Masons in Thailand

[elliss]

forget the nod and wink ,

just shake hands .[ preferably when sober]

[chuchok]

I have nothing against Masons at all. What amazes me is the influence they have,or maybe I should say did have.We, as farangs in Thailand are very quick to criticise Thais if they get off a certain criminal charge because of who they are and how wealthy they are, yet the Masons have been doing this for years...looking after their own.

And before any of you goat riders flame me, I do know that masons do alot of good and are generally good people.

[akai]

secret of masonic is make man a better

masonic is not have any secret and we dont have plan to control the world

the davinci code /national treasure movie is a fiction we are fraternal organization and try to help other people and helpful together

masonic is a best way of life

who know how many masonic in thai? about 100-200 really?

[Jai Dee]

akai said:

who know how many masonic in thai? about 100-200 really?

B. Steve,

I suggest you have a word with your WM who can then perhaps establish contact and make an introduction for you.

It may be more beneficial than going in cold.

From your earlier posts you have said that you are a MM from the Grand Lodge of California.

I am sure that you will be made welcome in BKK.

[TRIPxCORE]

what is illuminati ? secret social? I am master mason form grand lodge of california it dont have any secret in masonic !! now I have a long term bussiness in bangkok area of smile country

Illuminati is only shown to a few select members and these members are selected very carefully. You are considered for inclusion into Illuminati only upon reaching very high degrees of Masonry such as 32nd or 33rd degree. Most likely, you will never be chosen for inclusion simply because its kind of like hitting the lottery.

secret of masonic is make man a better

masonic is not have  any secret and we dont have plan to control the world

the davinci code /national treasure movie is a fiction  we are fraternal organization and try to help other people and helpful together

masonic is a best way of life

Masonry does have secrets and many plans. These plans are only revealed to the Illuminati members. Sorry.

A breeding ground for Illuminati members is at the Yale University society of Skull & Bones. Most will never know what the plans are until they come to fruition.

If you want any hint of what plans are being hatched by the Illuminati, read press releases, journals, newsletters and correspondence from the following orginazations:

-Council on Foreign Relations

-Trilateral Commission

-World Bank

-International Monetary Fund

-World Health Organization

-Club of Rome

I see no reason to hide all of this anymore as the control of the world is firmly in the hands of the Illuminati and nobody could do much to prevent anything at this point.

"The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could

use the differences in those two

so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism]

to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger

and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could

be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and

destroying each other."

- Myron Fagan -

Edited March 9, 2005 by tripxcore

[akai]

hello Mr. tripxcore

if masonic have many plan ans secret why no one tell me I am 3 degree only my degree teach about love relief helpful how to a better man I dont know about secret or masonic plan

my worshipful master said that masonic dont control the world and dont have relation with illuminati he is 33 degree

do it have other fraternal org. in thai please explain more detail about illuminati I live in usa if i interest in illuminati how do i do ? can i join illuminati ?

[aaaaaa]

me too me too, MR Trip !

[Sir Burr]

Any real Illuminati member would never tell you he was a member.

Akai - I think tripxcore is winding you up.

I'm of the Groucho Marx school of thought. "I would never want to join a club that would accept me as a member".

Personally, I think Masons, Illuminati and basically any society that you have to be "invited" to join is usually filled with elitist social climbers.

Just my own worthless opinion.

[TRIPxCORE]

hello Mr. tripxcore

if masonic have many plan ans secret why no one tell me I am 3 degree only my degree teach about  love relief  helpful  how to a better man I dont know about secret or masonic plan

  my worshipful master  said that  masonic dont control the world  and dont have relation with illuminati he is 33 degree

  do it have other fraternal org. in thai  please explain more detail about illuminati I live in usa if i interest in illuminati  how do i do ?  can i join illuminati ?

Are you serious???? You have to be joking.

Any real Illuminati member would never tell you he was a member.

Akai - I think tripxcore is winding you up.

I'm of the Groucho Marx school of thought. "I would never want to join a club that would accept me as a member".

Personally, I think Masons, Illuminati and basically any society that you have to be "invited" to join is usually filled with elitist social climbers.

Just my own worthless opinion.

You are right Sir Burr, normally Illuminati members would never tell you as such but as I stated before, I don't see the need for the secrecy anymore. Am I really Illuminati???????? Hmmmmm.....................................disinformation and misinformation is one of the Illuminati trademarks. Everything is an enigma wrapped up inside of a riddle that's hidden in a locked vault. We too have a hierarchy.

[aaaaaa]

Sir Burr said:

Personally, I think Masons, Illuminati and basically any society that you have to be "invited" to join is usually filled with elitist social climbers.

