hibro Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 This is quite common on towns/cities in central Thailand however does it have a meaning? Thai friends say no falung friends say it must have a meaning. Can you help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkelbell Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 This is quite common on towns/cities in central Thailand however does it have a meaning?Thai friends say no falung friends say it must have a meaning. Can you help. ''buri" = " mueng" in Thai, means city or town. 'buri' is used when it calls for a more formality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierra01 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 My misses says it means town or city as well, more commonly used in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macb Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 You got it right folks and here is the confirmation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Buri_Province BURI also means cigarette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxexile Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 interesting to note that there are many english towns using a similar word as part of the name , e.g. salisbury , canterbury etc. although i doubt if there is any linguistic connection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleg_Rus Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) it is. as well as other foreign words that came to thai language. There are some words in thai that sound very similar in russian too (I would mind to give a sample - its rude words) Edited December 4, 2007 by Oleg_Rus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Jean Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 So "min buri" would mean "Smelly city". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jEFFREYk44 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 maybe menh buri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutnyod Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It's also my most favoured piece from Jethro Tull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeaceBlondie Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Somehow it reminds me of Guatemala, where each province or 'departamento' ends in the place name "-tenango" and the place way, way up in the mountains is called "Huehuetenango." I thought they also had a place called "Tenangotenango," which might translate as "Place-place." Is there a place in Thailand called Buriburi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutsiwarrior Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Somehow it reminds me of Guatemala, where each province or 'departamento' ends in the place name "-tenango" and the place way, way up in the mountains is called "Huehuetenango." I thought they also had a place called "Tenangotenango," which might translate as "Place-place."Is there a place in Thailand called Buriburi? yeah...there's a place in the Central Highlands called Chichicastenango where they remember Marlon Brando from "Last Tango in..." Chichi useta be a very spiritual place...was good to be very chaa - chaa in Chii Chii... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_r Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 You got it right folks and here is the confirmationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Buri_Province BURI also means cigarette So... Etymologically speaking, that makes Singburi the same place as Singapore. Interesting to know. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Buri_Province The word Sing originates from the Sanskrit word Singh meaning lion, and the word buri from Sanskrit Puri meaning town or city. Hence the name of the province literally means City of Lion. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore Singapore's name was derived from the words Simha and Pura, while Simha meaning lion and Pura meaning city, giving Singapore the name "Lion City". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYaiEric Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It's also my most favoured piece from Jethro Tull Jethro Tull? You must be Living in the Past ! (pun intended ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimsKnight Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 You got it right folks and here is the confirmationhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Buri_Province BURI also means cigarette So... Etymologically speaking, that makes Singburi the same place as Singapore. Interesting to know. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_Buri_Province The word Sing originates from the Sanskrit word Singh meaning lion, and the word buri from Sanskrit Puri meaning town or city. Hence the name of the province literally means City of Lion. From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore Singapore's name was derived from the words Simha and Pura, while Simha meaning lion and Pura meaning city, giving Singapore the name "Lion City". Ahh, so thats why there's a lion on every Singha beer bottle! Every day is a learning day with thai visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutnyod Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Is there a place in Thailand called Buriburi? Oh c'mon! That would be a kind of coat now, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 interesting to note that there are many english towns using a similar word as part of the name , e.g. salisbury , canterbury etc.although i doubt if there is any linguistic connection Not directly connected, no. Richard W knows his etymologies: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...st&p=272021 The English 'bury', as well as 'borough' is connected to a Germanic word with the basic meaning of 'fortified town'. http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/borough/etymology.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Thai and European languages are from the same tree (Sanskrit?)- I believe that in many languages the words for Ma and Pa are very similar so would it be pushing the envelope too far to suppose that "buri" and "burg", "burgh" "borough", "bury" have the same origins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Thai is not an Indo-European language. Thai is a member of the Tai group of the Tai-Kadai language family. The Tai-Kadai languages are thought to have originated in what is now southern China, and some linguists have proposed links to the Austroasiatic, Austronesian, or Sino-Tibetan language families. It is true though, that Thai through religion and cultural contact has borrowed many words from Sanskrit and Pali, which are Indo-European languages, and that บุรี buri is one of these words. Richard W already discusses the same things I do below, in evidence of how the English word and the Thai word are not related, but here it is again: The origins of the word borough/bury are discussed here: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=borough It comes from a Proto-Indo-European word, bhrgh, meaning 'high'. The English cognate of 'buri' in Thai is found in 'police', 'policy' etc. The Proto Indo European root is *p(o)lH- according to the Online Etymology Dictionary. See http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=policy It bears mentioning that Sanskrit is just one of many languages in the Indo-European language family, it is not the original Indo-European language, which is referred to as 'Proto Indo-European' and is a hypothesis based on analysis of the data available from the different branches of the language tree. Sanskrit just happens to be the oldest one written down, which is why it is often used for reference and study purposes. Scholars have been working on comparing words in Sanskrit and Latin and the oldest Germanic sources that exist, in order to see how phonological change has occurred. That way they have been able to establish some regular patterns by which the pronunciation of words have changed, and this is how they can present evidence for connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Somehow it reminds me of Guatemala, where each province or 'departamento' ends in the place name "-tenango" and the place way, way up in the mountains is called "Huehuetenango." I thought they also had a place called "Tenangotenango," which might translate as "Place-place."Is there a place in Thailand called Buriburi? like Bury in UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 (edited) Thai is not an Indo-European language. Thai is a member of the Tai group of the Tai-Kadai language family. The Tai-Kadai languages are thought to have originated in what is now southern China, and some linguists have proposed links to the Austroasiatic, Austronesian, or Sino-Tibetan language families. It is true though, that Thai through religion and cultural contact has borrowed many words from Sanskrit and Pali, which are Indo-European languages, and that บุรี buri is one of these words. Richard W already discusses the same things I do below, in evidence of how the English word and the Thai word are not related, but here it is again: The origins of the word borough/bury are discussed here: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=borough It comes from a Proto-Indo-European word, bhrgh, meaning 'high'. The English cognate of 'buri' in Thai is found in 'police', 'policy' etc. The Proto Indo European root is *p(o)lH- according to the Online Etymology Dictionary. See http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=policy It bears mentioning that Sanskrit is just one of many languages in the Indo-European language family, it is not the original Indo-European language, which is referred to as 'Proto Indo-European' and is a hypothesis based on analysis of the data available from the different branches of the language tree. Sanskrit just happens to be the oldest one written down, which is why it is often used for reference and study purposes. Scholars have been working on comparing words in Sanskrit and Latin and the oldest Germanic sources that exist, in order to see how phonological change has occurred. That way they have been able to establish some regular patterns by which the pronunciation of words have changed, and this is how they can present evidence for connections. Yes... I should have suggested that the concept and as you say script are the same root ont the language. So is not the Thai word Buri from the the religious - Sanskrit branch then? As in English a lot of words have roots in Latin but have no connection with the Roman occupation? Edited January 9, 2008 by wilko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I am not sure how the word was introduced in Thailand, but it's an interesting question. Hopefully someone who knows more will find this thread and the time to answer. Moved to the Language forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Bury in Danelaw (Northern England) refers to a fortification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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