steve

the kiwis have been the greatest exploiters of the rules in modern rugby history, or by exploit do I mean cheat or bend, up to you.

they allways claimed to be a small nation, yet can recruit a team from the entire south pacific region.

You must be an Aussie :_)

I think it is very generous that NZ would be willing to offer some of our Pacific Island neighbours the chance to play for the black jersey; :-)

New Zealand has supplied 47 players spread across ten different countries: 22 in the NZ squad, 12 in the Samoan squad, four for Japan, three for Italy and one each for England, Fiji, Ireland, Tonga, USA and Wales. SA is second with 44. In other words, we give more than we take :-)

The Italian squad contains players from eight different countries of origin: 14 Italians, seven Argentinians, three Kiwis, two South Africans and one each from Canada, England, Fiji and France, making them the least national for the national team.

New Zealand is 73% NZ-born. Of the eight born outside New Zealand, five were born in Samoa (Jerry Collins, Chris Masoe, Mils Muliaina, Rodney So'oialo and Isaia Toeava), two in Fiji (Josevata Rokocoko and Sitiveni Sivivatu) and one in Tonga (Sione Lauaki). None of these players were "poached" for their rugby playing ability. Most came to New Zealand with their families when they were very young and have been through the public school system. The closest to being "poached" would be Sivivatu, who came to New Zealand in his later teens.

As an Aucklander, I am proud to say 8 players in the RWC were born in Auckland, and of those only two are in the New Zealand team (Ali Williams and Doug Howlett, who went to the same school as me)! The others are: Tanielu Fuga (Samoa), Census Johnston (Samoa), Leo Lafaiali'i (Samoa), Gavin Williams (Samoa), Ephraim Taukafa (Tonga) and Kaine Robertson (Italy).

Auckland is the biggest pacific island city in the world by population ya know.

If you look at club rugby in the UK, it would be a very sad state indeed if they didn't have the Kiwis to bolster their numbers; like in sailing, NZers go all around the world and many end up winning glory for non Kiwi teams. E.g. Alinghi (effectively a Kiwi team), Oracle (effectively a Kiwi team) and even Desafio (run by a Kiwi). hel_l the only other semi finalist was Prada which was effectively Australian, given that like in Rugby the Italians are total rubbish.

No need to thank the generosity of New Zealand for sharing talent. Better than shearing talent; another unsung skill of South islanders 5555555555555.

Let's look at place of birth in RWC 2003...Out of the entire squad of 30+ players New Zealand had 5 players born outside New Zealand ( one was an Aussie) which was just one more than England who had 4 players born outside England. Australia had 3, Ireland 6, Wales 4, Scotland 10.

No question that what the Super 12/14 and other pro rugby has done to the Pacific Islands is nothing short of tragic; don't ever see SANZAR complaining about it; Australia South Africa and NZ are all happy to keep a greater share of the media revenue without having to share it with the Pacific Islanders.

Typical bluster from an aussie 55555555555

[Donnyboy]

indeed, Auckland has a huge pacific island population, and it will continue to provide top level rugby players, the future is bright for NZ Rugby.

nice work stevero

[Boksida]

When the ball is still in the ruck (in front of the hindmost feet I think is the test, and still on the ground)

I was once told by a ref that the ball can be considered out of the ruck "when a bird can shit on it".

I was able to understand it after that.

[steveromagnino]

When the ball is still in the ruck (in front of the hindmost feet I think is the test, and still on the ground)

I was once told by a ref that the ball can be considered out of the ruck "when a bird can shit on it".

I was able to understand it after that.

why would some sheila be near the ruck, why would she want to take a dump and why isn't she back in the clubhouse sorting out the spread?

As in... (for Bronco's benefit):

Ud lauke to thunk thu ludies for thu spread. Ut wus a game of two halves. Three churs for the lads from marust... hip hooray hip hooray hip horay...and wun for thu ruf. horay.

[Donnyboy]

[miltonbentley]

Posted on wrong thread

Edited September 13, 2007 by miltonbentley

[Donnyboy]

This Stragetgy may help de-power the front row at scrum time. NB, shot of 2 NH side teams.

[moodysufc]

A bit off topic but are there any teams or league in Thailand? Either to watch of play in??

[Donnyboy]

A bit off topic but are there any teams or league in Thailand? Either to watch of play in??

Im sure Bangkok has a few teams that play. Where are you?

[Donnyboy]

steveromagnio – very helpful. And I think I am mostly in the clear now I think, the main points being one cannot come around the side (which I was aware of before but was not really clear on the reason why), and the only person allowed to directly take the ball is the tackling player.

Thanks,

TT

heres a video explaining the rules of the ruck here