slapout Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 markaew; I heard the Brits???? are going back into the aggressive colonization mode, the targets are going to be foodstuffs, oil, drug, furs, timber,precious metal/gemstones, producing/ transshipment countries. They are also looking for a penal colony to send the outcasts from the colonies. The criteria for this colony is a place where the influx of outcasts will not adversely affect the local population, their way of life and their standard of living. Criminals without a country will be included in the penal colony transfer system. Under this program mr T may eventually return home and live in a manner more suited to his background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 They didn't have to pay bribes to the cops with Thaksin around. You are joking, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 They didn't have to pay bribes to the cops with Thaksin around. Wrong forum, Jokes is posted in another sub-section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 They didn't have to pay bribes to the cops with Thaksin around. You are joking, right. No the boss says to be serious, so he MUST be. Never ceases to amaze me the utter tripe put out in Thaksin's name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markaew Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Call this tripe if you wish but I have had many discussions with motorbike taxi and they all say they have to pay a minimum of 60,000 just to be allowed to have a "home base" to work from, along with taxi drivers that want to claim a territory to work from. They ALL said they didn't have to pay this money with Thaksin in power. Everybody worked where they wanted. They hate this new PM. They don't call him Mr. PM, they call him "Mark" out of disrespect. They also say Mark will never travel north or south because he is afraid it would be a one way ticket. Mark stays close to the money people in BKK and the Air Con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 They also say Mark will never travel north or south because he is afraid it would be a one way ticket. Mark stays close to the money people in BKK and the Air Con. Not quite. The base for the Thai democratic party is SOUTH Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sao Jiang Mai Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 And the fact that he is in danger in these territories is something good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) And the fact that he is in danger in these territories is something good? At least he's not a convicted fugitive like squarehead. I think any Thai PM needs security in the Muslim areas of the south, nothing unusual about that. The Bangkok transport types are a big part of the base of the red shirt thugs, wouldn't be surprised if MONEY is behind that. Edited July 30, 2009 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) Call this tripe if you wish but I have had many discussions with motorbike taxi and they all say they have to pay a minimum of 60,000 just to be allowed to have a "home base" to work from, along with taxi drivers that want to claim a territory to work from. They ALL said they didn't have to pay this money with Thaksin in power. Everybody worked where they wanted. They hate this new PM. They don't call him Mr. PM, they call him "Mark" out of disrespect.They also say Mark will never travel north or south because he is afraid it would be a one way ticket. Mark stays close to the money people in BKK and the Air Con. Everybody worked where they wanted. They hate this new PM. The many motocy guys I met have told me a different story... /edit by WF Edited July 30, 2009 by webfact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Call this tripe if you wish but I have had many discussions with motorbike taxi and they all say they have to pay a minimum of 60,000 just to be allowed to have a "home base" to work from, along with taxi drivers that want to claim a territory to work from. They ALL said they didn't have to pay this money with Thaksin in power. Everybody worked where they wanted. They hate this new PM. They don't call him Mr. PM, they call him "Mark" out of disrespect.They also say Mark will never travel north or south because he is afraid it would be a one way ticket. Mark stays close to the money people in BKK and the Air Con. This is what the news-forum is being reduced to lately. Newly registered red fans that spout lies and half-truths and absolute nothing to back them up. Over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 This is what the news-forum is being reduced to lately. Newly registered red fans that spout lies and half-truths and absolute nothing to back them up. Over and over again. Well sure, this is the basic foundation behind stimulation. Repeated often enough/brought to one's attention time and again - it becomes real and true. The whole spectrum, regardless of one's political and social convictions. Most are susceptible to the easiest form of social engineering. Without independent, original, nor critical thought. Speaking of hypnosis, I dare to say that most Westerners are not really attached to respective Thai political indentities, but instead catch the fashionable wave as they believe they understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markaew Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 This is what the news-forum is being reduced to lately. Newly registered red fans that spout lies and half-truths