I like this phrase ! reminds me of something recent around here - similar club ....

[Simbo]

tripxcore said:

akai said:

ok thank you so much Mr. Jai dee are you masonic?  who is masonic in this webboard please show oneself

Welcome brothers!

Senior Illuminati Member

SHUSH ! Remember OMERTA !!! 

[Jai Dee]

Status as a Freemason is not required for initiation into the Order of Illuminati.

In fact, tripxcore's postings are most un-Masonic.

[akai]

Hello mr. tripxcore and anyone

I dont kid because I become masonic about 1 year only and dont know anything about illuminati maybe i must to learn more and more about fraternal org

ok. I will call a spade a spade masonic have handshack /ritual/passward secret it open for master degree only masonic is not for everybody worth people only can become masonic we invite for worth people who are rich /elite /multimillionaire/rooting-tooting

[Sir Burr]

Akai, thank you for proving my point re elitist social climbers.

[Jai Dee]

but now why i dont know about illuminati and masonic ? please tell me

Why don't you send tripxcore a PM?

I for one, do not wish to know any more than I do now.

[bina]

actually,

my grandfather was a mason (he actually really was an original as he was a tile layer in new york, he did the tunnels under the river etc ) ; he belonged to the jewish (!) branch -- a rare thing i know-- but they were also slightly socialist oriented and politically active for rights of workers in the garment districts etc.... i have his old /new testament given to him from his lodge: eden lodge no. 1039 F. & A. M.

and trust me, he was not rich, although middle working class from bronx, not low class brooklyn (quoting my mother)

his bible is specifically organzied for jewish members, w/ maps of the holyland, jewish calendar etc.... and the king james version of the new testament too....

nothing to do w/ thailand just brought back memories and found the bible on my book shelf full of dust...

[akai]

hello

freemason webboard in

http://www.meetup.com

 

truth me! masonic in thai for elite people only I am masonic I know!!

[Sir Burr]

truth me! masonic in thai for elite people only  I am masonic I know!!

Modesty is obviously not one of your vices is it Akai?

Seems like you are a legend in your own under-pants!

[Jai Dee]

truth me! masonic in thai for elite people only  I am masonic I know!!

Are you really from California akai?

Are you really a Freemason?

Do you remember your obligations?

You too are beginning to display non-Masonic tendencies.

I am starting to smell a troll...

[Boon Mee]

Jai Dee said:

akai said:

truth me! masonic in thai for elite people only  I am masonic I know!!

 

Are you really from California akai?

Are you really a Freemason?

Do you remember your obligations?

You too are beginning to display non-Masonic tendencies.

I am starting to smell a troll...

 

As been said earlier in this thread - this is not the venue to be discussing Freemasonary in other than broad terms.

It's not a secret society but a society of "secrets" that are only reveled to those who put forth effort to learn. If one is sufficiently motivated he will "knock & he shall enter"

Having said all that it's still the world's largest philanthropic orginization that does enormous good. 

[akai]

mr . jai dee thank you for your remindful about obligations i live in square at california <now I live at bangkok>and I think no reason to cover up the truth everybody need truth about masonic

when i search for thai masonic i know about someone who can speak eng very well and be well off for pay fee cost membership 16000 / year only can join masonic

what does it mean? it mean millionaire only can join at any lodge in thai money is not my problem? I really want to honest to goodness

it nothing masonic secret

[Jai Dee]

when i search for thai masonic  i know about someone who can speak eng very well

I am sorry B.akai, I cannot help you as I do not know any Masons in BKK.

I suggest again that you contact your WM in California to set up an introduction for you.

Good luck.

[mouse]

ok thank you so much Mr. Jai dee are you masonic?  who is masonic in this webboard please show oneself

Just kept going east and here I am in Thailand.

[TRIPxCORE]

Status as a Freemason is not required for initiation into the Order of Illuminati.

In fact, tripxcore's postings are most un-Masonic. 

You see, thats exactly what I was talking about.......disinformation.

Hello mr. tripxcore and anyone

I dont kid because I become masonic about 1 year only and dont know anything about illuminati  maybe i must to learn more and more about fraternal org

but now why i dont know about illuminati and masonic ? please tell me

As I stated before, you cannot be serious?

Are you really from California akai?

Are you really a Freemason?

Do you remember your obligations?

You too are beginning to display non-Masonic tendencies. 

I am starting to smell a troll...

I too am beginning to smell something funny. If you are from California Akai, why is your English ability so poor? Why do you keep asking me to tell you about Illuminati? You should know that asking that question is not a good idea and it would be even worse for me to go into specifics.

