Electric Fence Killed A Cow

[Iambabababor]

A neighbour in my village erected an electric fence to prevent wandering cows eating his vegetables. But instead of a 12 volt fence it was connected directly to the mains electric, -220V,

A cow wandered by this morning, reached over for some vegetables and was electrocuted. It could so easily have been a child playing football or something similar.

There was no contrition -"the cow got what it deserved" was the claim.

The cows owner ignored my suggestion to go to the Police and has gone instead to discuss it with the village headman. Result currently unknown

If I had been directly involved I would have demanded massive compensation (the cow had a 4 day old calf) and a custodial sentence for the neighbour. But sadly the locals are frightened to death of officialdom, and "mai pen rai" generally rules here!

[Bpraim1]

Glad I didn't get drunk and piss on that fence.

[Bicko]

A neighbour in my village erected an electric fence to prevent wandering cows eating his vegetables. But instead of a 12 volt fence it was connected directly to the mains electric, -220V,

A cow wandered by this morning, reached over for some vegetables and was electrocuted. It could so easily have been a child playing football or something similar.

There was no contrition -"the cow got what it deserved" was the claim.

The cows owner ignored my suggestion to go to the Police and has gone instead to discuss it with the village headman. Result currently unknown

If I had been directly involved I would have demanded massive compensation (the cow had a 4 day old calf) and a custodial sentence for the neighbour. But sadly the locals are frightened to death of officialdom, and "mai pen rai" generally rules here!

Unbelievable the things people do. I wonder what the reaction would have been by the vegetable grower if one of his own kids or his missus got on the fence.

[Lickey]

Lamb, if you do hear of a result from the village headsman, please let us know, cos im not really sure what their job is, our Headsman comes to Mrs salon for hair dye, manicure & pedicure, sometimes a sauna, Ive asked the mrs what he does for the village, her answer, I dont know darling!!! so i told her, he could go and sit with Police all day, see 4 underage kids on a motorbike,no helmets ect and just read the paper like the police do? she say, im not sure what he do but he gets good money for it!! so im thinking he will just laugh at a dead cow and a 230v electric fence, but pray tell us if he does intervene, Cheers, Lickey..

[thedi]

A neighbour in my village erected an electric fence to prevent wandering cows eating his vegetables. But instead of a 12 volt fence it was connected directly to the mains electric, -220V

A cow fence works with brief, high voltage impulses between 2'000V and 10'000V. see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_fence

To connect it directly to 220V can be deadly.

Regards

Thedi

[Iambabababor]

It seems others also recommended involving the police and I understand they are now investigating.

[johnh101]

I only recently managed to stop my father in law doing the same thing around the house. His idea was that it would only be on at night and if anyone tries to break in...............Som Nam Na !

[slapout]

This is probably the the same man who is moonlighting for the local building contractor as an electrication.

[Iambabababor]

Truly Amazing but Not Unexpected

The Police held a meeting of interested parties and told the injured party that it was up to him whether to press charges.

The cow's owner decided to do nothing (mai pen rai!) reasoning that if he demanded punishment and compensation, he would in return receive bad luck.

So he loses a cow and mother to her young calf, and receives a few baht for selling off the meat

Thais are a very strange breed!

[Gary A]

That happened in our village. Someone was stealing baby pigs so the owner wired the place. He got the thief. Killed him. Now he is paying the thief's family 150,000 baht.

[Dave the Dude]

our Headsman comes to Mrs salon for hair dye, manicure & pedicure, sometimes a sauna, Ive asked the mrs what he does for the village, her answer, I dont know darling!!! im not sure what he do but he gets good money for it!! Cheers, Lickey..

Hi all

Sorry for being slightly off-topic but who pays a headman of the village and what sort of money are we talking about? How is he elected/replaced?

Dave

[Lickey]

Ive just interogated the missus, salary is between 25/30k monthly, [taken from the local regesrtred buisness] and there is a voting system every 4 years for continuation or replacement, thats our village, Namsom, spose it will be different in many other provinces, Cheers, Lickey.

[Iambabababor]

Ive just interogated the missus, salary is between 25/30k monthly, [taken from the local regesrtred buisness] and there is a voting system every 4 years for continuation or replacement, thats our village, Namsom, spose it will be different in many other provinces, Cheers, Lickey.

I think you'll find its the Kamnan the gets around 25K. the Kamnan looks after the affairs of up to 1O villages. Each village has a headman (puyaibaan) and he gets around 5k a month. All are elected, although I believe the government were discussing allowing them to keep their jobs for life. I really cannot see that any of them are justified in this day and age! The amphur is capable of looking after village needs! A total waste of money.

