sriracha john Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Storm dance A young girl's pole dance raises eyebrows and brings warnings A provocative dance may attract huge crowds almost anywhere, but a little pole dancer here has caused public outrage. In video clips posted on many websites, a pre-puberty girl waves her hips and moves sexually around a pole. The background suggests she must have been at a big event or perhaps the motor show. "Several viewers have comฌplained that the use of a young girl for such a dance is totally inappropriate," Culture Watch Centre director Ladda Tangsupachai said yesterday. "The girl seems to be just about 10 years old." She said her centre would try to find out where the little pole dancer had performed. "Our officials will check whether the video clips were filmed at the Bangkok International Trade & Exhibition Centre (Bitec)," Ladda said. Open to the public since March 26, the 30th Bangkok International Motor Show is on till April 6 at Bitec. However, the committee orฌganising the motor show yesฌterday firmly rejected any suggestion that the child pole dancer was at its event. "We have a strict rule that all dancers on stage must be over 18 years old," Jaturont Komolmis said in his capacity as the organising committee's deputy chair. He said the rule carried penalties in the form of a six-figure fine and a ban from the motor show. "The motor show involves a very big business. We are not going to do anything that will ruin our image," Jaturont said. According to him, up to 10 plainclothes policemen and seven staff members are paฌtrolling the motor show's venue each day to ensure that there are no inappropriate things goฌing on. On March 29, police also arrested a group of scantily clad girls for dancing around and posing for video cameras. "These girls are not part of our motor show. Their clothes are much more revealing than those who really work here," Jaturont said. He suspected that someone might have tried to damage the Bangkok International Motor Show's reputation by claiming that a very young girl performed a pole dance there. Ladda said her centre would also dispatch its officials to big events including the annual Thai Red Cross fair and OTOP fairs. "If we find anything inappropriate, we will issue warnings," Ladda said. She planned to ask Royal Thai Police's Children, Juveniles and Women Division and the Human Security and Social Development Ministry to take action. "The ministry is armed with laws that can protect the children including any girl that might have been exploited," Ladda said. - The Nation / 2009-04-03 Edited April 3, 2009 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farseer Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 fake credits cards, rude behaviour, alleged working without a permit, blacklisted people, porn and now pole dancing, where will it end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassienie Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Fake preteen pole dancers, that`s a new one. I`m sorry to say, but the freedom of the Internet is not a good thing. How the ISPs can censor this sick crap is anyone`s guess. Impossible I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc2 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 its a big thing in the states too, dressing little 7 year old girls up in full make up and womens clothing then doing dances, imitating grown up women. ive always thought it in bad taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patklang Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 its a big thing in the states too, dressing little 7 year old girls up in full make up and womens clothing then doing dances, imitating grown up women.ive always thought it in bad taste. Always thought that myself with these pageants,and should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 its a big thing in the states too, dressing little 7 year old girls up in full make up and womens clothing then doing dances, imitating grown up women.ive always thought it in bad taste. what is bad taste/stupid and what is pedophile? Difficult to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Is anyone really surprised by this? Not enough people care enough to make a stink about a lot of things... so anything goes. TheWalkingMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert44 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 How to ban -I think only parents can do or you will end up having to ban all dancing by children under the age of 18. Children copy adults and what they see around them. In most cases like this they are encouraged to do so by their peers and sometimes as they can earn money from the people watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) its a big thing in the states too, dressing little 7 year old girls up in full make up and womens clothing then doing dances, imitating grown up women.ive always thought it in bad taste. Always thought that myself with these pageants,and should be banned It's a network of demonic stage mothers from hel_l, each trying to make their lil darling the next Uber Shirly Temple's. But as it escalates, they become mini Britany Spears, without the self control. Disgusting. Of course young girls have ALWAYS snuck intopmom's closet and tried to dress up like mom, Usually in mommy's 'fancy clothes'. This is a normal role playing thing during childhood and not a bad thing. It's when the mothers get stars in their eyes in all goes to crap. And pre-teen girls have always tried to imitate the teen girls around their lives too. So if this little pole dance was provocative she probably reflected society, in her innocence to just tray and seem older than her age. As all young girls try to do. Edited April 3, 2009 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Uh, since the dance is clearly not pornographic it cannot be a pedo-thing... But go ahead, have your outcry on what other people should and shouldn't do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barky Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Yes you are right animatic. Young girls often dress up like a grown ups. It seems quite natural. No big deal....NORMALLY. But, pole dancing (particularly in Thailand, the prostitute hub of the world) is generally seen as a sexual titilating activity. In the privacy of ones home is one thing, but I would never allow my young daughter to do this in public. The parents should be ashamed. Maybe the parents are just grooming her for her expected future career. Edited April 3, 2009 by barky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalist Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Link? Unless we see the darn thing, impossible to opine if its titillating or not. (However if you find it titillating - don't admit it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 its a big thing in the states too, dressing little 7 year old girls up in full make up and womens clothing then doing dances, imitating grown up women.ive always thought it in bad taste. I think that the whole thing is a bit of "a mountain out of a mole hill" thing (no pun intended). Does the little girl feel that she is being used as a sexual object for the twisted pleasure of others? Perhaps its the echo's of our own prejudices that are on show here. After all the girl is just dancing fully clothed, expecting everyone to think she is just "cute" and wishing her well! Look to your own inner demons and be ashamed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 At least they go a bit of free promotion Motor Show sees orders of around 8,000 cars in first seven days BANGKOK: -- The 30th Bangkok International Motor Show reported reservation orders of 8,000 car units during the first seven days (March 26-April 1) of the fair. Most of the hot-picked cars have price range between from Bt700,000 to Bt3 million. The show expects total booking this year of around 15,000 units, similar to the last year's figure. The event will end on April 6. -- The Nation 2009-04-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camerata Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 On March 29, police also arrested a group of scantily clad girls for dancing around and posing for video cameras. Arrested them on what charge - criminal inappropriateness? Endangering national security? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Does the little girl feel that she is being used as a sexual object for the twisted pleasure of others? Does it mean it's ok if she doesn't feel it? How about raping toddlers, or people in coma? >>> Dance might not be pornographic, but sexually provocative nevertheless. Apparently you are condemned only if you publicly admit it's titillating. If you learn to keep it to yourself, you get to protect your right to enjoy it and start a crusade against "perverts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalist Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Perhaps the kid can teach some of the Soi Cowboy girls. Because most of them are useless at pole dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Does the little girl feel that she is being used as a sexual object for the twisted pleasure of others? Does it mean it's ok if she doesn't feel it? How about raping toddlers, or people in coma? >>> Dance might not be pornographic, but sexually provocative nevertheless. Apparently you are condemned only if you publicly admit it's titillating. If you learn to keep it to yourself, you get to protect your right to enjoy it and start a crusade against "perverts". Yes, it would be ok if she didn't feel it...after all she's the one doing the dance? The rest of us can look away if we find it tittilating or in some way offensive...lets not be too ethnocentric about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Dance might not be pornographic, but sexually provocative nevertheless. Not when a child is doing it. Yuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesjdaly Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 "We have a strict rule that all dancers on stage must be over 18 years old," Jaturont Komolmis said in his capacity as the organising committee's deputy chair. And just how the h3ll do dancers sell cars? If I want to buy a car, I'll look under the bonnet/hood, and not up a whore's skirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 We had stuff like that in the UK in the 80's, a show called "Minipops". Young kids dressed up as their favourite stars performing the numbers complete with dance. Sample No way would you get away with this now, but it's not so different, or is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QED Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Just been up to the village north of Chiang Rai where they had a party on for a few days, and all the local girls from 6-14 were up on stage dancing both nights, impossible to get the buggers off it! Granted there were no poles but I am sure the dance was not far off what this girl was doing. Therefore everyone in that village is a paedo right? Oh and me too as I was watching my nieces dancing? Jeez get over it, girls of this age just want to dance at any given opportunity, if you find it offensive then it is probably something to do with your own guilty conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Dance might not be pornographic, but sexually provocative nevertheless. Wait, what? That sounds like pedo-talk to me. Most of us wouldn't be sexually provoked by her at all. For crying out loud, pedo's might find the sight of a 2-3 year old naked on a beach titillating...should therefor it be banned to have our kids bath in the ocean? There exists men that like to dress up as babies in dipers...let's ban dipers? There has to be a limit to this nonsense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungy007 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 On March 29, police also arrested a group of scantily clad girls for dancing around and posing for video cameras. Arrested them on what charge - criminal inappropriateness? Endangering national security? For wearing scanties in a built up area without a permit whilst within the city limits and in cycling distance of a temple, of course. Don't you know anything? (Hee, hee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibeymai Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Hear hear TAWP. The pole is simply a prop, just like any other prop used in dance. Anyone who thinks it's sexual needs to see a psychologist. Should we ban little girls from gymnastics because it involves poles ? Edited April 3, 2009 by sibeymai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Most of us wouldn't be sexually provoked by her at all. Yet there's obvious reaction, so much that it got noted by the media. Somebody must have felt something. >>> I'm not sure it's pedophilia, just like being fooled by a Katoey doesn't mean you are attracted to men and therefore gay. Edited April 3, 2009 by Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibeymai Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 (edited) Kids are bombarded by sexual dance images constantly. Not surprising a 10 year old girl can decide she wants to perform a similar style and emulate her role models or those she wants to emulate. So, it's ok for Tiger Woods to start playing golf at 3 years old, but if a girl wants to become a famous dancer she's supposed to wait until anything she does can not be construed as sexual, or she has to wait until she's at least 18 before she does anything like that. I guess Hollywood wouldn't have missed Shirly Temple or the world any other child prodigies. This whole PC and sexual phobia thing in society is getting out of hand. It's not the kids with the problem for sure. Edited April 3, 2009 by sibeymai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 It's not the kids with the problem for sure. Who said it was HER problem? Tiger Woods analogy can work only so far. What if she tried to emulate her favourite adult actress and not a dancer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetitan99 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 its a big thing in the states too, dressing little 7 year old girls up in full make up and womens clothing then doing dances, imitating grown up women.ive always thought it in bad taste. Remember the stellar types involved in the murder of Jean-Benet Ramsey, one of these poor little girls who's murder is still unsolved mainly because every one involved with these "Kiddie Pagents" was a class-A sh*tbag!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokrick Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Hear hear TAWP.The pole is simply a prop, just like any other prop used in dance. Anyone who thinks it's sexual needs to see a psychologist. Should we ban little girls from gymnastics because it involves poles ? Agree. Define provocative? Take a walk around any country in the world and you will see similar, but because it's Thailand .......? Cheers, Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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