[TRIPxCORE]

For Akai and the other disbelievers, I offer only this:

"We must allow all the federations to continue just as they are, with their systems, their central authorities and their diverse modes of correspondence between high grades of the same rite, organized as they are at the present, but we must create a super rite, which will remain unknown, to which we will call those Masons of high degree whom we shall select. With regard to our brothers in Masonry, these men must be pledges to the strictest secrecy. Through this supreme rite, we will govern all Freemasonry which will become the one international center, the more powerful because its direction will be unknown." ----

Giusseppe Mazzini 33rd degree Mason to Albert Pike on how to head the American chapter, January 22, 1870

"The world is governed by personalities very different to what people

that cannot see further than their eyes, believe"

- Benjamin Disraeli - (Statesman)

"The one who cannot see that on Earth a big endeavor is taking place,

an important plan, on which realization we are allowed to collaborate

as faithful servants, certainly has to be blind"

- Winston Churchill - (33 Degree Freemason)

"... in politics nothing is accidental. If something happens, be assured it was

planned this way"

- Franklin D. Roosevelt - (32 Degree Freemason)

"Give me the power of the money and it will not matter

any more who is commanding"

- Mayer Amschel Rothschild - (Illuminati)

"The seal of the pyramid was created by the Rothschild family and brought

to North America by Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton before 1776.

The Rothschild family is the head of the organization in which I entered in

Colorado. All the Occult Brotherhoods are part of it. It is a

Lucifer Organization to install his reign in the whole world. The eye on the

pyramid is the eye of Lucifer. Supposedly the Rothschild's have personal dealings

with the Devil. I have personally been in his villa and have experienced it. And I know it is true",

- John Todd - ("Masonic Council of Thirteen")

Directed to the 23 Supreme Councils of the Illuminati 4 June 1889:

"To you, Sovereign Instructors of Grade 33, we tell you: you have to repeat

to the brothers of inferior grades that we worship only one God to whom we

pray without superstition. It is we, Initiated in the Supreme Grade, that are to keep the real Masonic religion preserving pure the Lucifer doctrine"

- Albert Pike - (Illuminati

We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effects of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

Illustrious Albert Pike 33°

Letter 15 August 1871

Addressed to Grand Master Guiseppie Mazzini 33°

Archives British Museum

London, England

Fictions are necessary to the people, and the Truth becomes deadly to those who are not strong enough to contemplate it in all its brilliance. In fact, what can there be in common between the vile multitude and sublime wisdom? The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason.

- Illustrious Albert Pike 33°

Sovereign Grand Commander

Mother Supreme Council of the World

THE SUPREME COUNCIL of the ThirtyThird and Last Degree

Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry

Morals and Dogma, page 103 -

"If we like it or not, we will have a One World Government. The question is if it will beachieved through consent or through conquest"

- J. Warburg - (Illuminati and Rothschild banker)

To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas ...

We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests, our newspapers and others with vested interests in controlling us.

The reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of the old people, these are the belated objectives ... for charting the changes of human behavior.

DIRECTOR, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION Brock Chisolm

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or promulgated [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."

Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

Do you need to hear any more????????????

[RDN]

No thanks, but what does it prove? 

[RDN]

...apart from you've been reading this web site: http://illuminati-news.com/quotes.htm

[TRIPxCORE]

...apart from you've been reading this web site: http://illuminati-news.com/quotes.htm

Yes, that is where the quotes came from. You can find information about this stuff all over the internet. Just in case somebody didn't want to look though, I put some up there for them. What does it prove....well, nothing really. Hearing other peoples words is never proof of anything. I was trying to render an explanation to a person with many questions.

[Jai Dee]

Moderators/Admin,

Please close this thread.

It is no longer Thailand related.

It is doing nobody any service reading the latest postings.

People reading this crap would get a totally biased/misdirected view of what Fremasonry is all about... and probably the Illuminati as well.

I cannot speak for them... I am not a member nor do I have any desire to be.

The original poster's questions have been answered.

Any comments in this thread re the Illuminati should be regarded as off-topic.

If there had been any TV members who could have helped the OP they would either have already posted or sent him a PM.

[akai]

hello

I am really form usa do you know usa have many tribe example for asia Latino

french europe Negrito chinese if anyone cant speak eng that not abnormal he maybe speak french chinese in china town or spain

I am thai people was born in thai town my parent is thai people I grow up at usa but I love thailand

masonic dont have any bible Albert Pike have writing about moral and dogma it can make anyone misunderstand about masonic I think so much more masonic dont believe him

please dont believe in many website it have misinformation form someone who anti masonic