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The more self righteous war-wagers brag that they've raped and killed less innocents than the God-damned enemy has. And Jesus wept.

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Koheesti, we are not bashing the US people, (I am not) they just think they are doing the right thing due to government brainwashing..

Just sit down and relax and think for a moment.

Imagine you are walking in a park and sit down somewhere and another person dressed in rags and wearing a long beard comes and sit down next to you ( He looks Middle Eastern) and tells you he is from Afghanistan/Iraq.

1. Would you try to have a conversation with him?

2. Would you ignore him?

3. Would you think of killing him?

4 Would you try to kill him?

I am very interested in your answer(s).

Alex

Koheesti, we are not bashing the US people, (I am not) they just think they are doing the right thing due to government brainwashing..

Just sit down and relax and think for a moment.

Imagine you are walking in a park and sit down somewhere and another person dressed in rags and wearing a long beard comes and sit down next to you ( He looks Middle Eastern) and tells you he is from Afghanistan/Iraq.

1. Would you try to have a conversation with him?

2. Would you ignore him?

3. Would you think of killing him?

4 Would you try to kill him?

I am very interested in your answer(s).

Alex

The question is hilarious.

My boss is Iranian. My colleagues that I work most closely with are one each from Afghanistan, Sudan, Sierra Leone and the USA.

The more self righteous war-wagers brag that they've raped and killed less innocents than the God-damned enemy has. And Jesus wept.

Jesus? I'm not religious. Are you?

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My postings are ridiculous? People here make wild claims and assumptions 700,000 killed in Iraq

You could be right .....But, the site that counts the actual numbers is quite reliable.

Yet here is a Congressman who gets better info than the site or you or I............

He also knows more about Blackwater than us as they actually get to see the bill.

Over A Million Innocent People Perished In A War Based On A Lie! Congressman Dennis Kucinich

The more self righteous war-wagers brag that they've raped and killed less innocents than the God-damned enemy has. And Jesus wept.

Jesus? I'm not religious. Are you?

does one have to be religious to abhor and condemn the killing and maiming of human beings?

i am still waiting for a righteous one to claim that the U.S. war against Mexico -where his great-great-great-uncle died- after which Mexico lost Texas, New Mexico and California enhanced my freedom as a German living in Thailand.

:)

i am still waiting for a righteous one to claim that the U.S. war against Mexico -where his great-great-great-uncle died- after which Mexico lost Texas, New Mexico and California enhanced my freedom as a German living in Thailand.

:)

You're a Kraut?? My great-great-great-uncle was in Austro-Hungary at the time of that war so it's doubtful he fought in the war with Mexico.

But let's examine your ridiculous question...

Taking over the territories you mentioned made America much richer which in the future enabled her to build enough weapons not only for themselves but for the British and Soviets in WWII (Lend Lease Act of 1941) which were used to kill as many of your Nazi relatives as humanly possible. By doing this, the German people and the rest of Europe were set free from the National Socialists and this freedom has allowed you to reap the benefits of doing who-knows-what to the children in the village you live in (it's well known why Germans come to Thailand). If there was any justice in the world, instead of enjoying the weather and children of Thailand you would be slaving back in Germany to send as much money as possible in reparations to the tens of millions of lives your ancestors were directly responsible for destroying. Hmmm, I guess your question wasn't so ridiculous after all.

OK, seriously, all that crap above is made in jest simply as a reply to your silly post, no harm intended. When my grandfather came to America, German was the language spoken in the home. I like Germany & Germans. Although I think with your size and wealth you could do more in the world other than sell cars. :D

My postings are ridiculous? People here make wild claims and assumptions 700,000 killed in Iraq

You could be right .....But, the site that counts the actual numbers is quite reliable.

Yet here is a Congressman who gets better info than the site or you or I............

He also knows more about Blackwater than us as they actually get to see the bill.

Over A Million Innocent People Perished In A War Based On A Lie! Congressman Dennis Kucinich

I bet he doesn't get info about Iraqi deaths from a source better than the site I linked to. Where do you think he gets his? If he's claiming over 1 million deaths, it's a pretty bad source. Congressmen & politicians in general aren't omniscient.

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(it's well known why Germans come to Thailand)

-------rest of post full of thoughtless racists remarks snipped----------------

Man that post says a lot about you.

