Non-b Multi Entry Refused.

[Moonrakers]

A colleague of mine was today refused a Non-B multi entry visa in Penang, being granted only a 3 month Non-B. The reason that he was given was that they don't issue mutli-entrys.

He has a British passport and has only been here for some 6 months.

All documents where in order and this was his first ever Non-B application.

Hope this helps.

[PoorSucker]

A colleague of mine was today refused a Non-B multi entry visa in Penang, being granted only a 3 month Non-B. The reason that he was given was that they don't issue mutli-entrys.

He has a British passport and has only been here for some 6 months.

All documents where in order and this was his first ever Non-B application.

Hope this helps.

All get only three months single entry in Penang when applying for first time.

Your friend must now get a WP and return to Penang for 1 year multiple Non-B

[Moonrakers]

Oh, didn't realise that.

Thanks

[Junglejumbo]

Are they strict on the documents?

My company has been telling me that i only need an invitation letter but i've been telling them that was the case more than 10yrs ago, and today you need the full pack as on their website. I've got to go Monday.

Laos incidently needed the full pack including an employment contract as well as the invitation letter.

[lopburi3]

You will need the full set plus a receipt for work permit application at almost all local locations I believe.

[Canadiana2007]

They wanted the full deal when i got one in KL a few months ago. I've heard Penang is even more strict than KL, so yes, I'm sure they'll want the whole thing. I think it was letter, employment contract and the company's business registration forms. Best to check directly with them.

[Canadiana2007]

They don't need a work permit receipt if it's your first non-b (i.e. single entry for 3 months). Maybe after that they do...

[lopburi3]

MFA says it is required per below.

http://www.mfa.go.th/web/2482.php?id=2492

2. Application for Visa

2.1 Non-Immigrant Visa Category “B” (Business Visa) is issued to applicants who wish to enter the Kingdom to work or to conduct business.

(1) Foreigners who wish to work in Thailand must provide the following documents:

- Passport or travel document with validity of not less than 6 months.

- Completed visa application form.

- Recent passport-sized photograph (4 x 6 cm) of the applicant taken within the past 6 months.

- Evidence of adequate finance (20,000 Baht per person and 40,000 Baht per family).

- Letter of approval from the Ministry of Labour. To obtain this letter, the applicant’s prospective employer in Thailand is required to submit Form WP3 at the Office of Foreign Workers Administration, Department of Employment, Ministry of Labour Tel. 02-2452745, or at the Provincial Employment Office in his or her respective province. More information is available at www.doe.go.th/workpermit/index.html

- Copy of Work Permit issued by the Ministry of Labour and alien income tax or Por Ngor Dor 91 (only in the case where applicant has previously worked in Thailand).

- Corporate documents of hiring company in Thailand such as:

1) business registration and business license

2) list of shareholders

3) company profile

4) details of business operation

5) list of foreign workers stating names, nationalities and positions

6) map indicating location of the company

7) balance sheet, statement of Income Tax and Business Tax (Por Ngor Dor 50 and Por Ngor Dor 30 of the latest year)

8) value-added tax registration (Por Por 20)

- Document indicating the number of foreign tourists (for tourism business only), or document indicating export transactions issued by banks (for export business only).

N.B.

- An alien who receives a Non-Immigrant visa can work in Thailand once he or she is being granted a work permit. An alien in violation of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) concerning taking up employment without work permit or the Royal Decree B.E. 2522 (1979) concerning holding employment in certain restricted occupations and professions shall be prosecuted and imprisoned or fined, or shall face both penalties.

- It is recommended that the applicant should apply for visa at the Thai Embassy/ Consulate in the country where he/she has the residence

[NHJ]

the consul is gone wild in penang, if you have a work permit valid for one year and had a previous one year visa then maybe he'll give a year otherwise it's three months or nothing.

[astral]

Why do you think that is wild?

It sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

[NHJ]

<br />Why do you think that is wild?<br /><br />It sounds perfectly reasonable to me. <img src="style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /><br />

haha not at all, with a valid work permit, you can get non-B multi entries but the guy in the chair instead of applying rules to issue a visa is looking at the sun position and various other natural phenomens to take the decision.

