londonthai Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 just in case I have missed a discussion on this subject, but better later than never. the new technology minister Suwanchawee "has vowed to make it a priority to block websites insulting the monarchy" 29.12.2009 http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/econom...-rogue-websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 just in case I have missed a discussion on this subject, but better later than never.the new technology minister Suwanchawee "has vowed to make it a priority to block websites insulting the monarchy" 29.12.2009 http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/econom...-rogue-websites No surprise there, shame we can't discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kf6vci Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 The Economist is now a rogue website? Thousands of websites would need to be blocked as certain news articles are re-posted all over the web. To quote the bible, he who searches may find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 There was a report on Thai TV news last night that stated "2,300 sites blocked in 2008" with a video of a room full of CRT monitors - presumably connected to the Internet - being operated by (mostly) women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 meanwhile... Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites SYDNEY, Australia - A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries. Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government. Associated Press / 2008-12-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravelrash Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) meanwhile...Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites SYDNEY, Australia - A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries. Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government. Associated Press / 2008-12-26 Because it was in the small print on the new government's election platform, the dimwit Minister is claiming to have a mandate to introduce this nonsense. There is a protest group setup already fighting it. It will probably get installed, then the outrage and technical problems will cause it to be removed and the Minister quietly reassigned to counting kangaroos in some desolate part of the outback. It would be nice if his Thai counterpart could join him. Seems he has little sense for a long term career in politics. Edited December 31, 2008 by Gravelrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9988 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 just in case I have missed a discussion on this subject, but better later than never.the new technology minister Suwanchawee "has vowed to make it a priority to block websites insulting the monarchy" 29.12.2009 http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/econom...-rogue-websites abhisit stated that this was also his number 1 priority for the country, that is, protecting the monarchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9988 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 The Economist is now a rogue website? Thousands of websites would need to be blocked as certain news articles are re-posted all over the web. To quote the bible, he who searches may find. If you stay in Thailand you will not understand why The Economist is a rogue website because the contents have been edited. If you are outside Thailand you will definitely understand why The Economist will be blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I just wish they would stop censoring Camfrog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hans Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 There was a report on Thai TV news last night that stated "2,300 sites blocked in 2008" with a video of a room full of CRT monitors - presumably connected to the Internet - being operated by (mostly) women. I'm curious as to why they're employing mainly women. Cheaper? Less drunk? More productive? Easier to control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNamNah Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 (edited) http://truehits.net/stat.php?login=thaivisa what do these stats mean from the bottom of the forum: คนที่เข้า www.thaivisa.com แล้วไปเว็บไหนต่อ (จาก 174 เพจวิว) 1)mfa.go.th 8.62% - Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Kingdom of Thailand 2)nationmultimedia.com 8.05% 3)bangkokpost.com 7.47% 4)tourism.go.th 5.75% 5)thaisecondhand.com probably a 24/7 task for one of these 'intelligence officers' to watch Thai Visa! haha! Edited December 31, 2008 by SomNamNah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Guess youtube will be gone again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrenova Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It is such a backward step. Do they not have schools here that teach you that the best way to diffuse a situation is to ignore it. Confrontation, such as blocking websites, makes the country appear backward and often only serves to highlight items of news which most people would otherwise never have heard of. Certainly that was the case for me with the last round of "missing pages". Do you think they will block discussion of our missing lawyer Somchai ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 meanwhile...Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites SYDNEY, Australia - A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries. Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government. Associated Press / 2008-12-26 Because it was in the small print on the new government's election platform, the dimwit Minister is claiming to have a mandate to introduce this nonsense. There is a protest group setup already fighting it. It will probably get installed, then the outrage and technical problems will cause it to be removed and the Minister quietly reassigned to counting kangaroos in some desolate part of the outback. It would be nice if his Thai counterpart could join him. Seems he has little sense for a long term career in politics. It's interesting that the targeted blocking by Australia is for sites that have nothing to do with lese majeste and thus in that regard it seems like the stated reasons are far more tenuous than Thailand's targeting and consequently are much more in line with what what people are complaining about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlRedEyes Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) meanwhile...Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites SYDNEY, Australia - A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries. Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government. Associated Press / 2008-12-26 Because it was in the small print on the new government's election platform, the dimwit Minister is claiming to have a mandate to introduce this nonsense. There is a protest group setup already fighting it. It will probably get installed, then the outrage and technical problems will cause it to be removed and the Minister quietly reassigned to counting kangaroos in some desolate part of the outback. It would be nice if his Thai counterpart could join him. Seems he has little sense for a long term career in politics. It's interesting that the targeted blocking by Australia is for sites that have nothing to do with lese majeste and thus in that regard it seems like the stated reasons are far more tenuous than Thailand's targeting and consequently are much more in line with what what people are complaining about. It is MOST interesting that a poster who seems to spend an inordinate amount of time bringing us the news, seems to defend, and probably condone, censorship of ANY kind. But then, it's also been noted that your 'news' postings are 'enhanced' to bring home your personal message. Propaganda? Edited January 1, 2009 by OlRedEyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) meanwhile...Uproar in Australia over plan to block Web sites SYDNEY, Australia - A proposed Internet filter dubbed the "Great Aussie Firewall" is promising to make Australia one of the strictest Internet regulators among democratic countries. Consumers, civil-rights activists, engineers, Internet providers and politicians from opposition parties are among the critics of a mandatory Internet filter that would block at least 1,300 Web sites prohibited by the government. Associated Press / 