On top of their salaries they receive backhanders and commissions. For example many villagers are illiterate, and when they want to buy somethng large such as a motorbike, they enlist the help of the headman. He arranges a commission for himself from the local dealer. When he arbitrates in a local dispute, he generally receives a "thank you".

[Iambabababor]

That happened in our village. Someone was stealing baby pigs so the owner wired the place. He got the thief. Killed him. Now he is paying the thief's family 150,000 baht.

Seems a rather small amount considering that the pigs owner clearly set out to kill the thief. But I suppose the fact that the dead man was a thief helped reduce the compensation. In most villages I would imagine that that sort of money could never be found in a lifetime.

What I wonder would have been the outcome if it had been a child who had been electrocuted and that child was only looking at the baby pigs>

[thedi]

In the (good) old time, the Phu Yai Baan (village headman) was the boss of the village.

Now, most of his duties were taken over of by the Amphor (district office) and OBT (Ongan Borihan suan Tambon). This was thought to reduce corruption (not very successful.)

The village headman is still responsible to keep peace in the village. He is the one who is contacted in any dispute: i.e. when an electric fence kills the cow of someone else. He organizes local festivities and his word has some value at the Amphor. Some Phu Yai Baan are quite active and look that the village is presentable. Luckilly we have such a Phu Yai Baan in our village now. The difference to the state before is flagrant.

He (very rarely a 'she') is elected every 4 years. He gets about 5'000 Baht a month and can nominate two helper (kon chuai) which are paid by the government as well.

Regards

Thedi

[Gary A]

Our Phu Yai Baan is useless. An a$$hole neighbor cooks charcoal at night and stinks up the whole neighborhood. My wife went to see the Phu Yai Baan several times and he promised to take care of it. NOTHING has been done.

[AYJAYDEE]

Truly Amazing but Not Unexpected

The Police held a meeting of interested parties and told the injured party that it was up to him whether to press charges.

The cow's owner decided to do nothing (mai pen rai!) reasoning that if he demanded punishment and compensation, he would in return receive bad luck.

So he loses a cow and mother to her young calf, and receives a few baht for selling off the meat

Thais are a very strange breed!

and they think we are the strange ones. but we choose to live in their culture.

[Iambabababor]

In UK villages there are Parish Councils. They are made up of volunteers from the village who generally ensure everything is OK. Any villager creating problems will be asked to tow the line. Any repairs to roads, street lighting etc are reported to the district council office.

So far as I know, there is no salary involved, although Parish Councillors are entitled to charge legitimate expenses.

Wouldn't work here in Thailand. No Thai does anything for nothing!

[Losangels]

And what do police in the villages do

[AYJAYDEE]

Our Phu Yai Baan is useless. An a$$hole neighbor cooks charcoal at night and stinks up the whole neighborhood. My wife went to see the Phu Yai Baan several times and he promised to take care of it. NOTHING has been done.

do you expect him to shut his charcoal process down at nite?

[AYJAYDEE]

In the (good) old time, the Phu Yai Baan (village headman) was the boss of the village.

Now, most of his duties were taken over of by the Amphor (district office) and OBT (Ongan Borihan suan Tambon). This was thought to reduce corruption (not very successful.)

The village headman is still responsible to keep peace in the village. He is the one who is contacted in any dispute: i.e. when an electric fence kills the cow of someone else. He organizes local festivities and his word has some value at the Amphor. Some Phu Yai Baan are quite active and look that the village is presentable. Luckilly we have such a Phu Yai Baan in our village now. The difference to the state before is flagrant.

He (very rarely a 'she') is elected every 4 years. He gets about 5'000 Baht a month and can nominate two helper (kon chuai) which are paid by the government as well.

Regards

Thedi

like you, we have a very active phuyaiban in our village and he takes care of details that the local tambon would never get around to. he had our village looking brilliant for the kings birthday. he instills a sense of villagwe pride that is a treat to see.

[AYJAYDEE]

Ive just interogated the missus, salary is between 25/30k monthly, [taken from the local regesrtred buisness] and there is a voting system every 4 years for continuation or replacement, thats our village, Namsom, spose it will be different in many other provinces, Cheers, Lickey.

I think you'll find its the Kamnan the gets around 25K. the Kamnan looks after the affairs of up to 1O villages. Each village has a headman (puyaibaan) and he gets around 5k a month. All are elected, although I believe the government were discussing allowing them to keep their jobs for life. I really cannot see that any of them are justified in this day and age! The amphur is capable of looking after village needs! A total waste of money.

