lannarebirth Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 bought back Zhaojin Mining for a second time more expensive than i sold http://www.bloomberg...?ticker=1818:HK World's most wanted gold stocks: not just the usual suspects http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 For about two-thirds of Tuesday, New York time, there was panic buying of gold stocks, and then a hefty sell off; stock pricing patterns followed dollar gold bullion, which peaked at USD 1,424.60 an ounce before later making a low of USD 1,382.80 for the day.http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 In technical analysis terms it would be called a "Daily Key Reversal", Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Morgan Stanley's currency view suggests sustained support for gold The bank's views on the outlook for the currency markets and their implied underlying turmoil, suggests that risk-hedgers will want to maintain long gold positions http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page33?oid=114700&sn=Detail&pid=102055 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Morgan Stanley's currency view suggests sustained support for gold The bank's views on the outlook for the currency markets and their implied underlying turmoil, suggests that risk-hedgers will want to maintain long gold positions http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 If there is an 80% correlation between most asset classes (some harder than others), which there seems to be and is inclusive of Gold, how does it act as a hedge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Morgan Stanley's currency view suggests sustained support for gold The bank's views on the outlook for the currency markets and their implied underlying turmoil, suggests that risk-hedgers will want to maintain long gold positions http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 If there is an 80% correlation between most asset classes (some harder than others), which there seems to be and is inclusive of Gold, how does it act as a hedge? I suppose it is perception , One could also invest in other assets , but Central Banks amongst others seem to want to hold gold as a hedge against USD weakness / I saw 2 interviews recently with Central Bankers on CNBC - 1st From Lebanon that holds , so they said ,one of the highest gold reserves in the Middle East - He said he was holding and would not be selling as it was a hedge against $ weakness and 2nd from Sri Lanka who said the same AND that they would manage their reserves to maintain 10-20% in Gold / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Morgan Stanley's currency view suggests sustained support for gold The bank's views on the outlook for the currency markets and their implied underlying turmoil, suggests that risk-hedgers will want to maintain long gold positions http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 If there is an 80% correlation between most asset classes (some harder than others), which there seems to be and is inclusive of Gold, how does it act as a hedge? I suppose it is perception , One could also invest in other assets , but Central Banks amongst others seem to want to hold gold as a hedge against USD weakness / I saw 2 interviews recently with Central Bankers on CNBC - 1st From Lebanon that holds , so they said ,one of the highest gold reserves in the Middle East - He said he was holding and would not be selling as it was a hedge against $ weakness and 2nd from Sri Lanka who said the same AND that they would manage their reserves to maintain 10-20% in Gold / Found the Sri Lanka interview - after about 3 minutes if you don't want to watch it all / http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1640159962&play=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrak Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 For about two-thirds of Tuesday, New York time, there was panic buying of gold stocks, and then a hefty sell off; stock pricing patterns followed dollar gold bullion, which peaked at USD 1,424.60 an ounce before later making a low of USD 1,382.80 for the day.http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 In technical analysis terms it would be called a "Daily Key Reversal", Lanna, was it actually a 'key reversal' in technical terms or are you simply commenting on the 'blog'....panic buying, higher highs, sell off, close at lows.... etc... And was it the same in silver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 For about two-thirds of Tuesday, New York time, there was panic buying of gold stocks, and then a hefty sell off; stock pricing patterns followed dollar gold bullion, which peaked at USD 1,424.60 an ounce before later making a low of USD 1,382.80 for the day.http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 In technical analysis terms it would be called a "Daily Key Reversal", Lanna, was it actually a 'key reversal' in technical terms or are you simply commenting on the 'blog'....panic buying, higher highs, sell off, close at lows.... etc... And was it the same in silver? Both Silver and Gold put in Daily (short term) key reversals on Tuesday. Neither has shown intermediate (weekly) or longer term (monthly) key reversals. My definition of a key reversal is that a higher high and a lower low is printed than a prior high that was the previous interval. With this QE2 it's Magic 8 Ball stuff but still one trys to stick to what they know, or think they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Talk of large Gold/EUR order having gone through There is talk that a "big" order to buy Gold/sell euro has been going through