2008-12-26 Because it was in the small print on the new government's election platform, the dimwit Minister is claiming to have a mandate to introduce this nonsense. There is a protest group setup already fighting it. It will probably get installed, then the outrage and technical problems will cause it to be removed and the Minister quietly reassigned to counting kangaroos in some desolate part of the outback. It would be nice if his Thai counterpart could join him. Seems he has little sense for a long term career in politics. It's interesting that the targeted blocking by Australia is for sites that have nothing to do with lese majeste and thus in that regard it seems like the stated reasons are far more tenuous than Thailand's targeting and consequently are much more in line with what what people are complaining about. It is MOST interesting that a poster who seems to spend an inordinate amount of time bringing us the news, seems to defend, and probably condone, censorship of ANY kind. But then, it's also been noted that your 'news' postings are 'enhanced' to bring home your personal message. Propaganda? It is the pinnacle of interest that a poster would make unfounded and untrue accusations against someone who is interested in seeing examples of previous posts whereby that someone condones censorship. I'd be interested as well in seeing examples of news posts that are "enhanced" (whatever that is attempting to imply). Flaming? Edited January 1, 2009 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlRedEyes Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) Not flaming SJ. You are well aware of a recent thread where you added old images to a new story to create bias. Ignoring previous posts on the same subject, just look back to your quoted reply to Gravelrash's post. It is apologetic of censorship in Thailand. And it is far from being an isolated case. This is your right. You do not profess to be a journalist. Board members should however be aware that what you are posting is coming from a biased viewpoint, not - as I stupidly assumed for so long - to fulfill a need for BM's to be informed of news. Edited January 1, 2009 by OlRedEyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Not flaming SJ. You are well aware of a recent thread where you added old images to a new story to create bias.Ignoring previous posts on the same subject, just look back to your quoted reply to Gravelrash's post. It is apologetic of censorship in Thailand. And it is far from isolated. So you thought that the UDD's daring challenge for MP's to walk through a gauntlet of protesters to enter Parliament was reasonable? Posting a photo that reflects the absurdity of their statements is hardly bias... it's just pointing out the reality of their insanity. To point out that other places are also wrong for doing the same thing that Thailand is doing wrong is an apologetic stance for Thailand? Logic? Any other false examples of my defending censorship you care to point out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlRedEyes Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 This is your right. You do not profess to be a journalist. Board members should however be aware that what you are posting is coming from a biased viewpoint, not - as I stupidly assumed for so long - to fulfill a need for BM's to be informed of news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 This is your right. You do not profess to be a journalist. Board members should however be aware that what you are posting is coming from a biased viewpoint, not - as I stupidly assumed for so long - to fulfill a need for BM's to be informed of news. I have a personal viewpoint. That is something that every single member of this forum possesses and is something that everyone is free to present in compliance with forum rules. Every member posting news is exactly the same. You can call it bias if you choose, or... you can just call it a personal opinion. If being a human and not being a robotic newsfeed has disappointed you, then... sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Moving past the bitch fight Blocking sites insulting the monarchy? The truth is blocking sites where any discussion on the Monarchy is occurring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Moving past the bitch fight Blocking sites insulting the monarchy? The truth is blocking sites where any discussion on the Monarchy is occurring. Which would mean that we can't discuss this topic in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 We discuss only the discussion, not the topic itself. In its anticipatory obedience, any discussion about the topic would cause the moderators to close the topic and even delete the posts. It's kind of hard and difficult to understand for any "farang" (or at least for me) that we cannot discuss a specific topic, not even in a civilized way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangyai Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Moving past the bitch fight Blocking sites insulting the monarchy? The truth is blocking sites where any discussion on the Monarchy is occurring. This has been discussed on another thread but just in case anyone missed it here is a link to what prachatai discovered when it checked out sites alleged by the democrats to have LM content : http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=655 Seems that almost none of the sites in question had LM content but were critical of the Democrats. So it looks like this is being pushed to silence anyone critical of the govournment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Moving past the bitch fight Blocking sites insulting the monarchy? The truth is blocking sites where any discussion on the Monarchy is occurring. This has been discussed on another thread but just in case anyone missed it here is a link to what prachatai discovered when it checked out sites alleged by the democrats to have LM content : http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=655 Seems that almost none of the sites in question had LM content but were critical of the Democrats. So it looks like this is being pushed to silence anyone critical of the govournment. There is of course a logical deduction that can made from this - a bit like adding 2 + 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangyai Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Moving past the bitch fight Blocking sites insulting the monarchy? The truth is blocking sites where any discussion on the Monarchy is occurring. This has been discussed on another thread but just in case anyone missed it here is a link to what prachatai discovered when it checked out sites alleged by the democrats to have LM content : http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=655 Seems that almost none of the sites in question had LM content but were critical of the Democrats. So it looks like this is being pushed to silence anyone critical of the govournment. There is of course a logical deduction that can made from this - a bit like adding 2 + 2 More from prachatai on the same theme : http://www.prachatai.com/english/news.php?id=921 It does not seem too paranoid to suppose that if one of these 800 battalion commanders with decent English were to read some of the posts on TV they might not be amused about quiet a lot of things over and above LM. Hmmm.... has anything ever been said that might offend General Anupong for instance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) I must admit , looking at madam minister's [Ranongrak Suwanchawee] history, with close ties to TRT and then the switch to the Democrats even after being in Samak's govt; I can't help wondering if her debt situation is still as it is stated here. Or whether she has miraculously elevated those figures into the "black". 5 poorest MPs Maybe she has "seen the light" to financial salvation and is "preaching the gospel" accordingly. Ranongrak Suwanchawee being the new ICT minister and thus in charge of internet & censorship. Edited January 2, 2009 by cmsally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffer Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Fascinating opinion article by Wassana nanuam in The Bangkok Post on New Years Day. Maybe soon we will be welcoming new Thai Visa member Kuhn 6080 Ad Hoc Unit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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