Police Fire Tear Gas At Protesters In Front Of Parliament

[Bangyai]

And so few listen to the others.

The keys tap many times,

but do the the words resonate not

in the quintessence of hardened purveyors

of fusty incantations from epochs's found devoid,

larded amidst lupine animus and amaranthine misanthropy.

Nevertheless typing abides, etude abides, for a transient nonce.

Same same forever more...

Oooooooo thats lovely animatic my old mucker

I love a bit of prose

It brings salty tears to my eyes, and a little snot to my sunburnt nose.

Now pass that bottle of Mekong you're hogging

And leave me a little drop

Because we don't want people saying

Your prose are from a drunken sot.

By the way, this is not another flame

So please don't get out of your pram

I'm only having a little fun

' Cause thats the kinda bloke I am.

[grandpops]

Certianly it was, but technically qualified, like in a newspaper with "seriously suspect".

So it actual is only potentially insulting supposition, and not put forward as fact.

But I remember what it was responding to was none to nice either.

Two wrongs don't etc....

Well It got argued out, and I thought it was erased.

Continuously attempting to play the hypocracy card wins no converts.

Comes across as more sour grapes than anything else.

How bout back on topic,

or are the no facts or theories to debate anymore?

Has the SUDDEN war on the border erased all Oct 7th contentions?

Been light on facts throughout has this debate. Not light on TOC propaganda though I notice. Are they sponsoring the forum these days?

Hammered's post and Samuians reply should be pinned and essential reading before posting. IMHO cmsally also made some great posts but is in a minority. Many others however have mindlessly pumped hatred and propaganda. What or who are behind this, from both sides is most unlikely to become the subject for purile debate on this site. It is certainly being played out at a higher level than people waving plastic hands and feet at each other.

One thing for sure, they are paying supporters and financing these mass demonstrations. The winners in the battle for the trough are going to eat long and full before there is any movement of money to the population.

I think the propagandists are finally realising they havn't made a blind bit of difference ON BOTH SIDES! before you start shrieking again.

[sriracha john]

What part of

5) Discussion of moderation issues, actions or moderation policies concerning individual cases are not allowed in the forums. Such comments should be directed to a moderator or administrator, and not discussed on the forum.

is so difficult for some people to understand?

Didn't you post a whole series of posts directed to me last week suggesting I broke a forum rule - impying the mods were not doing their job. And the issue was that I posted a comment from a newsreporter on a blog - which you said was against forum rules. Just wondering what you think of Reimar(a MOderator) posting a comment from another forum today? (Oh I forgot- you agree with that because it supports PAd-

Does hypocrisy have any limit?

Inaccuracy sure doesn't seem to have any limit.

It was not last week, it was a month ago yesterday.

I didn't say you were breaking a rule, merely asking about the precedent you were setting by quoting another forum's posts.

If I thought you were breaking a forum rule, I'd have simply reported your post.

Nick Nositz is not a "newsreporter".

Any thoughts I have on what a moderator does I would not post them in the open forum, but instead they would be directed to them with a PM, the same action that the above rule instructs posters to do. See how that works? It doesn't seem that difficult to me for anyone to understand.

Edited October 16, 2008 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

House Speaker suggests all faction take one step back

Speaker of the House of Representatives on Thursday televised the House's stance, urging all sides in local politics take one step back from the current situation while affirming that the assembly was constitutionally compelled to meet on October 7, a session for the government to declare its policy statement.

House Speaker Chai Chidchob revealed in a televised address on Thursday evening (October 16) that the October 7's event, which resulted in much blood loss, has caused a rift within the nation.

He stated, however, that the Parliament was compelled to hold a meeting to let the Government declare its policies as the time frame was stipulated by the Constitution. He said that as the policies have been declared, the lower House was also now required to take action.

Chai said that he would not blame any group instigating the October 7's clashes between police and protesters, but asked that all factions in the local politics think of the greater good of the nation. He also reminded authorities to work to uphold the law and sustain a civil system.

Chai said that general public should cast off their political views and base themselves only on the fundamentals of democracy.

The House Speaker also called on all Thai people to demonstrate their loyalty to His Majesty the King by stepping back from the situation and allowing it to diffuse.

He added that the Parliament has chosen to step back, by not holding a meeting this week. It is going to hold session as normally next week.

