Condom Broke, I'm Now Scare Like ######..

[Pujun]

health workers who accidentally suffer needlestick injuries and consider themselves to be at risk from hiv infection can get a "morning after" cocktail of antiviral medication to take over the following three or four weeks.

if you are so worried about it perhaps inquire at a good hospital about post exposure prophylaxis.

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I went to see a doctor in a private hospital last Monday. Had a HIV test and result was negative. Doctor recommended PEP of 3 combination thrapy for 28 days.

Evaluation from doctor:

Chance to get infected from HIV in my case should be around 0.8% if the other party is HIV +ve. And should be around 0.3% if the HIV status of him unknown.

Suggestion from doctor:

PEP treatment reduced further 80% chance of infection, so the final will become 0.8 x 0.2% = 0.16% chance of getting HIV infected in this single exposure after PEP treatment. This is assume that the other party is HIV +ve.

I took my first pill at 14.00 last Monday, 44 hours after the incident. However, in the last few days, PEP brought me some unpleasent side-effects such as thirsty all the time, often want to vomit (especially after a big meal), increase my blood glucose (I've diabetes).

Actually, I only paid for first week's medicine as I told the doctor that I want to try 1 week then may consider coming back to get another 3 weeks of medicine.

It cost me over 5000 baht for 1 week medicine + examination.

I just keep re-thinking about my chance of getting HIV in one SINGLE unsafe activity. I may not want to continue PEP....

Back to 1990, my mother took me to see a well-known fortune teller after numerous family problems happened, the fortune teller told me that I might have trouble around 38 - 40, if I can go through 40, thing should be fine or a fatal incident related to blood/water may occur during these 3 years...

In addition, right after condom broke, I went to bath room clean up my anus and trieddefecate a bit (not much but just 2 or 3 drops of s.h.i.t.)

[cathyy]

I just want to reinforce the message delivered earlier about there being no "safe" sex, only "safer" sex.

While working in operating rooms (nurse) I observed surgeons triple-gloving for HIV+ patients. Routine was only double-gloving, even on HBV+ patients. The rationale was dual. The HIV virus is smaller in diameter than the naturally occurring tiny holes in latex. It is possible for the HIV to pass through the latex barrier, but it's highly unlikely to pass through it three times! It is also not unheard of for surgeons to get tiny nicks on their fingers from the scalpel. Three layers of gloves could prevent the scalpel from cutting the skin and giving far too easy a blood path.

Bear in mind that surgery is not analogous to sex. Surgeons are necessarily exposed to blood and therefore potentially large amounts of the virus and must depend solely on their barriers for protection. Direct blood exposure in real quantity is (at least in my experience!) not an inevitable part of sex. You don't need to wear three condoms.

That said, there are some good conclusions to be drawn here. Surgeons wash their hands a LOT, and tend to have very dry, irritated skin from doing so. Microscopic lesions are likely on their chapped hands. If gloves DO prevent surgeons from contracting the virus from HIV+ patients during surgery then condoms, made of the same material, should perform similarly well when used for sex as conscientiously as a surgeon uses gloves for surgery.

I would hope Pujun finishes the course of meds, however expensive it might be. I would hope he chooses to find a lifelong partner, does so, and they remain mutually monogamous. At least there's no worry about an unwanted pregnancy in addition to the existing worries!

[Gleen_tea]

actually, i used my own condom..

Durex condom (the golden color one). but didn't take any lubricant..

i have this guy's contact number and this afternoon, i told him about how worry i am.

is there any place in bangkok that provide free and confidential hiv test?

i would like to ask him go there for a test.

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For blood tests, I can personally recommend the Red Cross clinic on Rachadamri road, it's across the road from Lumpini park. It's not free (but almost) and it's completely anonymous, you don't give them your name and you don't have to register. They just give you this yellow card with a number on it that you show them when you come back for the result. 80 baht for the result in three days, 200 baht for the result in one hour. The staff are nice, too.

[donna]

Good luck, Pujun. Gay, straight, whatever floats your boat. But a broken condom is a broken condom.

I wish you all the best of luck with your tests.

[Pujun]

Good luck, Pujun.  Gay, straight, whatever floats your boat.  But a broken condom is a broken condom. 

I wish you all the best of luck with your tests.

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Thank you donna, the test result shows that i didn't get infected by HIV.

i will take extra care from now on.

[DJ Pat]

Advice for those gay-curious straight men : To establish whether gayness is really for you, Go to your local doctor, tell him you think you've got piles and the resulting anal probe will let you know if you are that way inclined.

[Ijustwannateach]

One too many beers last night, Pat? Not like you to do trolling on gay threads!

[Thomas_Merton]

Having read all the posts in this interesting and vital thread, I am aware there lies an inherent contradiction in the posts that relate to “sauna life” and contraception.

Advice has been rightly given to have contraception and lubrication always available, but how, if as noted there are no places for money to be carried given all are scantily dressed in towels, can a person be expected to carry these life saving accessories?

Surely, given these circumstances, the conclusion must be that sex in saunas per se is dangerous.

[Ijustwannateach]

ummmm.... not to make you uncomfortable with the gory details, but not infrequently condoms and lubricant are available:

1. in strategically placed bowls

2. on request from any staff worker

3. in strategically placed dispensers

When all these fail, many saunas will place samples of these materials in each locker, and people tote them around using five-digit manipulators called "hands."

Sex in saunas is no more inherently dangerous than sex in bed, sex in the kitchen, or sex in space- if proper precautions are taken.

"Steven"

[Insight]

I know this is a pretty serious thread and lots of good advice has been given, but...

Regarding the saunas, is there a lesbian version of the same thing?

Edited April 8, 2005 by Insight

[DJ Pat]

One too many beers last night, Pat?  Not like you to do trolling on gay threads!

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Not at all Steven, just was browsing. And offering that very important advice to bi-curious straight guys!

[Ijustwannateach]

Ya know, there are quite a number of gay guys who only do the OTHER side of the equation, too, and they would never experience the "receiving end" any more than a straight gay would.... so I think your "bi-curious" analysis is flawed!

"Steven"

[DJ Pat]

  so I think your "bi-curious" analysis is flawed!

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Oh leave me alone

[Ijustwannateach]

[PeaceBlondie]

Advice for those gay-curious straight men : To  establish whether gayness is really for you, Go to your local doctor, tell him you think you've got piles and the resulting anal probe will let you know if you are that way inclined.

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Actually, Pat, that analogy has nothing to do with oral sex (as IJWT has made clear) and if you think one doctoral finger is anything like the real 1.5-2.1 inch thing, you've been looking at some undersized things. Also, proctologists really go for the quickies; it's not much fun to anybody. Then again, as my sister advised me, "Don't knock it if you haven't tried it."

Edited April 11, 2005 by PeaceBlondie

[jerry921]

So it's been 3 months, have you been retested pujun?

[baalpeteor]

well I can surely tell you're gay lol. not just b/c u were on the bottom, oh and the fact that you're worried about hiv and all that and not babies, but also b/c u can't talk right!

[george]

Is this topic done, or do we really have something to add here?

Closing time?

[ChrisP]

Topic is DEF done.

//Topic Closed.

ChrisP

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