Hi ladies,

In my job, i travel a lot and have met a lots of ladies from different countries, mostly from Europe, North America and latinas.

I have always been able to kind of get an understanding of how they really think of most foreign guys depending where they came from etc...

But when it comes to thai ladies, i am not sure! They seem to worship white skin or whatever it symbolise (wealth, living in farang country, whatever...).

They don't like blacks, middle easterns (read arabs and others from that region), india & pakistani's and people with darker skin then themselves. That much i learned from thai ladies.

My question is, if i ever would meet a thai lady, and i don't mean no "bar ladies", what are the chances she is really interested of ME and not where i come from, live or my economical potenciallies?

I would like to know what to look for trying to find a Thai lady who is really interested in me as a person? Only and only thai ladies!!!

Kind regards

Thai-Trader

Only and only thai ladies!!!

Kind regards

Thai-Trader

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I think there have been very few Thai ladies who post here. You may want to keep this in mind.

Question for Mrs Stickman?

What do you Farang ladies think about thai ladies in this matter, then? Any inside information?

Kind regards

Thai-trader

What do you Farang ladies think about thai ladies in this matter, then? Any inside information? 

Kind regards

Thai-trader

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Well, I only have my opinion so I'll share.

The question was "I have always been able to kind of get an understanding of how they really think of most foreign guys depending where they came from etc... But when it comes to thai ladies, i am not sure! They seem to worship white skin or whatever it symbolise (wealth, living in farang country, whatever...). My question is, if i ever would meet a thai lady, and i don't mean no "bar ladies", what are the chances she is really interested of ME and not where i come from, live or my economical potenciallies?

Yes, I do believe they worship white skin because of the money, but not so sure about living in farang country as so many are close to their families (or the ones I've known seem to be).

Over the years I've had a number of male friends married to Thai ladies (but in different countries, not Thailand). When the guys are out of the room the Thai ladies are the ones dominating the conversation with how fat/lazy/stupid/boring/bad in bed etc their farang men are. Yet when another women goes for their men they come out fighting to keep them tooth and nail.

Are they any different than other nationalities where the money/power is so skewed? I have no real opinion on that one because with the other farang/asian relationships I've been around there has been a more even match when it comes to education and family background (class). Only here do they tempt fate and ignore common sense.

Does it bother me that their first aim is to catch an ATM? Not in the least. If I were as poor as some of these ladies are, I'm sure I'd be right out there ahead of the bunch giving it my best shot.

They treat male and female with the same flirtatious mannerisms and grace, and I quite enjoy the smiles in my direction. In no way do I prefer women, so don't even go there.

And to answer the last question "I would like to know what to look for trying to find a Thai lady who is really interested in me as a person?"

Facts of life - at the start of every relationship there is agenda. Whether it's money, or looks, or family pressure, or a spark, or just plain being lonely. All of this just gets the ball rolling and it's my opinion you should thank your lucky stars that you can jumpstart a relationship just by being farang ... oh, yes, as well as being a walking ATM.

It is what it is. There are some lovely ladies out here, I wish you well in your search. And I hope she (if you do manage to hook up), gets the man she is hoping for as there is always two sides in a relationship.

desi

Edited April 6, 200521 yr by desi

Hi ladies,

In my job, i travel a lot and have met a lots of ladies from different countries, mostly from Europe, North America and latinas.

I have always been able to kind of get an understanding of how they really think of most foreign guys depending where they came from etc...

But when it comes to thai ladies, i am not sure! They seem to worship white skin or whatever it symbolise (wealth, living in farang country, whatever...).

They don't like blacks, middle easterns (read arabs and others from that region), india & pakistani's and people with darker skin then themselves. That much i learned from thai ladies.

My question is, if i ever would meet a thai lady, and i don't mean no "bar ladies", what are the chances she is really interested of ME and not where i come from, live or my economical potenciallies?

I would like to know what to look for trying to find a Thai lady who is really interested in me as a person? Only and only thai ladies!!!

