Girlfriend Wants To Come To Visit Me

[fred2007]

i know many thai bar girls who regularly go on internet sites to earn more money and meet farangs

i know a few thai girls who work in sleazy karaoke bars taking care of thai guys who go on the internet

Really?

Bar girls can hardly compose a sentence in their own language.

Them going the Internet?

Some might, with assistance.

Actually, you can hardly find a seat in a Pattaya Klang internet cafe because of these diminutive creatures.

Maybe you should be buying your own pc

[pumpuiman]

When I applied for my wifes visa to the U.S. she was 36 years old, had more than 15 years verifiable employment (and was asked to supply names and phone numbers of supervisors going back 10 years) hundreds of e-mails, dozens of photo's, evidence of deposits, receipts, envelopes addressed to her from me, nearly 4 years of phone bills.....mountains of evidence and paperwork.....and I was terrified she wouldn't get her visa.

You have a lot of work to do.

[tracer5050]

Yes you need to go slowly. I am sure your lady thinks a lot of you, But I also know of a few girls whos working 3 and 4 guys at one time. One girl i know has a visa to the Us to get married and is still getting money from him till she goes to the US. and still having a couple gys who is in love with her coming and staying weeks with her. She tells him she lost her mobile or phone works part time in her village when she visits.The reason I know so much she has me help her write her Emails to them.

Just give it some time. You will know more later as you learn more.

[dptf2004]

I had been with my Thai gf for eight months in Thailand and we managed to secure a 6 month visit visa. She was 18 and i was 24. We ticked all the right boxes i guess and had a stack full of evidence i.e. statements, photographs, tenancy agreement, employment details etc.

I think as long as you can prove the relationship is genuine you have a chance, but to do that after a fortnight is impossible.

If she is giving you rubbish about any sick relative, loans she has to pay or any other cock and bull story ditch her. At the end of the day a lot of thai ladies in a certain profession will tell you what you want to hear and you have to see through it.

[Martian]

in the UK its cold, dark, no good good

she will be home sick the second she lands

I think most people would get homesick, no matter where they go. However, in the main, as long as Thai's can get their food, they seem to adjust pretty well.

My Mrs has several friends in the UK who aren't interested in going back to Thailand, even on holiday. I now work and live in Saudi and i asked my mrs what she wanted to do until her visa to join me came through. She could either go back to Thailand and wait there or stay in the UK. She has a good set of friends and get's all the Thai food she needs. She has stayed in the UK.

I concur with mrbojangles. Most Thais find it very hard to live in another country once the novelty of the situation wears off and the reality that you have to work for money sets in. Many things can be incompatible for them but if you make sure they have access to their foods or the ingredients to cook their foods, they are usually content. I never skimp on my wife's groceries or when she comments that she wants to go out to her favorite Chinese restaurant, I say lets go.

Martian

Edited August 15, 2008 by Martian

[Siam1973]

Been looking around for Thai food and ingredients, nothing local where i live but there are a few on-line shops that deliver with a good range of food

http://www.thai-food-online.co.uk/thaifood...CFQ9WtAodMXPEZA

http://www.orientalmart.co.uk/

I don't know if she would adapt to the colder UK climate but theres only one way to find out, nothing ventured nothing gained.

If she is giving you rubbish about any sick relative, loans she has to pay or any other cock and bull story ditch her. At the end of the day a lot of Thai ladies in a certain profession will tell you what you want to hear and you have to see through it.

she's never asked for anything apart from a copy of photographs of us together, i sent them by e-mail but she has to travel to get on a computer so i am sending them next week. i do send her money(once so far) and it is what we agreed she would need to live back in Si Kui, it's neatly 4 weeks now and we have only mentioned money once when i needed her account number, time will tell...