- ThaiNews / 2008-10-17

[sylviex]

Chart Thai party ready to quit coaltion if ....

Chart Thai Party on Friday joined military chiefs' calls that Somchai Wongsawat government should hold responsibility if it ordered violent dispersal of anti-government protesters on October 7.

Party's executive member and Agriculture Minister Somsak Prissana Nuntakul said that Somchai should immediately resign if investigation into the violence concluded that the government ordered the dispersal.

C'td

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30086258

Edited October 17, 2008 by sylviex

[younghusband]

What part of

5) Discussion of moderation issues, actions or moderation policies concerning individual cases are not allowed in the forums. Such comments should be directed to a moderator or administrator, and not discussed on the forum.

is so difficult for some people to understand?

Didn't you post a whole series of posts directed to me last week suggesting I broke a forum rule - impying the mods were not doing their job. And the issue was that I posted a comment from a newsreporter on a blog - which you said was against forum rules. Just wondering what you think of Reimar(a MOderator) posting a comment from another forum today? (Oh I forgot- you agree with that because it supports PAd-

Does hypocrisy have any limit?

Inaccuracy sure doesn't seem to have any limit.

It was not last week, it was a month ago yesterday.

I didn't say you were breaking a rule, merely asking about the precedent you were setting by quoting another forum's posts.

If I thought you were breaking a forum rule, I'd have simply reported your post.

Nick Nositz is not a "newsreporter".

Any thoughts I have on what a moderator does I would not post them in the open forum, but instead they would be directed to them with a PM, the same action that the above rule instructs posters to do. See how that works? It doesn't seem that difficult to me for anyone to understand.

Could you then follow your own advice please and PM the person concerned whenever you feel like playing moderators.The fact is you have a long track record of making such posts on the open forum.Personally I wouldn't mind too much if the advice was offered in a kindly and helpful spirit, but too often you undermine any such motives with unnecessary and sarcastic point scoring, of which the last sentence in your post above is a good example.

[Samuian]

Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat committed serious malfeasance when he was the permanent secretary for the Justice Ministry in 1999, the National Counter Corruption Commission said yesterday.

.....edit....

Somchai refused to give interviews yesterday on the NCCC's ruling.

The crux of the disciplinary case against Somchai is his neglect in failing to penalise two senior officials from the Justice Ministry's Legal Execution Department.

Then director-general Pramarn Tiyapaiboonsin and his deputy Manit Suthaporn were found to have wrongfully waived a 5-per-cent fee on the auction of two plots worth Bt897 million as ordered by the Pathum Thani Provincial Court.

Under the ministry's chain of command, responsibility for Somchai's lapse of duty extends to then justice minister Suthas Ngernmuen and deputy permanent secretary Bandit Ratchatanan, who is now a senior judge.

By The Nation

Published on October 17, 2008

more here:

Destiny is taking it's course....as most of them are, or claim to be Buddhists, they should know better, or take some lessons regarding the unwritten law of karma which not even needs to be implemented or enforced by the judiciary, nor does it need police or courts.

Edited October 17, 2008 by Samuian

[Guest Reimar]

Chart Thai party ready to quit coaltion if ....

Chart Thai Party on Friday joined military chiefs' calls that Somchai Wongsawat government should hold responsibility if it ordered violent dispersal of anti-government protesters on October 7.

Party's executive member and Agriculture Minister Somsak Prissana Nuntakul said that Somchai should immediately resign if investigation into the violence concluded that the government ordered the dispersal.

C'td

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/read.php?newsid=30086258

It's not an easy "job" to take over even a part of responsibility as coalition partner! How he told?

Asked if his party will withdraw from the coalition government, Somsak said he will wait for the results of the investigation.

"If the results said the government ordered the dispersal or the prime minister involved in the violence, Chart Thai Party will be ready to quit the coalition," he said.

Which mean not less than: "If we can find a way to avoid responsibility, we can keep our power!" (that's my thinking) and to tell to be ready NOT mean they will really do it!

Cheers.

[Ricardo]

Los78, you may remember making this claim before, that more than one vehicle/offender was involved, but the evidence then was that it happened only once. It was of course disgraceful, as I said once more details began to emerge, hopefully the driver has been apprehended, and his motivation/affiliation will be established when the case comes to court, and he is punished.