Kind regards

Thai-Trader

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it all depends on what thai ladies you are reffering too, depending on their background, proffession, upbringing, it will all differ.

you should go into what thai ladies you are referring to;

students?

business-women?

"entertainmant" industry?

they will all differ......

The way it is there's alot of exoticization in farang-man-thai-woman relationship. I've heard from an International school teacher how Thai ladies dump him when he wants to visit the parents or relatives.

Yeah, farangs tend to get the best treatment on initail encounters, but I think mistrusts of farang men are burgeoning in LOS. Darker skin folks are getting more respect now... I've heard of a Thai lady (in the govt's circle) marrying a Ghanna king... FYI, the theme of white/light skinned people (regardless of nationality and ethnic background)being jai-dum or black-hearted is prevalent and recurring in Thai country music for at least 3 decades now. The recent twin-lotus herbal tootpaste ad is also based on a twist of this theme.

In any case, farangs have an edge in making the first impressions, so that's a great opportunity to use, rather then abuse. Unfortunately, farang men who aren't really good looking are the ones most prone to cosmetic good initial treatments, while the good looking ones get real admirations. It should be noted though that these are infatuations, but can easily progress into something more meaningful. Yeah, the predominanting sense of aesthetics here is thelighter the skin the better, but applies less to men than to women. Some women, particularly the more formally educated ones prefer tawny men.

Worship white skin? I blame most of it on television. It's been quite like a rule that actors/actresses/models have to be white. Unbelievably white. White means cleanness. At one stage, new trend has arrived that TV stars are to be half Thai half caucasian. So coloured people or middle easterns have never been as popular.

Anyway, it all comes down to an individual. There are good and bad people everywhere. Don't try too hard. It tends to happen when we least expect it.

Welcome back Elsie, nice to see you back in the Ladies section

As for what Thai ladies see in men, well I would guess it is up the the lady. Not all are after the same things you see.

My question is, if i ever would meet a thai lady, and i don't mean no "bar ladies", what are the chances she is really interested of ME and not where i come from, live or my economical potenciallies?

Depends whether she's Thai/Chinese or 100% Thai etc.

If she comes from a ethnic Chinese family she is interested primarily in your status. Job, number of shares and of what quality in your portfolio.

Too many variables here to answer your question directly.

Yeah, farangs tend to get the best treatment on initail encounters, but I think mistrusts of farang men are burgeoning in LOS.

I would say mistrust is turning into outright hostility in some cases. There are quite a few areas in Chiang Mai even where farang are not really welcome. It's still the case that a good Thai girl will be looked down on if she's seen with a farang. The fact is most girls who hang out at farang venues (bars, discos, etc..) are usually hookers. The girls that you see mostly with farang are hookers or Bargirl "girlfriends." There are girls out there with normal relationships with farang but it's difficult for them not to be placed into that "paid relationship" category. The acceptance of these relations aren't that great in Thai society.

  In any case, farangs have an edge in making the first impressions, so that's a great opportunity to use, rather then abuse. Unfortunately, farang men who aren't really good looking are the ones most prone to cosmetic good initial treatments, while the good looking ones get real admirations.  It should be noted though that these are infatuations, but can easily progress into something more meaningful.

These "infatuations" are often overstated by western males to boost egos. You have to really sit down and talk with some thais to get a good idea on what they think of foreigners. Some are brutally honest once you get to know them. If it weren't for the economic incentives then most farangs would have been sent packing a long time ago.

My question is, if i ever would meet a thai lady, and i don't mean no "bar ladies", what are the chances she is really interested of ME and not where i come from, live or my economical potenciallies?

I would like to know what to look for trying to find a Thai lady who is really interested in me as a person? Only and only thai ladies!!!

Kind regards

Thai-Trader

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Hi there...

I am a Thai lady ... so I think I am qualified to reply this Post ...

Anyway ..to answer your question.. just like everyone says that it depends on

her background, education and blah..blah ... blah...

I myself have a farang b/f and I am not interested in any of his posession or where they are from ...or how much money they make .. or even their skin colour. But what matter to me is how he treats me and how well we go together ... our time spending together ... stuff like that. I believe that we are just like other women in the world who needs respect and care.