Yes you need to go slowly. I am sure your lady thinks a lot of you, But I also know of a few girls who's working 3 and 4 guys at one time.

she worked at my mates bar and although its always possible to be played i am sure I'm not, i know she never worked in a bar long due to her age and it was her first bar according to my mates gf who runs the bar, so only 6 weeks in bar, still taking it slow.

we text each other 3-6 times a day and i call her at the weekend, sometimes i hear her nice in the background shouting my name and they must have a rooster at the house, noisy thing, its getting made into a curry when i see it

[Martian]

Been looking around for Thai food and ingredients, nothing local where i live but there are a few on-line shops that deliver with a good range of food

http://www.thai-food-online.co.uk/thaifood...CFQ9WtAodMXPEZA

http://www.orientalmart.co.uk/

I don't know if she would adapt to the colder UK climate but theres only one way to find out, nothing ventured nothing gained.

If she is giving you rubbish about any sick relative, loans she has to pay or any other cock and bull story ditch her. At the end of the day a lot of Thai ladies in a certain profession will tell you what you want to hear and you have to see through it.

she's never asked for anything apart from a copy of photographs of us together, i sent them by e-mail but she has to travel to get on a computer so i am sending them next week. i do send her money(once so far) and it is what we agreed she would need to live back in Si Kui, it's neatly 4 weeks now and we have only mentioned money once when i needed her account number, time will tell...

Yes you need to go slowly. I am sure your lady thinks a lot of you, But I also know of a few girls who's working 3 and 4 guys at one time.

she worked at my mates bar and although its always possible to be played i am sure I'm not, i know she never worked in a bar long due to her age and it was her first bar according to my mates gf who runs the bar, so only 6 weeks in bar, still taking it slow.

we text each other 3-6 times a day and i call her at the weekend, sometimes i hear her nice in the background shouting my name and they must have a rooster at the house, noisy thing, its getting made into a curry when i see it

Don't ever trust anyone 100%....especially Thais. It isn't that Thais are bad people, they just don't view the concept of deception in the same serious light that us Farangs do. It's a cultural thing and they do it to each other as well.

Regards,

Martian

[Tman2008]

It appears there is a lot of negative (maybe realistic) comments flying around. It looks to me that you are excited and want to persue this.

You only get 1 life, and a period of time where you feel good and try to get together then its worth more than anything. Other wise, you would have been sitting in front of the tele doing nothing.

I say go for everything and if you believe and want it to happen then hopefully things will fall into place and you can be happy with your new lady.

As someone said before, they do hand out untruths (its their culture), so prepare yourself, and if you want to continue with her, deal with it and dont confront her about it. Just let it go and get on with whats best.

I am goin over in Sept to make a visa app with my girl of 1.5years, if we suceed and she doesn't like it here, (and I dont think she will because I dont even like the UK) I shall be seeking empolyment elsewhere and we can be together in another country. (Thai/HK/Aus/ wherever).

Good luck

Tman

[zorro1]

technically you could be her DADDY ...

isn't that the kind girl that just waits for the other stupid head over heels farang with puppy love and ask either to send money (sick buffalo story or somekind) or asking to come over to UK with the need to be together ...

and in the meanwhile chatting with 10 other farang that plan to come here on a holliday trip ...

be real... ur 35, she is 18 ...

in the UK its cold, dark, no good good

she will be home sick the second she lands

maybe marry her and end up selling ur assets and giving 50% to her, she will be pleased

I have to agree in some aspects of Thaibkk ..... I think you're experiencing what most farang feel after visitng Thailand. Lets face it .... Thailand is a huge head-f ......

I was lucky to meet a girl online and not in a bar and chatted to her for many month before visiting her. She is currently staying with me now in Australia and we plan to marry in Thailand in November. As for Thai ladies in UK, my brother has a wonderful Thai wife and is exremely happy. Seems some Thai people can adapt.

As for you age difference ..... i'm 52 and my gf is 32 ..... no problem for either of us .... even though, yes, she is young enough to be my daughter.