On top of their salaries they receive backhanders and commissions. For example many villagers are illiterate, and when they want to buy somethng large such as a motorbike, they enlist the help of the headman. He arranges a commission for himself from the local dealer. When he arbitrates in a local dispute, he generally receives a "thank you".

not true in our village. he certainly earns his money here and takes care of details the tambon or amphur would never find the time or manpower to handle.

he instills a real sense of village pride and leads by example. well worth the money

[Iambabababor]

. he had our village looking brilliant for the kings birthday. he instills a sense of villagwe pride that is a treat to see.

What about the other 364 days?

And why for the Kings birthday - it wasn't as if he was visiting!

[AYJAYDEE]

. he had our village looking brilliant for the kings birthday. he instills a sense of villagwe pride that is a treat to see.

What about the other 364 days?

And why for the Kings birthday - it wasn't as if he was visiting!

he works hard for our village EVERY day. and if you need to ask the second question, any answer i can give you will be insufficient.

[Gary A]

Our Phu Yai Baan is useless. An a$$hole neighbor cooks charcoal at night and stinks up the whole neighborhood. My wife went to see the Phu Yai Baan several times and he promised to take care of it. NOTHING has been done.

do you expect him to shut his charcoal process down at nite?

He cooks the charcoal at night so no one can see the smoke. It is against village rules to make charcoal within the village, period. Charcoal ovens are VERY visible and obvious. I would have expected the charcoal oven to be destroyed.

[AYJAYDEE]

Our Phu Yai Baan is useless. An a$$hole neighbor cooks charcoal at night and stinks up the whole neighborhood. My wife went to see the Phu Yai Baan several times and he promised to take care of it. NOTHING has been done.

do you expect him to shut his charcoal process down at nite?

He cooks the charcoal at night so no one can see the smoke. It is against village rules to make charcoal within the village, period. Charcoal ovens are VERY visible and obvious. I would have expected the charcoal oven to be destroyed.

AHHHHHHHHHHH! i see. our village has no such rule as far as i know. perhaps he is a major contributor to the phuyaibans election campaign. welcome to thailand.

[Dave the Dude]

In UK villages there are Parish Councils.

So far as I know, there is no salary involved, although Parish Councillors are entitled to charge legitimate expenses.

Wouldn't work here in Thailand. No Thai does anything for nothing!

Hi

I used to live in 'Gods waiting room' Eastbourne and all the Councillors set up village' Twinning' schemes with other villages abroad that seemed to have nothing incommon with their UK twinned village.

A great Idea that achieved nothing, other than an excuse for the said officials to have free trips paid by council funds.

Dave

[Gary A]

Our Phu Yai Baan is useless. An a$$hole neighbor cooks charcoal at night and stinks up the whole neighborhood. My wife went to see the Phu Yai Baan several times and he promised to take care of it. NOTHING has been done.

do you expect him to shut his charcoal process down at nite?

He cooks the charcoal at night so no one can see the smoke. It is against village rules to make charcoal within the village, period. Charcoal ovens are VERY visible and obvious. I would have expected the charcoal oven to be destroyed.

AHHHHHHHHHHH! i see. our village has no such rule as far as i know. perhaps he is a major contributor to the phuyaibans election campaign. welcome to thailand.

One night I came home after having too much to drink. There was a charcoal cooker near our house. The smoke was blowing directly toward our house. I went to my workshop and got a big heavy pipe. I walked over and destroyed the oven. Knocked big holes in it. They got the idea and never made charcoal there again. My wife was worried that there may be problems but apparently no one saw me do it. I'd really like to put a can of gunpowder in the other a$$holes oven, then grin when it blew up.

[Bpraim1]

I sprayed water on my neighbours charcoal pit. As we were trying to work in my yard and I had had enough.

She just stood in aaawww as I used te garden hose to end our suffering. Not one word was said, and not another fire was lite, let see what happens when I get back tomorrow.

[Issangeorge]

The Phu Yai Baan, in my village is anything but rich. He seems to keep the village going. If there are a lot of Mosquitoes he has the village sprayed for them, he looks after festivals and settles local disputes if possible. Our village has no police station, so we see very little of them, which is a good thing. As for using 220 volt for a cow fence, last year I was at a fish farm where they had a cow fence along a canal. There were children playing in the canal and all of a sudden there was a great commotion. It turned out one child touched the electric fence and could not let go, his friend tried to pull him off and also got zapped. Someone had the presence of mind to turn off the electricity and they got the boys out of the water performed CPR and took them to the hospital and miraculously they are both okay with no after effects. The fence is now gone. Issangeorge.