True colours come shining through eh?

sceadugenga gets pipe and slippers, makes a coffee and sits back to watch the show. :)

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You're a Kraut?? My great-great-great-uncle was in Austro-Hungary at the time of that war so it's doubtful he fought in the war with Mexico.

But let's examine your ridiculous question...

........ By doing this, the German people and the rest of Europe were set free from the National Socialists and this freedom has allowed you to reap the benefits of doing who-knows-what to the children in the village you live in (it's well known why Germans come to Thailand). If there was any justice in the world, instead of enjoying the weather and children of Thailand you would be slaving back in Germany to send as much money as possible in reparations to the tens of millions of lives your ancestors were directly responsible for destroying. .......

OK, seriously, all that crap above is made in jest simply as a reply to your silly post, no harm intended........

If you can't win a debate without resorting to (irrelevant) racist accusations of paedophilia....go away.

You can't just mitigate it by saying it's in jest.

It says alot for the proponants of your side of the argument.

I for one, have no desire to engage with you any more (not that you actually could engage with logic or reason).

Bugger off.

This guy is either making this online character up (as I do not believe there are people living in this world with such a mindset) or he's for real and that would be really a good reason for sending him to one of those facilities in the US they used in the past (and maybe still use) to reset someones brain.

Yes my question to you was hilarious but I only tried to come over more hilarious then you Koheesti..... :D

Anyway, now with B-liar admitting (sort of) he would just make up any reason to go to war and kill innocent people and dump their nuclear waste

on foreign soil which kills even more innocent in the long term (both sides) I just wonder, why nobody is bringing those war criminals to justice.

But as I mentioned in another thread, these kind of people are so out of touch with the real world and they can be classified as psychopaths.

For example Madelin Albright saying all those people that died was worth it, wife of Bush Senior saying why should she waste her beautiful mind thinking of all the (innocent) people that died during those illegal wars.

I say, nail those bastards against a wall with rusty nails and see and hear them slowly die from gangrene (broad casted live through some Internet channel), where people can be inter active by asking questions to them like: Do you still think it was worth it, if so could you explain why, and do you think/hope in the future you will be recognized as a martyr/hero/freedom fighter, bringer of democracy whatever that means nowadays.

:)

The more self righteous war-wagers brag that they've raped and killed less innocents than the God-damned enemy has. And Jesus wept.

Jesus? I'm not religious. Are you?

Welcome to Thai Visa. :D I'm a rabid anti-war Texas Anabaptist. :) As a Christian, I'm required to love my enemies. :D
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You're a Kraut?? My great-great-great-uncle was in Austro-Hungary at the time of that war so it's doubtful he fought in the war with Mexico.

But let's examine your ridiculous question...

........ By doing this, the German people and the rest of Europe were set free from the National Socialists and this freedom has allowed you to reap the benefits of doing who-knows-what to the children in the village you live in (it's well known why Germans come to Thailand). If there was any justice in the world, instead of enjoying the weather and children of Thailand you would be slaving back in Germany to send as much money as possible in reparations to the tens of millions of lives your ancestors were directly responsible for destroying. .......

OK, seriously, all that crap above is made in jest simply as a reply to your silly post, no harm intended........

If you can't win a debate without resorting to (irrelevant) racist accusations of paedophilia....go away.

You can't just mitigate it by saying it's in jest.

It says alot for the proponants of your side of the argument.

I for one, have no desire to engage with you any more (not that you actually could engage with logic or reason).

Bugger off.

All of a sudden you're sensitive? I must have hit a nerve with the bit about children. Afraid you'll get caught? It's OK when you and your friends here spew hatred in all seriousness (calling Americans in Afghanistan Nanking-style rapists is at least as bad as saying Germans in Thailand come for the kids). But when someone jokes about it you get your panties in a bunch?

You're a funny guy, Harcourt. You post drivel, I take you to school each time. And the best you can come up with is "You are mean, I don't want to play anymore". Fine, you can put me on your ignore list then but I'll still take apart your posts. Well, as long as there isn't such a great volume of crap in just one post that I don't have time.

For example Madelin Albright saying all those people that died was worth it, wife of Bush Senior saying why should she waste her beautiful mind thinking of all the (innocent) people that died during those illegal wars.