Dont get me wrong yours could be legit but anyone living here knows full well that most bar girls spend their downtime fishing on places like Thai love links. before I got ToT connected at home I spent 4 weeks running my biz in a cafe on sukhumvit where the female owner would spend all day with b/gs helping them send hundreds of emails.

[DostyTheCat]

Hi Siam,

Keep your head clear! move slowly but surely and don't let the "bastards grind you down!"

I live in the UK. Used to work in BKK. Met a lovely girl over there. Went through the same sh*t. took me three years and took the UK Immigration Agency to court in the UK. Won my case. Did it all myself.

On the subject of "Agencies".... here is the Official line from the "Use of visa agents

There are a number of visa agents in operation throughout Thailand, prospective applicants may choose to use them in order to support or prepare their entry clearance application.It is important to note that these agents are in no way whatsoever connected to the Embassy. They have no influence over the outcome of an application. " [ http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/F...d=1065714374894 ] (for your reference)

I used a "Thai Agent" for the tourist visa stage and they charged me a reasonable amount of money - but did little more than fill in the forms. The "test interviews" were a bit of a joke, and only confused my missus (as they weren't about us!) and sure enough she failed to get a tourist visa. Looking back on it I would have done it all myself and propbably got it.

Your GF will hear loads of "Myths" from her mates - tell her to ignore them! After all her mates are still in Thailand!!!

Thai's actually love the UK. My missus loves it here and has made loads of mates - both English and Thai. It was a bit cold for her at first - but she is happy as Larry. She now has two jobs and probably earns more than me!!! ;o) So.... not all Thai GF's are as bad as everyone makes out. As I said - just be careful. As far as I am concerned, as long as they don't have a THAI boyfriend when you meet them..... and you treat them with respect.... you will be more than happy - whatever their background. I have had thai GF's before her while I was living out there that were the "wrong" sort... but if you are sensible you can suss them out quite quickly.

There is nothing wrong with thai girls wanting a better life, and indeed you providing the means for them to achieve that. I have found that as long as you have respect and understanding... their gains are yours too! I have spent years going out with gorgeous european girls who are far more mercenary than any thai girls I have met!!

My best mate is married to a Thai g/f of my wifes.... he is 54 and she is 32..... no probs at all.... he is happy as larry.

Basically the way to get the Visa is to stick pedantically to the Visa Requirements. Make sure that you have EVERY stipulation covered in triplicate and you will be fine.

This is the web sites you will need

http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/F...d=1065714374339

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/visitingtheuk/

I found that reading through the "advice to entry clearance officers" was very informative and gave me great insight into what to concentrate on for the applications etc.

I did my own visas for both me and my best mate.... had some problems... some big some small!! ... and sorted everything out in the end.

Good advice from people on here... keep all hotel bills (you CAN get the hotels to put the bill in joint names - very useful).... telephone bills....emails etc...

Personally I believe that sending a small amount of money after a time is not "stupid". It actually helps the application. It doesn't have to be a lot, and It doesn't even matter if you are not the only person sending money.... just keep your eyes open. For every bad thai g/f there is a bad butterfly farang!!!

gott go.... but good luck

[Siam1973]

It appears there is a lot of negative (maybe realistic) comments flying around. It looks to me that you are excited and want to persue this.

You only get 1 life, and a period of time where you feel good and try to get together then its worth more than anything. Other wise, you would have been sitting in front of the tele doing nothing.

I say go for everything and if you believe and want it to happen then hopefully things will fall into place and you can be happy with your new lady.

As someone said before, they do hand out untruths (its their culture), so prepare yourself, and if you want to continue with her, deal with it and dont confront her about it. Just let it go and get on with whats best.

I am goin over in Sept to make a visa app with my girl of 1.5years, if we suceed and she doesn't like it here, (and I dont think she will because I dont even like the UK) I shall be seeking empolyment elsewhere and we can be together in another country. (Thai/HK/Aus/ wherever).

