Hoegarten Beer

[henryalleman]

Yes it is from Belgium. Hoegaarden, Leffe and Stella Artois are all from Belgium and all available in Bangkok. All three are available in Molly Malone's on Soi Convent.

I know it's a Belgian beer, but is the stuff sold here actually brewed in Belgium (rather than Northampton).

Yes its brewed in Belgium in a town called Hoegaerden, They tried to close down the brewery and move it to another town, but they never succeed to give it the same taste and there was a massive protest against it. So they took it back to the old brewery. Its has something to do with the quality of air and water.

[henryalleman]

one of my favourite beers for years, widely available in singapore, sadly not so in bangkok.

in fact its too bad that the beverage offerings in LOS do not match that of the great food available here.

Indeed the choices of beer is very limited in LOS, because comming from a country who have a beer culture.In belgium we have a variety of more than 400 kinds of beer. In my country we have drive in beer discounts. Meaning a warehouse some kind of supermarket where they only sell a whole variety of beers.

[Vato]

Hoegardeen prices went up...... soooo my new favorite is 'Coopers' from Australia, ...if you like Guniess....this stuff is almost identical in taste and only 130 a bottle compared to the 210-230 Hoegarden is trying to get now...and its 6% alcohol content...woohoooooooooo ! less beer= more drunk...i love it !

[SaigonDaze]

It should be available at Hob's Belgian Pub on Thonglor Soi 16. It was also available at the Cactus Bar in Soi Cowboy.

[OriginalPoster]

one of my favourite beers for years, widely available in singapore, sadly not so in bangkok.

in fact its too bad that the beverage offerings in LOS do not match that of the great food available here.

Indeed the choices of beer is very limited in LOS, because comming from a country who have a beer culture.In belgium we have a variety of more than 400 kinds of beer. In my country we have drive in beer discounts. Meaning a warehouse some kind of supermarket where they only sell a whole variety of beers.

Based upon what you're saying, and upon the available evidence the in the form of bottled Belgian beers in places I've lived before, I'm starting to think that it might be time to go on an extended vacation to Belgium.

Edited November 21, 2008 by OriginalPoster

[rono]

also available in the cherokee restaurant in bangsaray on sukhumvit road

[henryalleman]

Is the wifebeater Belgian? It's so expensive I've never dared try one to find out (and it just caused confusion when I asked in the Dubliner).

Yes it is from Belgium. Hoegaarden, Leffe and Stella Artois are all from Belgium and all available in Bangkok. All three are available in Molly Malone's on Soi Convent.

Is there anywhere in BKK that sells bottles of Hoegaarden Grand Cru?

carefour have it, also Leffe another famous belgian beer. Sometimes they even have Rodenbach.

Thanks for the tip on where to find that Grand Cru. That's quite a suprise that Rodenbach's in Bangkok now too.

You mentioned Leffe - there are some places in Bangkok that have that on tap as well. Had a "pint" of Leffe Blonde at a place on Sukhmvit Soi 20 recently. It's not my favorite of the Belgian pale ales but I guess that it's good for what it is.

Leffe is not an pale ale, but this kind of beer is called TRAPPIST also called Abdijbier (abbey beer). Its exclusively brewed by monks in a monastery. Its a typical Belgian kind of beer and have only one kind brewed outside of Belgium.(Holland).

[OriginalPoster]

Is the wifebeater Belgian? It's so expensive I've never dared try one to find out (and it just caused confusion when I asked in the Dubliner).

Yes it is from Belgium. Hoegaarden, Leffe and Stella Artois are all from Belgium and all available in Bangkok. All three are available in Molly Malone's on Soi Convent.

Is there anywhere in BKK that sells bottles of Hoegaarden Grand Cru?

carefour have it, also Leffe another famous belgian beer. Sometimes they even have Rodenbach.

Thanks for the tip on where to find that Grand Cru. That's quite a suprise that Rodenbach's in Bangkok now too.

