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My family and I will be back in Thailand for only the second time in 18 years. When my wife presented herself for the new digital passport here in Oz, one of the ladies doing the fingerprinting and photographing made a big thing about my wifes identity card (which are issued at the local amphur) was so long out of date. My wife wants to renew this card on our visit but is concerned that the Amphur will give her a problem and may demand an extortionate amount to get this done due to the period since the last renewal.

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge in respect to this matter? All asssistance will be much appreciated.

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no problem but the amphur will want some late fee, they wouldn't give her any trouble

My stepsister had to pay around 300 bths when hers expired about 20 yrs ago. This was a few years back, in Bkk

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no problem but the amphur will want some late fee, they wouldn't give her any trouble

My stepsister had to pay around 300 bths when hers expired about 20 yrs ago. This was a few years back, in Bkk

That sounds OK even if fees/penalties have increased by a factor of 10 since that time. My wife is evisaging 30,000Bht which would be ridiculous. I'm saying if that was the case forget it, as I'm sure it's not essential if she has a current passport. Thanks for that.

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no problem but the amphur will want some late fee, they wouldn't give her any trouble

My stepsister had to pay around 300 bths when hers expired about 20 yrs ago. This was a few years back, in Bkk

That sounds OK even if fees/penalties have increased by a factor of 10 since that time. My wife is evisaging 30,000Bht which would be ridiculous. I'm saying if that was the case forget it, as I'm sure it's not essential if she has a current passport. Thanks for that.

Since that time!?....it's only been couple of years since she had to pay that FINE....lol

BUT 30,000 bths NOW - for 3 yrs later?.....u just got to be kidding!

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From Department of Local Administration website.

Personal Identification Card Renewal (in case of expiration)

Upon expiration of an old Identification Card, the applicant must file for card renewal within 60 days of the date of expiration. No service fee is required. Upon failure to file for a new card, the person will be fined 200 baht.

Required Documents

Copy of House Registration Certificate.

Identification Card which has expired.

Source: http://www.dopa.go.th/English/servi/bp2.htm

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Ubon

The problem is ....diff amphur will still charge you differently, because they think they can. Also it depends on whom you are dealing with at the amphur at the time and the lenght of expiration.

However your fine shouldn't deviate too far from the 200 bths set fine.

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Ubon

The problem is ....diff amphur will still charge you differently, because they think they can. Also it depends on whom you are dealing with at the amphur at the time and the lenght of expiration.

However your fine shouldn't deviate too far from the 200 bths set fine.

Yeah it's just that sort of local bastardy that concerns me, but it's really the fear of authority that seems to be inherent in many Thais that gets to my wife. She has heard figures like 200-300Bht but fears that the amphur might multiply that by the number of years since renewal eg 18 x 200 = 3,600Bht, times a fear factor of 10. Many girls from small villages with limited exposure to authority have such fears, eight years ago the Immigration guy at entry in Don Muang gave her a hard time because she never had her old passport with her that showed her date of leaving Thailand which had been 10 years earlier.

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chonburi,

I just did a renewal on my Thai i.d in BKK two weeks ago.

Mine was expired since last October. It wasn't busy at the umpher by the time I walked in. Went to one of the ladies at the counter, handed her my old card, she said 120 baht, I handed her 2x100 baht bills, and got my change back, she handed a sheet of paper for me to sign. Few minutes later, the other lady had my picture taken, waited a few more mn, then walked out with my new i.d..

Words of encourage, there are some nice people working at the umpher too, just hope your Mrs. is lucky enough to get a good one who takes pride in therir job, not the mean one who looking to make extra bucks.

Have a great day!

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Ubon

The problem is ....diff amphur will still charge you differently, because they think they can. Also it depends on whom you are dealing with at the amphur at the time and the lenght of expiration.

However your fine shouldn't deviate too far from the 200 bths set fine.

Yeah it's just that sort of local bastardy that concerns me, but it's really the fear of authority that seems to be inherent in many Thais that gets to my wife. She has heard figures like 200-300Bht but fears that the amphur might multiply that by the number of years since renewal eg 18 x 200 = 3,600Bht, times a fear factor of 10. Many girls from small villages with limited exposure to authority have such fears, eight years ago the Immigration guy at entry in Don Muang gave her a hard time because she never had her old passport with her that showed her date of leaving Thailand which had been 10 years earlier.

If you go to a Amphoe in one of the larger cities the chance of a rip off would be greater. But at one the local Amphoe's in a rural area it is unlikely that they would charge you more than the official fee or possibly not even collect it.

As the village head person my wife deals with the one here all the time when somebody needs help getting it done. The don't charge anything most of the time.

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chonburi,

I just did a renewal on my Thai i.d in BKK two weeks ago.

Mine was expired since last October. It wasn't busy at the umpher by the time I walked in. Went to one of the ladies at the counter, handed her my old card, she said 120 baht, I handed her 2x100 baht bills, and got my change back, she handed a sheet of paper for me to sign. Few minutes later, the other lady had my picture taken, waited a few more mn, then walked out with my new i.d..

Words of encourage, there are some nice people working at the umpher too, just hope your Mrs. is lucky enough to get a good one who takes pride in therir job, not the mean one who looking to make extra bucks.

Have a great day!

Thank you Tinkelbell and everyone that replied to my query. Your answers have made my wife so much more comfortable at the thought of going to get this done.

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