Strange that this has not already happened, given the speed with which the police established that all the limbs blown off, were due to explosives carried by the victims themselves.

And the speed that the vehicle explosion, near the Chart-Thai HQ, was established to be a car-bomb, but that the lady forensic scientist claims to have spoken to two witnesses who say that the police fired something into the vehicle. Which then exploded. It wasn't a fire or exploding fuel-tank, caused by whatever device might have been used by the police, the police themselves have already confirmed that the car might have had explosives on-board. So that's alright then.

Los78, please note that I quoted your (now unavailable) post, but did not add or remove a single word, merely highlighted two phrases. I did not, and would not, 'falsify' another member's posts.

The highlight was your claim, which you previously made a few days ago, that the PAD were driving pick-up trucks at the police, and which I don't yet see the evidence for.

There is a world of difference, between a single stupid/mistaken person, who may (it's not yet proven) have been a PAD-supporter , driving a single pick-up at the police, and multiple supporters driving several pick-ups at the police.

One is an act of stupidity, madness, whatever, by an individual person, as the police knowingly or through poor-training/equipment maim, injure , gas or kill hundreds of their friends.

The other would be a planned-response, much more serious IMO, implemented by several people within PAD, as a strategy to cause more-serious and more-numerous injuries.

Yes there are too many questions that refused to be answered by many members discussing this clash.

I have quoted the first line only, from your post. I agree with you. So when will you answer the above question, where is the evidence, for your repeated claims that the PAD drove trucks, not just a single pick-up, at the police ? I really want to see it, as I am sure you cannot be fabricating or exagerating this, such a serious allegation.

And three days later, there are still no posts from Los78 or anyone else with any evidence, that this was not a on-off incident, but part of a formal/informal strategy by PAD to drive trucks at the police, to try to cause more injuries.

Hopefully that claim has therefore now been laid-to-rest ?

Regarding the one-off incident itself, where is the guilty driver, when will the case be brought to court, is he perhaps one of the 20-or-so 'disparues' claimed by the PAD-leadership ? The longer the police fail to announce the results of their investigation, or produce the driver of the vehicle, the odder (and more worrying for his safety) this looks. And what about the officer dragged under the car, what were his injuries, is he recovering from them ?

[sriracha john]

What part of

5) Discussion of moderation issues, actions or moderation policies concerning individual cases are not allowed in the forums. Such comments should be directed to a moderator or administrator, and not discussed on the forum.

is so difficult for some people to understand?

Didn't you post a whole series of posts directed to me last week suggesting I broke a forum rule - impying the mods were not doing their job. And the issue was that I posted a comment from a newsreporter on a blog - which you said was against forum rules. Just wondering what you think of Reimar(a MOderator) posting a comment from another forum today? (Oh I forgot- you agree with that because it supports PAd-

Does hypocrisy have any limit?

Inaccuracy sure doesn't seem to have any limit.

It was not last week, it was a month ago yesterday.

I didn't say you were breaking a rule, merely asking about the precedent you were setting by quoting another forum's posts.

If I thought you were breaking a forum rule, I'd have simply reported your post.

Nick Nositz is not a "newsreporter".

Any thoughts I have on what a moderator does I would not post them in the open forum, but instead they would be directed to them with a PM, the same action that the above rule instructs posters to do. See how that works? It doesn't seem that difficult to me for anyone to understand.

Could you then follow your own advice please and PM the person concerned whenever you feel like playing moderators.The fact is you have a long track record of making such posts on the open forum.Personally I wouldn't mind too much if the advice was offered in a kindly and helpful spirit, but too often you undermine any such motives with unnecessary and sarcastic point scoring, of which the last sentence in your post above is a good example.

I wasn't discussing a moderation issue, I was discussing forum protocol. Posting in the open forum was entirely proper as I was just voicing my experience as a long-time member in not having seen a similar type post before. If others had seen it used before, then they could inform everyone through a reply post. I was wondering about it's precedent-setting post status, nothing whatsoever to do with moderating.

You seem to have great difficulty getting past that the fact that as a long-time thaivisa member, I've got experiences that having nothing to do with whether or not I'm a moderator.

btw, nothing sarcastic in my previous last comment. I truly am amazed that some people are having such a difficult time sorting things out... kind of like your mistaking what my comments were as discussing moderation issues.