[ChiangMaiThai]

the consul is gone wild in penang, if you have a work permit valid for one year and had a previous one year visa then maybe he'll give a year otherwise it's three months or nothing.

I'm confused. If you have a work permit, can't your company extend your stay based on your employment, even though your visa has expired? If you're going to be getting a work permit, what is the need for the multiple entry?

Edited July 4, 2008 by ChiangMaiThai

[PoorSucker]

the consul is gone wild in penang, if you have a work permit valid for one year and had a previous one year visa then maybe he'll give a year otherwise it's three months or nothing.

I'm confused. If you have a work permit, can't your company extend your stay based on your employment, even though your visa has expired? If you're going to be getting a work permit, what is the need for the multiple entry?

You must fill the requirements for extension of stay.

It's much easier to get a Non-B, 1 year.

For example, my company do not have to pay VAT, no VAT no extension of stay.

[Marvo]

You must fill the requirements for extension of stay.

It's much easier to get a Non-B, 1 year.

For example, my company do not have to pay VAT, no VAT no extension of stay.

Is that for real PoorSucker? If your company trades under the VAT threshold of 1,200,000? baht per year turnover then an extension of stay (based on business) is not obtainable for an employed director?

[Sept]

I'm confused. If you have a work permit, can't your company extend your stay based on your employment, even though your visa has expired? If you're going to be getting a work permit, what is the need for the multiple entry?

The 1 year extension of stay can be a little problematic as it is linked to WP : quit or change job, and you have to do all the visa thing again...

[ozterix]

if you have a WP and do not change job, your visa is automatically renewed for one year as is your work permit, providing your company is paying tax, meaning makes a profit.

if you need a new non b, you can get it in vientiane as well in 2 days. We got a 3 months but maybe could have asked for multiple entry non b 1 year

oz

[digitalchromakey]

if you have a WP and do not change job, your visa is automatically renewed for one year as is your work permit, providing your company is paying tax, meaning makes a profit.

if you need a new non b, you can get it in vientiane as well in 2 days. We got a 3 months but maybe could have asked for multiple entry non b 1 year

oz

I wish it worked like this, but it doesn't

[silentnine]

i'm on my 2nd 12 month multi non-b .. both times issued with only my own company papers

[3sky]

All get only three months single entry in Penang when applying for first time.

Your friend must now get a WP and return to Penang for 1 year multiple Non-B

Having to go out of Thailand twice?  is this new proceedure?

I remember going out only once, get a single entry Non-B at the Thai embassy, enter Thailand, then the shiela in the office took care of it.  I think she took relevant docs to immigration where they stamped the passport as "under consideration, visa valid till ****" After consideration (no undertable stuff), they gave me 3 months, then 6 months, then 1 year visas after that, and never having to exit Thailand for each renewal.  

When going out of Thailand, I'd get a re-entry visa to keep the current visa valid.  

Edited July 6, 2008 by 3sky

[digitalchromakey]

All get only three months single entry in Penang when applying for first time.

Your friend must now get a WP and return to Penang for 1 year multiple Non-B

Having to go out of Thailand twice? is this new proceedure?

I remember going out only once, get a single entry Non-B at the Thai embassy, enter Thailand, then the shiela in the office took care of it. I think she took relevant docs to immigration where they stamped the passport as "under consideration, visa valid till ****" After consideration (no undertable stuff), they gave me 3 months, then 6 months, then 1 year visas after that, and never having to exit Thailand for each renewal.

When going out of Thailand, I'd get a re-entry visa to keep the current visa valid.

You are describing the process of obtaining a visa extension, you are correct, this is an alternative to the traditional visa run.

The visa extension application is made to your local immigration during the last month of your current non B visa stamp. It is made on the basis of business under section 7.1 of police order 606/2549.

The process extension must be repeated annually, re-entry permits can be obtained to maintain the visa extension during the year.

Visa extensions are still possible but extremely difficult to obtain, particularly if you work for a new or smaller business here. The extension requirements are very demanding at best.