the market this morning. http://www.fxstreet.com/news/forex-news/article.aspx?storyid=31e22138-43cc-4dd6-b300-2ff7630834b7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Talk of large Gold/EUR order having gone through There is talk that a "big" order to buy Gold/sell euro has been going through the market this morning. http://www.fxstreet.com/news/forex-news/article.aspx?storyid=31e22138-43cc-4dd6-b300-2ff7630834b7 couldn't have been mine as i paid with dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Talk of large Gold/EUR order having gone through There is talk that a "big" order to buy Gold/sell euro has been going through the market this morning. http://www.fxstreet.com/news/forex-news/article.aspx?storyid=31e22138-43cc-4dd6-b300-2ff7630834b7 add another flash crash strange trade ! On Thursday, the benchmark Kospi index fell 2.7 per cent at the close of trade on what we understand was a single large computer-driven sell programme originating from a European bank: http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/11/11/401566/a-kospi-conundrum/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 "Found the Sri Lanka interview - after about 3 minutes if you don't want to watch it all" insignificant small country with insignificant small forex reserves which makes gold holdings of 10-20% insignificant small. p.s. the remark "would manage their reserves to maintain 10-20% in Gold", id est a difference of 100% depicts in my [not so] humble view a clown. :jap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 "Found the Sri Lanka interview - after about 3 minutes if you don't want to watch it all" insignificant small country with insignificant small forex reserves which makes gold holdings of 10-20% insignificant small. p.s. the remark "would manage their reserves to maintain 10-20% in Gold", id est a difference of 100% depicts in my [not so] humble view a clown. :jap: Yes probably , but all the central banks in this area seem to be buying gold and perhaps have the same policy - towards ? 20% and so India .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) "but all the central banks in this area seem to be buying gold and perhaps" where's the beef besides the IMF/India deal because of dwindling USD value fear as far as indian reserves are concerned? Edited November 11, 2010 by Naam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 "but all the central banks in this area seem to be buying gold and perhaps" where's the beef besides the IMF/India deal because of dwindling USD value fear as far as indian reserves are concerned? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say - but I should have said 'Central Banks in this area ARE buying Gold ' and if this ' Clown ' from Sri Lanka has confirmed that his bank is buying upto 20% of its reserves into Gold - I would think it quite probable that India , Bangladesh , Sri Lanka hold similar views ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 11, 2010 Author Share Posted November 11, 2010 Anti-gold fever 'As Mr. Skidelsky interprets the idea, the result of Mr. Zoellick's proposal would be a new global currency system built around a "super sovereign reserve currency" with some kind of reference to gold as an anchor. This would fit with Keynes' idea that "gold would be useful as a constitutional monarch, but disastrous as a despot." All in all, the sudden attention paid to a new gold standard is likely to fade. The prospect for some new gold standard is zero. As a result, the future of the world monetary system -- even under some new super sovereign reserve -- seems destined to ease quantitatively toward a new structure where inflationary paper continues to trump gold.' Read more: http://www.financialpost.com/news/features/Anti+gold+fever/3810735/story.html#ixzz14z04cKH7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) If there is an 80% correlation between most asset classes (some harder than others), which there seems to be and is inclusive of Gold, how does it act as a hedge? I suppose it is perception , One could also invest in other assets , but Central Banks amongst others seem to want to hold gold as a hedge against USD weakness / I saw 2 interviews recently with Central Bankers on CNBC - 1st From Lebanon that holds , so they said ,one of the highest gold reserves in the Middle East - He said he was holding and would not be selling as it was a hedge against $ weakness and 2nd from Sri Lanka who said the same AND that they would manage their reserves to maintain 10-20% in Gold / Was it rice or sugar you bought not long ago LB? Commodities could be a nice place to be Edited November 11, 2010 by flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 "but all the central banks in this area seem to be buying gold and perhaps" where's the beef besides the IMF/India deal because of dwindling USD value fear as far as indian reserves are concerned? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say - but I should have said 'Central Banks in this area ARE buying Gold ' and if this ' Clown ' from Sri Lanka has confirmed that his bank is buying upto 20% of its reserves into Gold - I would think it quite probable that India , Bangladesh , Sri Lanka hold similar views ? the Sri Lankan clown said nothing about buying but "maintaining 10-20% of the reserves in gold". "anal-ysing" what he said turns up the result "clown". i already commented on India but refuse to comment on a beggar nation like Bangla Desh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badge Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 For about two-thirds of Tuesday, New York time, there was panic buying of gold stocks, and then a hefty sell off; stock pricing patterns followed dollar gold bullion, which peaked at USD 1,424.60 an ounce before later making a low of USD 1,382.80 for the day.http://www.mineweb.c...tail&pid=102055 In technical analysis terms it would be called a "Daily Key Reversal", Lanna, was it actually a 'key reversal' in technical terms or are you simply commenting on the 'blog'....panic buying, higher highs, sell off, close at lows.... etc... And was it the same in silver? Both Silver and Gold put in Daily (short term) key reversals on Tuesday. Neither has shown intermediate (weekly) or longer term (monthly) key reversals. My definition of a key reversal is that a higher high and a lower low is printed than a prior high that was the previous interval. With this QE2 it's Magic 8 Ball stuff but still one trys to stick to what they know, or think they know. Just fwiw my definition includes at minimum of 4 consecutive closes(e.g up) prior to any 'key reversal'(e.g down), without which I consider it just a reversal bar/candle etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatJ Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Cramer on CNBC made a big push for gold yesterday- recommending a holding of 20% per portfolio- this, plus a potential default by Ireland are going to push prices up...just put in another order for 10 baht this morning http://www.cnbc.com/id/40131687 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Just fwiw my definition includes at minimum of 4 consecutive closes(e.g up) prior to any 'key reversal'(e.g down), without which I consider it just a reversal bar/candle etc. Do you have to take out all four up days with the single down candle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Buffett doesn't like gold because it's got no intrinsic value. What if it could be used to save energy and absorb CO2 ! see 'Gold nanoparticles turn trees into streetlights' http://www.gizmag.com/glowing-trees-using-gold-nanoparticles/16917/ Edited November 12, 2010 by churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) hmmm jumpy Edited November 12, 2010 by flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 If there is an 80% correlation between most asset classes (some harder than others), which there seems to be and is inclusive of Gold, how does it act as a hedge? I suppose it is perception , One could also invest in other assets , but Central Banks amongst others seem to want to hold gold as a hedge against USD weakness / I saw 2 interviews recently with Central Bankers on CNBC - 1st From Lebanon that holds , so they said ,one of the highest gold reserves in the Middle East - He said he was holding and would not be selling as it was a hedge against $ weakness and 2nd from Sri Lanka who said the same AND that they would manage their reserves to maintain 10-20% in Gold / Was it rice or sugar you bought not long ago LB? Commodities could be a nice place to be Rice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Cramer on CNBC made a big push for gold yesterday- recommending a holding of 20% per portfolio- this, plus a potential default by Ireland are going to push prices up...just put in another order for 10 baht this morning http://www.cnbc.com/id/40131687 i was looking for a reason why gold dropped like a stone. now i know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naam Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Buffett doesn't like gold because it's got no intrinsic value. What if it could be used to save energy and absorb CO2 ! see 'Gold nanoparticles turn trees into streetlights' http://www.gizmag.com/glowing-trees-using-gold-nanoparticles/16917/ Danziger Goldwasser cures athlete's foot, erectile dysfunction and hair loss http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwasser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 i was looking for a reason why gold dropped like a stone. now i know Ain't it the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusader79 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 QE explained, at last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatJ Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 "Found the Sri Lanka interview - after about 3 minutes if you don't want to watch it all" insignificant small country with insignificant small forex reserves which makes gold holdings of 10-20% insignificant small. p.s. the remark "would manage their reserves to maintain 10-20% in Gold", id est a difference of 100% depicts in my [not so] humble view a clown. :jap: dude, you have to look at the big picture and not respond to every small story separately- one could easily get confused India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Mauritius central banks are all buying gold- 2010 central banks will be net buyers for only secound time since 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) QE explained, at last Man that was good Thanks It does in fact make you want to bang your head on the wall. Edited November 13, 2010 by flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badge Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Just fwiw my definition includes at minimum of 4 consecutive closes(e.g up) prior to any 'key reversal'(e.g down), without which I consider it just a reversal bar/candle etc. Do you have to take out all four up days with the single down candle? Hey LB, no is the answer, but if it were a key reversal it probably should! How much stock one puts in these things in another matter of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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