Edited October 17, 2008 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

Government ready to be responsible for Oct 7 clashes

The Government Spokesman indicated the Somchai Wongsawat administration was ready to take full responsibility for the October 7 incident, but asked that all facts be investigated first. He was confident the military would not stage another coup.

Prime Minister's Office Spokesman Nuttawut Saikua, responding to Army Commander in Chief Gen Anupong Paochinda's call on Thursday's (October 16) evening for the government to take responsibility for October 7's police clashes with protesters, said this morning (October 17) that he agreed with the Army's Chief's suggestion.

Nuttawut, however, said that many of the facts surrounding the incident were still being debated and are pending validation. He was confident that investigation would not take a long time.

He also said that if results of the probe clearly pointed out that the government committed wrongdoing and intentionally killed protesters, it would be ready to disband. *it's a race to see if the Constitution Court doesn't do so first for electoral fraud*

Nonetheless, the Spokesman suggested that third parties as well as People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) may also be involved in the untoward incidents, thus it's necessary to allow investigation to finalize before taking any action.

The Spokesman remarked that this government was under pressure. So, it's ready to listen to all sides' views, especially the armed forces' commanders.

He was confident that the military would be main thrust keeping democracy and would stage no coup as the coup would not benefit the country.

Leaders of the Thai armed forces, including Gen Anupong and Supreme Commander, Gen Songkitti Jaggabatara, clearly stressed on Thursday that the military would stage no coup as the act would benefit no one.

- ThaiNews / 2008-10-17

Edited October 17, 2008 by sriracha john

[hammered]

Government ready to be responsible for Oct 7 clashes

The Government Spokesman indicated the Somchai Wongsawat administration was ready to take full responsibility for the October 7 incident, but asked that all facts be investigated first. He was confident the military would not stage another coup.

Prime Minister's Office Spokesman Nuttawut Saikua, responding to Army Commander in Chief Gen Anupong Paochinda's call on Thursday's (October 16) evening for the government to take responsibility for October 7's police clashes with protesters, said this morning (October 17) that he agreed with the Army's Chief's suggestion.

Nuttawut, however, said that many of the facts surrounding the incident were still being debated and are pending validation. He was confident that investigation would not take a long time.

He also said that if results of the probe clearly pointed out that the government committed wrongdoing and intentionally killed protesters, it would be ready to disband. *it's a race to see if the Constitution Court doesn't do so first for electoral fraud*

Nonetheless, the Spokesman suggested that third parties as well as People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) may also be involved in the untoward incidents, thus it's necessary to allow investigation to finalize before taking any action.

The Spokesman remarked that this government was under pressure. So, it's ready to listen to all sides' views, especially the armed forces' commanders.

He was confident that the military would be main thrust keeping democracy and would stage no coup as the coup would not benefit the country.

Leaders of the Thai armed forces, including Gen Anupong and Supreme Commander, Gen Songkitti Jaggabatara, clearly stressed on Thursday that the military would stage no coup as the act would benefit no one.

- ThaiNews / 2008-10-17

Yes its sounding like the old we dont know what we did. We wont take responsibility and we will await our inquiry defence. Cant expect much more of the autonomon government.

Hopefully I will be surprised but it looks like playing for time

[sriracha john]

here's how they show they are accepting responsibility...

People Power Party Deputy Leader Police Lieutenant-General Kan Thienkaew

Tensions rise as opposing group meets with PAD at Lumpini Park

The People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) has begun to gather at the King Rama VI Monument located in Lumpini Park across from Silom Road, preparing to carry out its plan to pass out leaflets and CDs today.

The group has made plans to pass out material along Silom Road throughout today detailing the events of October 7th, which they hold illustrates excessive force on the part of police.

A group of about 30 men however also appeared on the scene with red bandanas led by Deputy Leader of the People's Power Party, Police Lieutenant-General Kan Thienkaew.

The men presented documents to authorities in the area requesting orderliness which caused some discontent amongst the PAD present. Officers from the Lumpini Metropolitan Police Station had to use riot shields to seperate the two groups before the situation escalated.

- ThaiNews / 2008-10-17

Edited October 17, 2008 by sriracha john

[Samuian]

Anupong said the government will have to show responsibility for the crackdown on People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) protesters by dissolving the House of Representatives or stepping down if fact-finding panels find that the government orders the lethal crackdown which left 2 people dead and more than 400 injured.

