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Do you feel an increasing anti-farang sentiment?

Do you feel an increasing anti-farang sentiment? 105 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you feel an increasing anti-farang sentiment?

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For those who have been here a while, do you feel an increasing anti-farang sentiment?

If so, why do you think that is?

I personally think, yes, and I think it is largely to do with the economic frustrations of Thais as well as viral misbehaving farang posts online.

Thais don't seem as happy as they used to be. It isn't really The Land of Smiles anymore and has fallen to 50th place (roughly) on the happiness index, and particulary since 2015 Thais have reported online being less happy.

They are also in high personal debt compared to before and I think struggling more than any time since their financial crisis in the late 90s. And the economic future is looking bleak too.

This, coupled in with the culture of posting everything online (many videos showcasing bad farangs), has led to a lot of anti-farang sentiment.

Just my opinion. What do you think?

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  • I would say that would depend where you live, if its on the well trodden tourust path, then probably based on what you see in the news everyday and the behaviour of many visitors. If you live away fr

  • Personally, no. However, reading many of the articles posted on AN you might form that opinion. That said, most of the issues that put foreigners in the media headlines are to do with their bad or ill

  • Yes, definitely......I'm the only farang in our household of two.......and there is an undeniable sense of anti-farang in the air.

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Personally, no. However, reading many of the articles posted on AN you might form that opinion. That said, most of the issues that put foreigners in the media headlines are to do with their bad or illegal behaviour, not simply because they're foreigners.

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I would say that would depend where you live, if its on the well trodden tourust path, then probably based on what you see in the news everyday and the behaviour of many visitors.

If you live away from thise areas then I would suggest its highly unlikely, I certainly dont see any of that and its pretty much the same as its always been.

 

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I supposse it could be the younger generation simply having a different attitude to foreigners or different nature in general.

The older generation may just be "better natured" than their offspring.

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If you are shoving a phone in a persons face expecting them to understand the translation app as opposed to speaking some basic Thai, sure, going to have some anti-farang.

But if you have some basic language skill, and can laugh and be in good spirit, no.

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8 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

I 1ould say that would depend where you live, if its on the well trodden tourust path, then probably based on what you see in the news everyday and the behaviour of many visitors.

If you live away from thise areas then I would suggest its highly unlikely, I certainly dont see any of that and its pretty much the same as its always been.

Yeah, the "farang novelty" wears off in the well-trodden areas over time too.

The tourism industry was also decimated by covid and now losing to neighbours, so those affected may feel friction with farang, and ironically biting the hand that feeds them.

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Not sure should be an option.

I don't get the respect I got just for being a Farang that I did 20 years ago. Not sure if there is more anti foreigner sentiment but probably so with social media. People online are much nastier than they are in real life.

When I first got here Thais lived a much simpler life and were curious about us. Now they are so attached to their phones and their life's' are much more complicated. They don't even notice me most of the time when walking through a market. I think I liked the old Thailand more but I'm happier than ever and that is important to me.

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7 minutes ago, Priorexpat said:

If you are shoving a phone in a persons face expecting them to understand the translation app as opposed to speaking some basic Thai, sure, going to have some anti-farang.

But if you have some basic language skill, and can laugh and be in good spirit, no.

I think both sides are feeling the fatigue: farang fatigue and Thai fatigue.

It can be hard dealing with each other in tourist scene

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22 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

I 1ould say that would depend where you live, if its on the well trodden tourust path, then probably based on what you see in the news everyday and the behaviour of many visitors.

If you live away from thise areas then I would suggest its highly unlikely, I certainly dont see any of that and its pretty much the same as its always been.

I have a house in a large estate on the outskirts of Bangkok. I've been there for 20 years and have always been treated with respect. The houses in my estate are 2.5 million baht plus to buy so that keeps the poorer people from living here. Many of the residents here are Thai Chinese and treat foreigners much better than the normal Thai people. Many have got to know me because I go for a long walk every morning. Quite a few even call me by my first name.

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I feel no resentment from Thais.

But then I’m respectful, courteous, spend money, tip well and don’t start fights.

We are guests. Act accordingly.and you’ll have no problems.

Biggest A holes are farangs.

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46 minutes ago, NewGuy87 said:

For those who have been here a while, do you feel an increasing anti-farang sentiment?

You only have your fellow foreigners to blame.

When I arrived decades ago, we were treated like Kings.

The Thai's have had enough of all the disrespectful, nasty foreigners coming these days.

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No, I don't think they were ever fans of foreigners, only the money

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29 minutes ago, NewGuy87 said:

Yeah, the "farang novelty" wears off in the well-trodden areas over time too.

The tourism industry was also decimated by covid and now losing to neighbours, so those affected may feel friction with farang, and ironically biting the hand that feeds them.

Do you ever venture out of the "tourist ghettos"? I am like Charlie and Rams, lived in the same nice muban in the northern part of Bangkok now for 30+ years. The muban is all single house between 100-200 sq. wah so they are much bigger and constructed better than the housing now. I have know many of the neighbors since we moved in. Most of the kids are now grown and gone on in life so its quiet. At least 25 of us walk or jog each morning and evening, often having a coffee together in the mornings. I have not noticed any changes at all. Good area to live, very nice neighbors and a nice group of friends to chat with daily.

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Yes, definitely......I'm the only farang in our household of two.......and there is an undeniable sense of anti-farang in the air.

58 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Not sure should be an option.

I don't get the respect I got just for being a Farang that I did 20 years ago. Not sure if there is more anti foreigner sentiment but probably so with social media. People online are much nastier than they are in real life.

When I first got here Thais lived a much simpler life and were curious about us. Now they are so attached to their phones and their life's' are much more complicated. They don't even notice me most of the time when walking through a market. I think I liked the old Thailand more but I'm happier than ever and that is important to me.