You mentioned Leffe - there are some places in Bangkok that have that on tap as well. Had a "pint" of Leffe Blonde at a place on Sukhmvit Soi 20 recently. It's not my favorite of the Belgian pale ales but I guess that it's good for what it is.

Leffe is not an pale ale, but this kind of beer is called TRAPPIST also called Abdijbier (abbey beer). Its exclusively brewed by monks in a monastery. Its a typical Belgian kind of beer and have only one kind brewed outside of Belgium.(Holland).

I'll have to defer to your expertise on beer styles, I didn't know that "trappist" and "pale ale" were mutually exclusive terms. FWIW, on the bottle it's labelled as being a "blonde" ale and the word "trappist" does not appear. All of Chimay's beers, on the other hand, seem to be labelled as being a trappist regardless of how light, pale, or dark they are. From that I had surmised that "trappist" was more an indication that the beer had been brewed by monks than as a designation of the beer's style.

However its a common misconception that Leffe is brewed by monks. Present day Leffe is a mass produced product and the reason that you see it side-by-side with Hoegaarden so often is because it's part of the InBev stable.

Edited November 22, 2008 by OriginalPoster

[SaigonDaze]

Leffe Blonde is a Belgian Pale Ale

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/style/54

[jlelouer]

Yes it is from Belgium. Hoegaarden, Leffe and Stella Artois are all from Belgium and all available in Bangkok. All three are available in Molly Malone's on Soi Convent.

I know it's a Belgian beer, but is the stuff sold here actually brewed in Belgium (rather than Northampton).

The bottles I saw were brewed in Belgium and imported by :

Company: BELGIAN BEER PARADISE CO LTD

Email:

Address: 66 soi pridee panonyong 26, Sukhumvit 71, North Phra Kanong Thailand

Zip/Postal: N/A

Telephone: 0851602366

Mobile:

Fax: 027117216

On Google no more information

It seems that this company doesnt exist anymore... No answer to my emails and a thai woman is answering the mobile number and doesn't understand english... Does anyone know about an import company who sells Belgium beer ??

Cheers !

[Vato]

had some hoegarden at a beer garden, only 4 glasses and the next morning i had a tremendous headache as well as 2 other of my friends, one of which ordered Leffe...i dont know what went wrong, but the beer is definately not the same as before...and now a head basher.

[OriginalPoster]

had some hoegarden at a beer garden, only 4 glasses and the next morning i had a tremendous headache as well as 2 other of my friends, one of which ordered Leffe...i dont know what went wrong, but the beer is definately not the same as before...and now a head basher.

It's doubtful that the beer has changed since you started this thread. A lot of the time dehydration + alchohol is what leads to a headache then next AM, by any chance had you spent a day in the sun before drinking those 4 Hoegaardens?

[Vato]

all 3 of us had headaches the next day and we are heavy drinkers, but we had not met each other in about 1 month, something wasnt right because we were getting drunker faster than usual that day eventhough we drank less than usual...

not normal.

[OriginalPoster]

all 3 of us had headaches the next day and we are heavy drinkers, but we had not met each other in about 1 month, something wasnt right because we were getting drunker faster than usual that day eventhough we drank less than usual...

not normal.

Don't know; your original description of Hoegaarden that "even girls like it" and commenting that it wasn't "bitter" was IMO pretty spot-on. Never heard anyone say that it's a beer that gets you drunker faster than usual. Maybe you're allergic to wheat.

Edited February 3, 2009 by OriginalPoster

[Vato]

what does the taste and female consumption have to do with my previous post , regarding headaches and faster drunkedness than before with hoegarden/Leffe(word?)

i was talking about my 'last' experience....not the experiences before the last time i drank it...

the morning headaches applies to both hoegarden and leffe...chang cant touch a hoe/leffe headache...

like i said, something is not the same about the beer, or the beer at the beergarden was altered for marketing purposes...there was literally a 30 minue time gap, that they would not serve any beer and the entire place was waiting...they blamed it on the tap, but this is not the case.

in cambodia you can buy alcohol powder to boost the alcohol level.