I think what you are talking about is when Albright was Bill Clinton's Sec of State she was asked about whether or not the death of tens of thousands of Iraqi children as a result of the sanctions was worth it - and she said yes, it was. That was a shock. She went on to explain that was because Saddam had the money to buy medicine but used it to build palaces instead. But still, she shouldn't have answered with such a blunt sounding sound bite. Years later I even lost a bet on that she never said it because I thought no way she would have.

Do you have a link to the Barbara Bush quote?

i am still waiting for a righteous one to claim that the U.S. war against Mexico -where his great-great-great-uncle died- after which Mexico lost Texas, New Mexico and California enhanced my freedom as a German living in Thailand.

:)

You're a Kraut?? My great-great-great-uncle was in Austro-Hungary at the time of that war so it's doubtful he fought in the war with Mexico.

But let's examine your ridiculous question...

Taking over the territories you mentioned made America much richer which in the future enabled her to build enough weapons not only for themselves but for the British and Soviets in WWII (Lend Lease Act of 1941) which were used to kill as many of your Nazi relatives as humanly possible. By doing this, the German people and the rest of Europe were set free from the National Socialists and this freedom has allowed you to reap the benefits of doing who-knows-what to the children in the village you live in (it's well known why Germans come to Thailand). If there was any justice in the world, instead of enjoying the weather and children of Thailand you would be slaving back in Germany to send as much money as possible in reparations to the tens of millions of lives your ancestors were directly responsible for destroying. Hmmm, I guess your question wasn't so ridiculous after all.

OK, seriously, all that crap above is made in jest simply as a reply to your silly post, no harm intended. When my grandfather came to America, German was the language spoken in the home. I like Germany & Germans. Although I think with your size and wealth you could do more in the world other than sell cars. :D

That is an absolutely disgraceful post.

That is an absolutely disgraceful post.

i find it quite entertaining. especially the "car" part as eight years have passed since i sold two of my cars :)

koheesti's posts have become so childish and immature I can understand his concerns that there may be a kiddyfiddler lurking somewhere.

An attack on his countries economic and military policies has caused him to turn to personal abuse something which contributes nothing at all to his arguments.

There is a golden rule in Thailand expat forums. Paedophilia is not a term of abuse, it's something that is never taken that lightly. Now he claims he never started the name calling, he's responding to insults to his country.

I never say anything online to anybody I wouldn't say to their face, I'm sorry that koheesti doesn't have the same attitude to personal insults, and I too, am taking my toys and going home.

koheesti's posts have become so childish and immature I can understand his concerns that there may be a kiddyfiddler lurking somewhere.

An attack on his countries economic and military policies has caused him to turn to personal abuse something which contributes nothing at all to his arguments.

There is a golden rule in Thailand expat forums. Paedophilia is not a term of abuse, it's something that is never taken that lightly. Now he claims he never started the name calling, he's responding to insults to his country.

I never say anything online to anybody I wouldn't say to their face, I'm sorry that koheesti doesn't have the same attitude to personal insults, and I too, am taking my toys and going home.

So where is this Golden Rule? I've been here for 3 years and have never heard of it. Maybe it comes up more often in the circles you guys hang around in? :)

So it's OK for you guys to go around insulting others but when someone else does it in jest, the world comes to an end. Uh-huh. Insulting ALL American soldiers fighting, dying and sacrificing in Afghanistan in a war supported by just about every country on the planet as Nanking-style rapists (read up on Nanking) is an "attack on his countries economic and military policies" but an attack (admittedly at the time in jest) about ALL German tourists living the good life, relaxing in the sun down in Thailand as pedophiles is "personal abuse" and "disgraceful"? Yeah, right. OF COURSE not every German who comes to Thailand is chasing kids. They are here for a wide range of reasons like anyone else. Americans have been busted in Thailand for messing with kids. That doesn't make all of them child molesters. Someone comes in a breaks up your little anti-America, anti-Israel circle jerk with facts and logic. You lose at just about every turn and the only way out is to fake being insulted and going home. Fine. You & your buddies have been wrong about just about everything else, this just adds one more thing to the long list.

btw - that connection made between the war with Mexico and a German having the freedom to live in Thailand was pretty solid. And for the record, I had family fighting on both sides of that war. I for one here, am glad the those fighting on the American & Allied side won.