However, he denied that the army would pressure the government to take responsibility, saying that the society has already pressured the government to do so.

Anupong said he was sorry for the clashes between protesters and police. He denied his involvement in the crackdown, saying that it was the direct order from the government to police.

He also said if he could turn back the time, he would not have let this happen.

Anupong then ruled out the idea that the army would stage a coup d'etat to end political turmoil.

He insisted that the army would not take side, because everyone is the people of the country.

Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, meanwhile, said he is willing to return sovereignty to the people after the Constitution Drafting Committee is formed and the country has a new constitution.

Source:

Here we go!

No stepping down BEFORE Mission accomplished!

Important Orders to follow up, after all HE has all the qualifications to ensure the necessary juristic loopholes will be in the "new" constitution to clear the path of the masters return in glory and (maybe) revenge his dishonourable ousting!

Edited October 17, 2008 by Samuian

[hammered]

Anupong said the government will have to show responsibility for the crackdown on People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) protesters by dissolving the House of Representatives or stepping down if fact-finding panels find that the government orders the lethal crackdown which left 2 people dead and more than 400 injured.

However, he denied that the army would pressure the government to take responsibility, saying that the society has already pressured the government to do so.

Anupong said he was sorry for the clashes between protesters and police. He denied his involvement in the crackdown, saying that it was the direct order from the government to police.

He also said if he could turn back the time, he would not have let this happen.

Anupong then ruled out the idea that the army would stage a coup d'etat to end political turmoil.

He insisted that the army would not take side, because everyone is the people of the country.

Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, meanwhile, said he is willing to return sovereignty to the people after the Constitution Drafting Committee is formed and the country has a new constitution.

Source:

Here we go!

No stepping down BEFORE Mission accomplished!

Important Orders to follow up, after all HE has all the qualifications to ensure the necessary juristic loopholes will be in the "new" constitution to clear the path of the masters return in glory and (maybe) revenge his dishonourable ousting!

This government was put in for only one purpose and getting rid of it before it has achieved what it was put there for wont happen without a fight. This is a raw power play on both sides. It remains to be seen who wins this power play, but thankfully it does seem to be reaching a point where something must give. I say thankfully not because I want to see more horrible incidents but because right now the country needs to move on in whatever direction that will be.

[sriracha john]

Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, meanwhile, said he is willing to return sovereignty to the people after the Constitution Drafting Committee is formed and the country has a new constitution.

Here we go!

No stepping down BEFORE Mission accomplished!

Important Orders to follow up, after all HE has all the qualifications to ensure the necessary juristic loopholes will be in the "new" constitution to clear the path of the masters return in glory and (maybe) revenge his dishonourable ousting!

This government was put in for only one purpose and getting rid of it before it has achieved what it was put there for wont happen without a fight. This is a raw power play on both sides. It remains to be seen who wins this power play, but thankfully it does seem to be reaching a point where something must give. I say thankfully not because I want to see more horrible incidents but because right now the country needs to move on in whatever direction that will be.

PM to set up charter drafting body

Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat pledged to continue an establishment of the third Constitutional Drafting Assembly (CDA) before returning power to people.

The premier said on Thursday that all parties concerned in local politics, including Senate Speaker Prasopsuk Boondet, House Speaker Chai Chidchob, and coalition parties, agreed with the proposal as democracy belonged to every Thai.

The proposed third CDA, he said, was the best solution under prevailing political situation.

The prime minister insisted he would return power to people as soon as new Constitution is accomplished as he never clung to his position.

Regarding a calling for him to resign, Somchai said that under prevailing political uncertainty, the resignation was not the best solution.

- ThaiNews / 2008-10-17

Edited October 17, 2008 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

The premier said ...

the proposal as democracy belonged to every Thai.

The proposed third CDA, he said, was the best solution under prevailing political situation.

The prime minister insisted he would return power to people as soon as new Constitution is accomplished as he never clung to his position.

Somchai seen hectically making phone calls during visit to Ayutthaya

During his official visit to inspect the works of the SUPPORT Arts and Crafts International Centre of Thailand in Ayutthaya Friday morning, Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat was seen making several phone calls and checking phone messages.

While being briefed on the work of the centre, the prime minister appeared nervous and did not pay attention to the briefing. He instead received or made phone calls several times and checked SMS messages on his phone.