You are also much older. Older people here get respected when needed but are, for the most part, ignored.

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33 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

When I arrived decades ago, we were treated like Kings.

Yes, I recall this too.

33 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The Thai's have had enough of all the disrespectful, nasty foreigners coming these days.

Are we really behaving that much worse? Or is the internet amplifying it?

I know there have been a lot of Indians coming in recent years which Thais dont like, but is the new generation of farang (western foreigner) really worse? And are they anti-East Asian too?

Or do they have something that smells bad in their own pocket and trying to blame us?

I mean the terrible things going on among Thais is way worse than what farang are getting up to

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37 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

No, I don't think they were ever fans of foreigners, only the money

Ultimately, I think this is true.

56 minutes ago, marin said:

Do you ever venture out of the "tourist ghettos"? I am like Charlie and Rams, lived in the same nice muban in the northern part of Bangkok now for 30+ years. The muban is all single house between 100-200 sq. wah so they are much bigger and constructed better than the housing now. I have know many of the neighbors since we moved in. Most of the kids are now grown and gone on in life so its quiet. At least 25 of us walk or jog each morning and evening, often having a coffee together in the mornings. I have not noticed any changes at all. Good area to live, very nice neighbors and a nice group of friends to chat with daily.

So your long time Thai neighbors and friends, all comfortably ensconced in your Superior Homes, treat you well? Excellent 👍

This question reminds me of an interview I saw with a pain expert doctor from Stanford who said soon pain level would be measurable like body temperature or pulse with a specific number for any person's pain.

Seems like pain is a subjective experience that can't ever be quantified like that.

So I took the long way around to say that "feeling the level of anti-faring sentiment" is extraordinarily subjective.

Some days I am paranoid and I think the gecko in my apartment hates me, other days I feel like all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.

Brain chemistry determines feelings I am told, although I gotta wonder if feelings determine brain chemistry as well.

When I first came to Thailand in the year 2000 it did seem like farangs were still considered a bit of a novelty and not taken for granted as ATMs as they are somewhat today.

So I think there has been some change but more towards neutrality and taking farangs for granted as no big deal, not really any kind of hostility that I can see.

11 minutes ago, TimBKK said:

So your long time Thai neighbors and friends, all comfortably ensconced in your Superior Homes, treat you well? Excellent

Do I detect envy? More luck as we could buy 30 years ago, when the land plots were bigger and the houses better built.

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12 minutes ago, TimBKK said:

So your long time Thai neighbors and friends, all comfortably ensconced in your Superior Homes, treat you well? Excellent 👍

I don't think anyone is bragging when they say they live in an affluent neighborhood.

I am a renter on little circular cul-de-sac (not exactly a dead end but definitely no shortcut to anywhere). I live in the only apartment building on the street of houses which I would describe as close to being mansions. Every house has a couple high-end sedans and an automatic gate.

These folks are well-to-do. Even I pay a rent that others have told me is too high, but I am happy to pay for the benefit of not having to put up with low-rent type neighbors.

Especially nice that there are few farangs here and the ones that do live here are not .... well you know what I mean.

The cul-de-sac is a favored exercise route for walkers and runners, basically all Thai folks and they are very friendly and encouraging although I am basically the only farang walking there.

I don't think anyone is bragging when they say they live in an affluent neighborhood.

It just seems to be true that in the more affluent neighborhoods the neighbors are friendlier.

NO.

It is NOT increasing.

I have always felt this way.

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Do you feel an increasing anti-farang sentiment?

Yes, in big tourist areas.

No, in the rest of Thailand.

Since I’ve lived here, that feeling is mutual.

Only by other Farangs.

I don't care where you are from or what your religious wacko beliefs are 😄

Try to smile a little at other Farangs not look so sour pickle face

You're not in your home <deleted>hole county anymore

Or in your ethnic religious bubble enclaves like Lakewood NJ where I'm guessing the sour face Hasidic Jewish man I saw today on the street in Thailand was probably from

I really don't care they don't look happy, losers in the long run, up to them.

This is the Land of Smiles, not pickles 🥒

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I disagree with virtually everything that you said. I find most Thais to be very pleasant, very light-hearted, and fun-loving people. Unlike the poor folks in the West they're fairly content despite some economic difficulties, and those are minor compared to the ridiculous cost of living people are dealing with in the US and Europe these days.

Very few Thai people that I run into are anti foreigner, but there have been some bad apples in Thailand lately and the recent visa policy has invited a lot of garbage tourists.

I deal with Thais daily through work and I don't see it pointed at nationality. What I do see is people being much more careful with money than a year ago, and that shows up as a shorter fuse with everyone, Thai or foreign. The clips that go viral are almost always about a specific behaviour - noise, parking, riding on the footpath - and they would go viral with a Thai in the frame too. Whether it is actually growing or just filmed more often, I can't tell.

1 hour ago, marin said:

Do I detect envy? More luck as we could buy 30 years ago, when the land plots were bigger and the houses better built.

Naw, just a bit of sarcasm is all. I admire your station in life.

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I live 12km from the centre of CM, a little rural, white foreigners are rare.

All the coffee shops and businesses I frequent appear happy to have my custom. They all wave, smile and shout hello if we pass in the street.

My wife's female friends all seem happy enough to eat my food, and take a nap on my living room floor.

The neighbours often stop to open my driveway gate for me as I drive up.

I see no indication anyone objects to me living here.

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To put it bluntly - the socio-economic level of the average tourist has declined massively in the past few years. Of course some Thais are going to notice and get annoyed by it. Hopefully Thailand gets back to quality over quantity in the future.

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