Edited February 3, 2009 by Vato

[OriginalPoster]

i was talking about my 'last' experience....not the experiences before the last time i drank it...

the morning headaches applies to both hoegarden and leffe...chang cant touch a hoe/leffe headache...

like i said, something is not the same about the beer, or the beer at the beergarden was altered for marketing purposes...there was literally a 30 minue time gap, that they would not serve any beer and the entire place was waiting...they blamed it on the tap, but this is not the case.

in cambodia you can buy alcohol powder to boost the alcohol level.

Here's an experiment for you to try. Head down the the nearest Villa supermarket and buy 4 bottles of Hoegaarden and 4 bottles of Paulaner Heffeweissen Natrub. Grab one of your friends that also got a headache from the Hoegaarden, and one of you drink the 4 newly purchased Hoegaardens and other one drink the 4 Paulaners. If both of you get headaches, then you just aren't comaptible with wheat beers; if neither of you get's a headache, then the Hoegaardens you drank before were somehow bad; if only the guy who drank the Hoegaardens gets a headache, then maybe it's a Hoegaarden thing. Please report back when you have results, this is subject matter that deservers serious and studied research.

Edited February 3, 2009 by OriginalPoster

[Vato]

ive drank hoe about 20 times now...i can drink anything.

my friends can drink anything, ones irish so 'she' can drink what most mortal men can't...

i think it was just the beer at the beer garden...im telling you something was strange about the beer at the beer garden.

[OriginalPoster]

ive drank hoe about 20 times now...i can drink anything.

my friends can drink anything, ones irish so 'she' can drink what most mortal men can't...

i think it was just the beer at the beer garden...im telling you something was strange about the beer at the beer garden.

No need to imply that it has something to do with Hoegaarden then. If the beer garden is poisening you, that's not the fault of the brewer.

Edited February 4, 2009 by OriginalPoster

[Vato]

the beergarden IS the importer to thailand...

if it has the name Hoegaarden and im drinking it, then it has everything to do with Hoegarden, if you cant trust the importer who can you trust?...

[cloudbusting]

i used drink this in my local bar in ratchada (probably the same place as the op) and got very fond of ir

vato, did you have the dodgy drink in ratchada or somewhere else?

[OriginalPoster]

the beergarden IS the importer to thailand...

if it has the name Hoegaarden and im drinking it, then it has everything to do with Hoegarden, if you cant trust the importer who can you trust?...

Who is beergarden? That sounded like the name of a pub or restaurant, must be something more than that if they are an importer capable landing an account as large as Hoegaarden.

You're probably right about who the importer is, but I thought that it was and outfit called Brewberry (www.brewberry.co.th) that InBev was using as their Thai distributor.

Edited February 5, 2009 by OriginalPoster

[Vato]

i used drink this in my local bar in ratchada (probably the same place as the op) and got very fond of ir

vato, did you have the dodgy drink in ratchada or somewhere else?

it was on thong lor...but i use to drink at a place off ratchada until they rose the prices...since that, its been more about atmosphere rather than price.

[cloudbusting]

i used drink this in my local bar in ratchada (probably the same place as the op) and got very fond of ir

vato, did you have the dodgy drink in ratchada or somewhere else?

it was on thong lor...but i use to drink at a place off ratchada until they rose the prices...since that, its been more about atmosphere rather than price.

ratchada soi 3?

did they raise the prices of everything there or just the hoegaarden?

[Vato]

everything including hoe...hoe went up another 30 baht i believe (everywhere), havent really went back since the price increase....yep, soi 3

Edited February 7, 2009 by Vato

[polecat]

Another question on Hoegaarten. I'm partial to a drop and am in fact about to head up to Mokka on Lang Suan to have a few "Happy" Hour pints at B150 (+10%). Anyone know of anywhere else that does this on special? I like the drink, but not sure it's worth 220 baht (GBP4.20/$6) a glass.

(Crikey, I've just scared myself with those conversions. Maybe I'll just grab a Leo.)