After the briefing went on for 15 minutes, he called People Power MP Boon Treyapirom, his personal secretary, to talk and then he made another phone call while the MP listened attentively to his phone conversation.

After the briefing, the prime minister refused to answer reporters' questions about the political situation, saying he would answer their questions at the temporary government seat at the Don Muang airport.

The Nation / 2008-10-17

Edited October 17, 2008 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

Thaksin's lawsuit rejected

The Criminal Court yesterday turned down the defamation lawsuit filed against Kaewsan Atipho

yet another one of the infamous "Thaksin's defamation lawsuits" gets thrown out... although he did have his proxy agency file it to protect the "fame" of "HIS" airport...

Thai court drops defamation case against Bangkok Post newspaper

Bangkok - The Bangkok Criminal Court on Wednesday dropped a defamation case against the Bangkok Post newspaper

Just as fast as the courts are continually dismissing these frivolous lawsuits, his battalion of lawyers (the ones not currently in jail for bribery, anyway) file new ones....

Thaksin's lawyers file complaint against Sondhi

Two layers of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra filed a complaint with police alleging Sondhi Limthongkul, the Manager Daily and ASTV with defaming him.

Wichit Plungsrisakul and Watchara Saengprathoom filed the complaint at the Dusit police station.

The two layers said they were authorised by Thaksin to take legal action against Sondhi for making defamation statement against the former prime minister and the statement was published by the paper and aired on the satellite TV.

Watchara also alleged that Sondhi had violated an order of the Civil Court not to make defamation statement against Thaksin again. The order was issued on July 1.

- The Nation / 2008-10-17

[frodo]

The Creation of Somchai.

[catmac]

You seem to have great difficulty getting past that the fact that as a long-time thaivisa member, I've got experiences that having nothing to do with whether or not I'm a moderator.

btw, nothing sarcastic in my previous last comment. I truly am amazed that some people are having such a difficult time sorting things out... kind of like your mistaking what my comments were as discussing moderation issues.

As a long-time thaivisa member, I am constantly amazed at how a tiny handful of members monopolise this news section as if it were their own personal property (which is why I have seldom bothered to post in the past!); and by their constant sarcasm (perhaps not evident to you, but clear as daylight to others), endless hunting down and denigration of anyone who dares to enter the forum with a difference of opinion, and their delight in having such opposition deleted or banned, make it a travesty of fair debate.

Just step back, and look at the last few pages. What we have is no more than 6 fanatical pro-PAD supporters/Thaksin-haters posting endlessly to each other, taking an occaisional break to slag off an opponent. Just totally purile.

[Ricardo]

And three days later, there are still no posts from Los78 or anyone else with any evidence, that this was not a on-off incident, but part of a formal/informal strategy by PAD to drive trucks at the police, to try to cause more injuries.

Personal apology, as I've just learned that Los78 is unable to post in response, due to being 'on holiday'.

On Thaksin's lawyers, isn't it a shame that they are too busy, doubtless with all the other defamation-claims, to pursue ex-PM Samak, who used regularly to defame Thaksin by claiming to be his nominee, 'a vote for me is a vote for Thaksin', when the good Doctor has repeatedly said that he has quit Thai politics ?

To have one's good name & reputation associated with such a character as Samak really is offensive ! Perhaps the lawyers might even win that one !

[sriracha john]

A protester holds a poster of Thailand's Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat during a rally in Bangkok's business district to condemn clashes between police and protesters October 17, 2008. Two people died and nearly 500 people, including dozens of police, were hurt in last week's clashes outside parliament. Police were accused of brutality for firing tear gas grenades that blew off several people's limbs.

REUTERS

[TAWP]

catmac>> To be honest, what I see is a few PAD lovers sharply pointing out (and they do love to point them out) all the things Thaksin and Co has done or are being charged for, many anti-government people posting their views and a handful of apologists and TRT/PPP-lovers that spend most of their posts complaining that PAD running anything will be the downfall of us all and then spinkle their posts with false facts that repeatedly gets disproved.

[Samuian]

Here we go!

No stepping down BEFORE Mission accomplished!

Important Orders to follow up, after all HE has all the qualifications to ensure the necessary juristic loopholes will be in the "new" constitution to clear the path of the masters return in glory and (maybe) revenge his dishonourable ousting!

