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Hi.

am considering to install a Turbo or Supercharger to my gasoline Fortuner. It feels a little bit underpowered

Does anyone have any experience of doing it ?

I just installed NGV gas and the company that installed it said that it should be no problem to run a turbo/supercharged engine at gas....

All experience and ideas are welcome.

Thanks in advance

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you will need a new manifold, some piping and of course software to make the car run right.

Have you installed it? or know anyone who has done it?

The easiest, fastest, and most effective method is to install a 'Sprint Booster' unit to your electronic gas pedal. Just plug-and-drive in less than one minute, then you'll get more power, but same gas consumption.

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When I was installing LPG the company was very apprehensive about turbo engines, and injection kit is nearly the same for both kinds of gas, afaik.

I had to drop the idea and settle for less power in favour of reliability.

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Ok this guy (Thai) installed a supercharger on his Fortuner.

!/4 mile sprint still just 13 seconds, which is a bit slow after reading what he all did.

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Have a good time, i am looking for a supercharger for me Bimmer.

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Whats currently the range you get out of 1 tank NGV?

Don't know the properties of NGV, but turbo charging LPG powered cars is a blast :o

LPG has an octane of over 110, making extremely high boost pressures possible. You can easily compensate for the lower energy content of LPG compared to petrol!

----Edit---

Just found out the octane of NGV is even higher at 130!

One word of warning, optimizing boost for NGV, will wreck your engine in no time if running on petrol, hence the question of how much range you get out of one filling...

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Yes, but I doubt anyone would opt for a system that works only on NGV/LPG. Petrol is still a must, if only for emergencies.

Also injection LPG system needs warm liquids to get runnning, so the car starts on petrol. I asked the shop about it - there was nothing they could do.

I do understand the feeling of sluggishness in petrol Fortuner - it has only 160+ hp, just a bit more than 2l Civic, and it has an extra ton in weight.

Posted
you will need a new manifold, some piping and of course software to make the car run right.

Have you installed it? or know anyone who has done it?

The easiest, fastest, and most effective method is to install a 'Sprint Booster' unit to your electronic gas pedal. Just plug-and-drive in less than one minute, then you'll get more power, but same gas consumption.

All Sprintbooster does is just fool the throttle body sensor to open it up quickly. So basically if you open your throttle at 20% before it will now be 40%. So base on that feeling the end user just thinks that the car is moving and in return sees a decrease of gas milleage because of the amount of the throttle angle is opened.

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you will need a new manifold, some piping and of course software to make the car run right.

Have you installed it? or know anyone who has done it?

No I have never installed one, but however you will definitely need to fabricate a new manifold out there since I have yet to see someone making a mass production of it. Probably its because of demand. I think you are probably better off doing an engine transplant than waste that money on R&D and guessing what works and what doesnt.

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I do understand the feeling of sluggishness in petrol Fortuner - it has only 160+ hp, just a bit more than 2l Civic, and it has an extra ton in weight.

The average fortuner is pretty slow off the mark, but on the fly, they are pretty quick. I've followed one in my civic 2.0 up to 160 km/h. Managed to pass him but it took a while. They have loads of torque and this seems to overcome the weight disadvantage to some degree.

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Whats currently the range you get out of 1 tank NGV?

Don't know the properties of NGV, but turbo charging LPG powered cars is a blast :o

LPG has an octane of over 110, making extremely high boost pressures possible. You can easily compensate for the lower energy content of LPG compared to petrol!

----Edit---

Just found out the octane of NGV is even higher at 130!

One word of warning, optimizing boost for NGV, will wreck your engine in no time if running on petrol, hence the question of how much range you get out of one filling...

The bad thing about NGV is the range.. The SO garage told me that the range should be about 200km but the first tank only reached for 120km. it also felt like I lost a lot of horsepower, so I went back to the garage and they found nothing wrong but advised me to install a ecu unit for 3500 bath that would solve the problem of power lost... and it actually did. now the power is the same if I switch from gas to gasoline and back.

However, the savings are huge. running on gasoline the costs per 10 km is between 60-80 bath (1,5-2 liter per 10km)

The cost with gas was 134 bath for 110 km. Its about 12.2 bath per 10km...

I have a 100 liter tank and the maximum you can fill it is 20kg NGV gas. its 8,50 per kg now.

It will be very interesting to see the range after installing the new gas ecu unit.

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Ok this guy (Thai) installed a supercharger on his Fortuner.

!/4 mile sprint still just 13 seconds, which is a bit slow after reading what he all did.

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Have a good time, i am looking for a supercharger for me Bimmer.

A quarter mile in 13 seconds? That's VERY fast. During the sixties very few of the muscle cars could do a quarter in 13 seconds.

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I do understand the feeling of sluggishness in petrol Fortuner - it has only 160+ hp, just a bit more than 2l Civic, and it has an extra ton in weight.

The average fortuner is pretty slow off the mark, but on the fly, they are pretty quick. I've followed one in my civic 2.0 up to 160 km/h. Managed to pass him but it took a while. They have loads of torque and this seems to overcome the weight disadvantage to some degree.

Ah, but you talking about diesels with 360Nm of torque. Petrol version only has 220Nm or so.

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