Pepe' Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 One TV member just stated this in the Road rage thread. Is it accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Probably taken from old nationmaster data that hasn't been updated in quite a few years: Nationmaster per capita murder rates . Please be sure to scroll down to the bottom and note the source: SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe' Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 Thanx... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2396 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Probably taken from old nationmaster data that hasn't been updated in quite a few years: Nationmaster per capita murder rates . Please be sure to scroll down to the bottom and note the source: SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention) Thailand worse than USA? Say it isn't so. I think we need a listing of murder by firearms. That might put the USA back on top again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burman Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I very much doubt it. Wouldn't shock me if their wasn't more shootings and attempted murders in the US though, but with better emergency care and everything else much less of them turn into murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 please note that murder stats in Thailand include deaths in the south arising from terrorist actions.This skews the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Nationmaster murder stats are 8 years out of date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 and so are not 'skewed' by the increased insurgent activity in the south. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burman Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Besides, murder by insurgents is still murder isn't it? This topic has come up so many times already. Is there a link which shows murder rates in major cities across the world? That might be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) As an aside the Tenth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2005 - 2006) closed for submissions in Jan 2008, the data above is from the seventh. Therefore official coordinated statistics are at least 2 years behind actuality. Regards PS Forgot to mention that Thailand did not contribute data to the Eighth or Ninth survey, wonder why Edited June 10, 2008 by A_Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priceless Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 According to Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count..._by_murder_rate ) the latest (way back in 2000) reported murder rate for Thailand was 8.47 per 100,000 inhabitants. In 2006 the corresponding number for Russia was 16.5, for USA 5.7, for Spain 3.35 and for UK 2.03. In Brazil the figure was 27, in South Africa it was 40.5 and in El Salvador 55.3!!! I guess that, like in so many other cases, Thailand is not that good, but still a LOT better than some other places / Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Cleary Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) According to a high-ranking police source i interviewed not so long back, the murder stats made avilable in Thailand also include those charged with murder but not yet found guilty. There are no actual stats available to the precise amount of murders in Thailand. Edited June 10, 2008 by Stephen Cleary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Not sure how that makes much difference; or is the officer perhaps trying to say the people dead may not have been murdered? Like those with hands tied behind there backs who manage to shoot themselves multiple times which are termed suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losangels Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The unofficial murder rate is probably much higher. If a body is not found the person is considered missing. For example the missing Muslim attorney-Somchai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluezo Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 All I know is that Thailand has the highest alcohol consumption rate per catita in S.E. Asia. Where there's booze, there's .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiledegg Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 All I know is that Thailand has the highest alcohol consumption rate per catita in S.E. Asia. Where there's booze, there's .... women looking pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Probably taken from old nationmaster data that hasn't been updated in quite a few years: Nationmaster per capita murder rates . Please be sure to scroll down to the bottom and note the source: SOURCE: Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000 (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention) Thailand worse than USA? Say it isn't so. I think we need a listing of murder by firearms. That might put the USA back on top again. Ah possibly, but then 'death by condo block lobby' puts Thailand back to the top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Not sure how that makes much difference; or is the officer perhaps trying to say the people dead may not have been murdered? Like those with hands tied behind there backs who manage to shoot themselves multiple times which are termed suicide? The practice isn't that odd. Many cities in the USA & Canada release crime statistics with inflated "solved" numbers as they consider the arrest not the conviction to classify a crime as "solved". Sad but true. (Not saying it's right, but it is common practice.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heng Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 There's not as much of the *shoving/boxing/chair throwing match for 2 minutes then the fight is declared 'over'* culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow1 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Thailand has a population of 65Million, the USA. has a population of 300 Million the last I checked ( a few years ago). The US keeps records, Thailand doesn't and it easily suppresses whatever they don't want you to know. So who can tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Cleary Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) Not sure how that makes much difference; or is the officer perhaps trying to say the people dead may not have been murdered? Like those with hands tied behind there backs who manage to shoot themselves multiple times which are termed suicide? From what my police source mentioned, it really does matter. He explained that the police originally charge anyone who kills someone - with murder ie.. if you were to run over someone tomorrow, the police would automatically press charges of 'murder'. It is then your responsibility to prove it was manslaughter. That said therefore, those stats for 'Murders in Thailand' also include Manslaughter. And with the amount of people who get run over in Thailand, that therefore, could answer the first question posed. Apologies for not making it cleaer in the first post. Edited June 11, 2008 by Stephen Cleary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priceless Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Thailand has a population of 65Million, the USA. has a population of 300 Million the last I checked ( a few years ago). The US keeps records, Thailand doesn't and it easily suppresses whatever they don't want you to know. So who can tell? Excuse me, but what has this got to do with the per capita murder rate / Priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf5370 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Thailand has a population of 65Million, the USA. has a population of 300 Million the last I checked ( a few years ago). The US keeps records, Thailand doesn't and it easily suppresses whatever they don't want you to know. So who can tell? Excuse me, but what has this got to do with the per capita murder rate / Priceless Population densities, perhaps???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Thailand has a population of 65Million, the USA. has a population of 300 Million the last I checked ( a few years ago). The US keeps records, Thailand doesn't and it easily suppresses whatever they don't want you to know. So who can tell? Excuse me, but what has this got to do with the per capita murder rate murderers in the U.S. have more capital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptou Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Lets face it,if you behave correctly,& choose your hangouts in los carefully,the chances of you getting bumped off are slim,unless its yaa baa related. In the uk there are alot of areas,where if you go out for a pint one night,its probably just aswell to ask for the punch in the face before you order the drink so as to get it out of the way. I suppose my point is that i feel safer going out in los than the uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Someone is killed by another person and it's classified as murder? I'm sure the family of the murdered victim mowed down by Mooham last year will agree 100% with that. Unfortunately, other "Moohams" are out there and are never included in any stat here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pampal Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I feel pretty safe, safer than I did in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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