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Someone comes in a breaks up your little anti-America, anti-Israel circle jerk with facts and logic. You lose at just about every turn and the only way out is to fake being insulted and going home. Fine. You & your buddies have been wrong about just about everything else, this just adds one more thing to the long list.

Dude you need to step away from the yabaa pipe.

Your delusional

None have ever said Anti American.....Anti wrongful use of power by the powers that be in the name of the people...hel_l yes.

No matter what country is at the wheel.

The only loser here is unmasked by their inability to think outside the box of rhetoric spoon fed to their weak mind.

Sheeple will be sheeple & none can help a mind that is closed to begin with.

As for losing at every turn ....none ......especially you has put forth a valid reason for the policing actions or the occupation of countries discussed here....namely the one named in the topic of this thread.

To resort to joking about entire races is weak at best.

As for winning any previous wars....This one will end the same as Vietnam

Then again you probably think that was a win?

I will make it easy for you to understand...........This is your mind/argument in a nutshell

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Anyway, back to F ganistaan.

http://www.counterpunch.org/hallinan12112009.html

The recently announced surge in troops will only mean that more people are going to die.......protecting the national interest.

Or protecting the big conglomerates?

Was it not that former payed by the CIA guy Bin Laden they were after, is he still alive?

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_5368.shtml

Oh and by the way the Barbara Bush quote was taken a bit out of context as she meant she did not look at the news about the war as at that time there was a lot of speculation of what might happen, how many deaths etc..so my apologies for that.

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This is how the new game is played

US to send up to 56,000 "contracts" to Afghanistan

CRS, which provides background information to members of Congress on a bipartisan basis, said it expects an additional 26,000 to 56,000 contractors to be sent to Afghanistan. That would bring the number of contractors in the country to anywhere from 130,000 to 160,000.

Full article at link above

what ever happened to the large Budha that the taliban wanted to destroy, whic to the best of my memory is what got them on the front page to start with.

They destroyed it. Blew it right up.

Not a very pleasant group of people.

I posted on this some where else in OTB, thought it was here, must have been the Muslim one.

Buddhas of Bamyan

Dynamiting and destruction, March 2001

Destruction of the site by Taliban

The statues were destroyed by dynamite over several weeks, starting in early March, carried out in different stages. Initially, the statues were fired at for several days using anti-aircraft guns and artillery. This damaged them, but did not obliterate them. Later, the Taliban placed anti-tank mines at the bottom of the niches, so that when fragments of rock broke off from artillery fire, the statues would receive additional destruction from particles that set off the mines. In the end, the Taliban lowered men down the cliff face and placed explosives into holes in the Buddhas.

On 6 March 2001 The Times quoted Mullah Mohammed Omar as stating, "Muslims should be proud of smashing idols. It has given praise to God that we have destroyed them." During a 13 March interview for Japan's Mainichi Shimbun, Afghan Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmad Mutawakel stated that the destruction was anything but a retaliation against the international community for economic sanctions: "We are destroying the Buddha statues in accordance with Islamic law and it is purely a religious issue".

On 18 March, The New York Times reported that a Taliban envoy said the Islamic government made its decision in a rage after a foreign delegation offered money to preserve the ancient works. The report also added, however, that other reports "have said the religious leaders were debating the move for months, and ultimately decided that the statues were idolatrous and should be obliterated."

Then Taliban ambassador-at-large, Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, said that the destruction of the statues was carried out by the Head Council of Scholars after a single Swedish monuments expert proposed to restore the statues' heads. Hashimi is reported as saying: "When the Afghani head council asked them to provide the money to feed the children instead of fixing the statues, they refused and said, 'No, the money is just for the statues, not for the children'. Herein, they made the decision to destroy the statues". However, he did not comment on the fact that a foreign museum offered to "buy the Buddhist statues, the money from which could have been used to feed children."

Criminals.

this is just my observation but it does seem as though there are large numbers of anti war groups that will get up in arms aver such things as statues but when it comes to places like africa and burma they dont want to get envolved. where is the line drawn for the Doves i mean when is it ok to fight for what you believe to be right?

I only want to see the deaths of vandals and people who won't use capitals.

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