Good luck

Tman

Thank you for the psitive post Tman2008pursue, it means a lot to me , just about all the replies here have been honest and i appreciate the response, although most have been negative with just cause to my situation it has not detered me.

Hi Siam,

Keep your head clear! move slowly but surely and don't let the "bastards grind you down!"

I live in the UK. Used to work in BKK. Met a lovely girl over there. Went through the same sh*t. took me three years and took the UK Immigration Agency to court in the UK. Won my case. Did it all myself.

On the subject of "Agencies".... here is the Official line from the "Use of visa agents

There are a number of visa agents in operation throughout Thailand, prospective applicants may choose to use them in order to support or prepare their entry clearance application.It is important to note that these agents are in no way whatsoever connected to the Embassy. They have no influence over the outcome of an application. " [ http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/F...d=1065714374894 ] (for your reference)

I used a "Thai Agent" for the tourist visa stage and they charged me a reasonable amount of money - but did little more than fill in the forms. The "test interviews" were a bit of a joke, and only confused my missus (as they weren't about us!) and sure enough she failed to get a tourist visa. Looking back on it I would have done it all myself and propbably got it.

Your GF will hear loads of "Myths" from her mates - tell her to ignore them! After all her mates are still in Thailand!!!

Thai's actually love the UK. My missus loves it here and has made loads of mates - both English and Thai. It was a bit cold for her at first - but she is happy as Larry. She now has two jobs and probably earns more than me!!! ;o) So.... not all Thai GF's are as bad as everyone makes out. As I said - just be careful. As far as I am concerned, as long as they don't have a THAI boyfriend when you meet them..... and you treat them with respect.... you will be more than happy - whatever their background. I have had thai GF's before her while I was living out there that were the "wrong" sort... but if you are sensible you can suss them out quite quickly.

There is nothing wrong with thai girls wanting a better life, and indeed you providing the means for them to achieve that. I have found that as long as you have respect and understanding... their gains are yours too! I have spent years going out with gorgeous european girls who are far more mercenary than any thai girls I have met!!

My best mate is married to a Thai g/f of my wifes.... he is 54 and she is 32..... no probs at all.... he is happy as larry.

Basically the way to get the Visa is to stick pedantically to the Visa Requirements. Make sure that you have EVERY stipulation covered in triplicate and you will be fine.

This is the web sites you will need

http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/F...d=1065714374339

http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/visitingtheuk/

I found that reading through the "advice to entry clearance officers" was very informative and gave me great insight into what to concentrate on for the applications etc.

I did my own visas for both me and my best mate.... had some problems... some big some small!! ... and sorted everything out in the end.

Good advice from people on here... keep all hotel bills (you CAN get the hotels to put the bill in joint names - very useful).... telephone bills....emails etc...

Personally I believe that sending a small amount of money after a time is not "stupid". It actually helps the application. It doesn't have to be a lot, and It doesn't even matter if you are not the only person sending money.... just keep your eyes open. For every bad thai g/f there is a bad butterfly farang!!!

gott go.... but good luck

thanks dostythecat, good advice there, i have already reserved the Sima Thani in Korat in both our names, she may check in before me because i wont arrive to the hotel until midnight.

Unforetunately i don'tgoing know succeeddon'tdon'temploymentany thai'positives in thedeterred UK but it hasprobably given me a boost to know that many Thais do like the UK

I have read through a few of thUnfortunatelydon'te Scouses posts and replies to questions i have asked, he seems very down the middle no bull s**t, and i respect him for being honest.

When and if we apply for a visa it will be sticking to the requirements and being honest, although i will have to omit about bar work. I am still looking at a 'valid reason to return', no job, no land/property or kids, any i deas? i sent an e-mail to the embassy asking for advise and the e-mailed me this back

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your email of 17 August 2008

Due to everyone's circumstances are different and it is up to the applicant to decide whether to submit these documents, or different ones. Our list does not cover every single eventuality, all applications will be assessed on its merits and producing all the documents will not guarantee a visa. Applicants should make sure they include all supporting papers with their applications. Where possible, applications should submit original documents.