and absolute nothing to back them up. Over and over again. Well sure, this is the basic foundation behind stimulation. Repeated often enough/brought to one's attention time and again - it becomes real and true. The whole spectrum, regardless of one's political and social convictions. Most are susceptible to the easiest form of social engineering. Without independent, original, nor critical thought. Speaking of hypnosis, I dare to say that most Westerners are not really attached to respective Thai political indentities, but instead catch the fashionable wave as they believe they understand. Catching a fashionable wave is hardly the point here. I am only reflecting what the people on the street are saying. I do listen to other opinions before I form my own opinion. It's called forming an informed opinion. You should try it sometime it might make you sound a little smarter. Also, if you want to appear a bit smarter you should correct your spelling. BY THE WAY...I didn't know you were part of the fashion police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBloodyWilson Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 This is what the news-forum is being reduced to lately. Newly registered red fans that spout lies and half-truths and absolute nothing to back them up. Over and over again. Well sure, this is the basic foundation behind stimulation. Repeated often enough/brought to one's attention time and again - it becomes real and true. The whole spectrum, regardless of one's political and social convictions. Most are susceptible to the easiest form of social engineering. Without independent, original, nor critical thought. Speaking of hypnosis, I dare to say that most Westerners are not really attached to respective Thai political indentities, but instead catch the fashionable wave as they believe they understand. Catching a fashionable wave is hardly the point here. I am only reflecting what the people on the street are saying. I do listen to other opinions before I form my own opinion. It's called forming an informed opinion. You should try it sometime it might make you sound a little smarter. Also, if you want to appear a bit smarter you should correct your spelling. BY THE WAY...I didn't know you were part of the fashion police. Was there something wrong with the spelling? I didn't spot it Certainly he is right about the propaganda thing, the lie, oft enough told, becomes the truth [Lenin I think - and he should know]. Syntax certainly but that is more a question of style. Style police? Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plus Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 There was a campaign in Thaksin's days to issue motorsais with new jackets, taking them out of the control of the usual motorsai's mafia with their "entrance fees" and extortion. No one mentioned anything about paying off the police. Services like that pay the police not to be harassed at traffic checkpoints for minor offences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) There was a campaign in Thaksin's days to issue motorsais with new jackets, taking them out of the control of the usual motorsai's mafia with their "entrance fees" and extortion. No one mentioned anything about paying off the police. Services like that pay the police not to be harassed at traffic checkpoints for minor offences. One thing missed or ignored in this discusion, is that Thaksin was making an obvious and concerted effort to sway the motorcycle and regular taxi drivers ( mostly issanese) into something resembling a private street army. He succeeded by many reports. So if he did lower the hit for some of these guys, it was partly for the street power he was buiilding and partly for the word sent home about how Thaksin helped the Issan drivers etc etc. Basically it was swapping Thaksins mafia for the old one, just a different method of payment: you defend the boss, and things go good for you. He was the uber-policeman, and knew the street well, back off some street mafia types and co-op their marks into your own personal grateful legion. Then sic them on your enemies.... It was smart, but not the wonderful altruistic world painted by some here, who can't see past their nose or his paycheck. Edited July 31, 2009 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 One thing missed or ignored in this discusion, is that Thaksin was making an obvious and concerted effortto sway the motorcycle and regular taxi drivers ( mostly issanese) into something resembling a private street army. Yes, exactly. Thanks for expanding on my previous comment about this: The Bangkok transport types are a big part of the base of the red shirt thugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 The birthday of a criminal fugitive leader of a failed revolution by street thugs. This is something to celebrate? Hopefully his last birthday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koo82 Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 His last Birthday overseas . Next Birthday may be held in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted August 3, 2009 Share Posted August 3, 2009 His last Birthday overseas . Next Birthday may be held in Thailand. By George, I think she is in love! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 His last Birthday overseas . Next Birthday may be held in Thailand. Great! We will have a party at the Bangkok Hilton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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