This government was put in for only one purpose and getting rid of it before it has achieved what it was put there for wont happen without a fight. This is a raw power play on both sides. It remains to be seen who wins this power play, but thankfully it does seem to be reaching a point where something must give. I say thankfully not because I want to see more horrible incidents but because right now the country needs to move on in whatever direction that will be.

Well, I am very much afraid that right now the man who is concerned, isn't concerned about this at all!

76.000.000.000 is a lot of dough, even it's "only" in ThB, or 2.1. Billion US$ and THAT is ALL what he is concerned about, he would turn the world over to get it back, but right now it looks like he ran out of luck, has bad stars, black sabbath, sorcery, magic, doesn't seem to work for him right now!

[sriracha john]

well now, those posters didn't stay vertical very long....

Anti-government protesters step on a poster of Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat in Bangkok, Thailand, Friday, Oct. 17, 2008. Thousands of anti-government protesters were marching through the streets of Thailand's capital, calling for the resignation of Somchai.

Associated Press

[Samuian]

........edit......

What we have is no more than 6 fanatical pro-PAD supporters/Thaksin-haters posting endlessly to each other, taking an occaisional break to slag off an opponent....edit...

Anyone is welcome to have an opinion!

And anyone is welcome to open a thread that suits his opinion!

How about genuine "I love Mr.Taxin!" Topic?

One may find a lot of kindred spirited followers, next step could be a Mr.Taxin Fan Club, with a Paraphernalia Shop, to support him in his quest for a genuine healthy political landscape and genuine equality for all in Thailand and "wealth for the poor and underprivileged"!

Slogan could be: "let the LoS come reality!"

Edited October 17, 2008 by Samuian

[frodo]

........edit......

What we have is no more than 6 fanatical pro-PAD supporters/Thaksin-haters posting endlessly to each other, taking an occaisional break to slag off an opponent....edit...

Anyone is welcome to have an opinion!

And anyone is welcome to open a thread that suits his opinion!

How about genuine "I love Mr.Taxin!" Topic?

One may find a lot of kindred spirited followers, next step could be a Mr.Taxin Fan Club, with a Paraphernalia Shop, to support him in his quest for a genuine healthy political landscape and genuine equality for all in Thailand and "wealth for the poor and underprivileged"!

Slogan could be: "let the LoS come reality!"

Not sure if this allowed, but there is the always the official PPP fanclub...http://pppfanclub.ning.com/ What would an official PPP fanclub be without the token farangs?

[plachon]

well now, those posters didn't stay vertical very long....

Anti-government protesters step on a poster of Thai Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat in Bangkok, Thailand, Friday, Oct. 17, 2008. Thousands of anti-government protesters were marching through the streets of Thailand's capital, calling for the resignation of Somchai.

Associated Press

Oooooh, the indignity!!! What has the poor bro-in-law done to deserve such vilification by the unclean masses? Don't they have any respect for the Shittywater clan? It's enough to make you want to vote for a return to the good old law n'order days of Sarit, eh? Wouldn't tolerate such base behaviour in that golden epoch. We'd have those evil PAD people up against the wall faster than a communist sympathiser or unruly Sakhon Nakhon MP's in the paddy field.

[Ricardo]

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What we have is no more than 6 fanatical pro-PAD supporters/Thaksin-haters posting endlessly to each other, taking an occaisional break to slag off an opponent....edit...

Anyone is welcome to have an opinion!

And anyone is welcome to open a thread that suits his opinion!

How about genuine "I love Mr.Taxin!" Topic?

One may find a lot of kindred spirited followers, next step could be a Mr.Taxin Fan Club, with a Paraphernalia Shop, to support him in his quest for a genuine healthy political landscape and genuine equality for all in Thailand and "wealth for the poor and underprivileged"!

Slogan could be: "let the LoS come reality!"

I had to laugh, as the image rose to my mind unbidden, of plastic happy-clappy-squareheads, made in Britain or the Bahamas or the B.V.I. !

This objective of genuine equality & helping the poor, do you think that might include the rich or elite like himself, paying some tax to help improve the situation of the poor & underprivileged, despite all the evidence to the contrary ?

[Plus]

The prime minister insisted he would return power to people as soon as new Constitution is accomplished

That could take a year or more.

Poor sod really doesn't know what to do. This puppy got really lost.