For information on how to submit an application including the documents required and visa fees or for tracking your application or any visa related inquiries please visit our website, www.vfs-uk-th.com

You can also find further information regarding information for sponsors and visit entry requirements on the website www.ukvisas.gov.uk

Form filling by trained staff only Baht 300.

So no help there for 'reason to return, ideas i can think of for getting a visit visa are:-

1. To see if living in the UK is suitable before marriage (marry in Thailand, fiancé visa means getting married in UK)

2. To meet my family and friends and get to know them

3. To re-pay the kindness i have given while visiting

any more ideas?

believe it or not i am being realistic, after 6 months if we apply for a visa i know the chances are very slim due to many factors, so i would expect the worst and hope for the best (best meaning miracle)

p.s., at the bottom of the e-mail from the embassy it states there is help form filling from i presume embassy staff for 300 baht, does anyone have more information about this?

[Optimodo]

I have little experiance with this but i am in a very simular situation as you. I met a girl about 14 months ago and have spent about 8 or 9 of those in thailand with her and i am now thinking of trying to get her a visitors visa. However she is now almost 21 i met her when she was 19 and working racking pool tables and serving drinks in a bar. Me and my dad are good freinds with the owner and my dad had known her for about 6 months or more before i met her from being a frequent visitor to the bar.

However being so young she has no land, not much savings but should be enough to show she can support herself (definatly once my wealth is combined as her sponsor). I can get a letter showing she has a job to return to but its a job in a bar so i dont know if that holds any value. I have many photos, phone records and some plane stubs from traveling around thailand with her. But i am stuck on a strong reasons to return to Thailand.

The ones i can think of at the moment are:

To return to her Family, Mother, Father and Older and Younger Sister.

The letter proving she has a job to return to.

To get married to me in Thailand with her friends and family arround.

Although at this moment dont have a specific plan to get married the immagration people won't know that and with such few options as reasons to return it is all that i can currently think of.

Edited August 26, 2008 by mikemcleanuk

[Martian]

I have little experiance with this but i am in a very simular situation as you. I met a girl about 14 months ago and have spent about 8 or 9 of those in thailand with her and i am now thinking of trying to get her a visitors visa. However she is now almost 21 i met her when she was 19 and working racking pool tables and serving drinks in a bar. Me and my dad are good freinds with the owner and my dad had known her for about 6 months or more before i met her from being a frequent visitor to the bar.

However being so young she has no land, not much savings but should be enough to show she can support herself (definatly once my wealth is combined as her sponsor). I can get a letter showing she has a job to return to but its a job in a bar so i dont know if that holds any value. I have many photos, phone records and some plane stubs from traveling around thailand with her. But i am stuck on a strong reasons to return to Thailand.

The ones i can think of at the moment are:

To return to her Family, Mother, Father and Older and Younger Sister.

The letter proving she has a job to return to.

To get married to me in Thailand with her friends and family arround.

Although at this moment dont have a specific plan to get married the immagration people won't know that and with such few options as reasons to return it is all that i can currently think of.

I have a question for you. Do YOU have a compelling reason to return such as a job in Thailand? Not quite the same situation as you but way back when, my now wife and I went to the US embassy to do our fiancee interview and told the guy of our plans to go home 3 weeks for Thanksgiving, get married and then come back to Thailand because I had to return to work in Thailand. He said that wouldn't work (at the time I didn't know everything about the visa) and he said if I can get him a letter from my employer stating my return is required, he could most likely get me a visitor visa for my then girlfriend. Sure enough, I had the letter drafted at our head office and we were off to USA on a visitor visa. He had informed me that my plan wouldn't work because after marrying, you should remain long enough for the green card process to work it's way through etc.

Just a different angle for you to think about, maybe you have a compelling reason to come back and can prove there is no reason for her to stay there without you.

Good luck!

Martian