We do care a bit about your guys's job because it will affect our relationship.. of course but not the wages that you guys earn.

Regarding the white skin worship.... .. umm... I do not think that it is a sign of living in farang country but most Thai girls here want to be white because Thai Society values the prioritiy of the social classes. In the old days only the people who served the royal family were brought up decently and they were not exposed to the ray. The decent girls were supposed to be the ones who are at home learning how to prepare food and taking care of the household. They do not have to go out to a market because they have servants.

Unlike those people in poor families who has to go out to the field and work and they definitely get tan skin.

SEE ! this is where the idea of skin colour comes from.

It is obvious to see that most bargirls have tan skin since they are from rural areas and they are not rich. So, that is why most Thai girls want to be so white.

IN conclusion ... lol ... you basically have to be yourself and I think if a decent Thai is interested in you for the real you then she will show it and you will know it without a doubt about the skin colour or whatsoever...

AMEN!

I've been thinking about how to answer this Q and related issues that popped up here, and wildcard pretty much said it all.

Edited April 12, 200521 yr by siamesekitty

except for the farang b/f part

It should be reiterated that classism is more of a problem here--and in most countries I know--than racism, but I really don't think that the white skin worshipping is rooted in class alone, though it is definitely a factor. I've lived in a White body and a darker body.

I've lived in a White body and a darker body.

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What?!?

Rest assured that I am not a product of cloning, nor a shape-shifting reptilian ghost . Below is my previous post on a different thread--it should help clarify my position.

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After about 11 or 12, my skin became dark... Can't quite figure out whether it was the chlorine or the sun... was out in the pools and soccer fields alot... They didn't have whitenning stuff then except maybe those kuan-im...While the parents of my Chinese friends were doing all sorts of things to make sure their daughters' skin stay light, my parents didn't bother. Anyway, at around 12 and 13, I was using a lot of talc... Glad I got over that....

My mom was considered really beautiful here in her younger days even though she's been dark all along...Those days, Mon-rudee Yamapai was considered the hottest star, and she's dark.. Thais were watching Indian movies then too and Hema Malinee was well-liked then, and her skin isn't all that light... I think people aren't as nice as they use to be in general la....can't really blame anyone for that. I hope it doesn't bother your wife too much being mistaken for a baby-sitter.

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They adore "Kaek kow"--That's the category I happen to fall into the first ten years of my life.

What happened when you were 10?

Did you start sun-bathing?

Using skin-whitener?

My wife is often mistaken for my daughter's baby sitter!

A big difference in skin colour.

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I've lived in a White body and a darker body.

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I am recycling another post for clarification...just in case...

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Mmany] Thais hate dark skin, regardless of ethnicity.

They adore "Kaek kow"--That's the category I happen to fall into the first ten years of my life.

I met a girl in Oregon three years ago. Her mom is Caucasian farang, her dad Thai. She has a medium beige skin tone and a larger frame.

She told me that as a kid people would tell her that she coould not possibly be her mom's daughter and would call her "I-kaek" and "I-kaek chuk" (her mom used to roll her hair up in a bun). That's a very sad story....Of course I have thai friends who are not racist, and not painstakinly PC either.

Yeah Racism exists everywhere, and yeah farangs don't usually the right-in-the-face kind here, but i know of someone who gets it growing up in Hawaii.

Peace

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I've lived in a White body and a darker body.

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Hi ladies,

In my job, i travel a lot and have met a lots of ladies from different countries, mostly from Europe, North America and latinas.

I have always been able to kind of get an understanding of how they really think of most foreign guys depending where they came from etc...

But when it comes to thai ladies, i am not sure! They seem to worship white skin or whatever it symbolise (wealth, living in farang country, whatever...).

They don't like blacks, middle easterns (read arabs and others from that region), india & pakistani's and people with darker skin then themselves. That much i learned from thai ladies.

My question is, if i ever would meet a thai lady, and i don't mean no "bar ladies", what are the chances she is really interested of ME and not where i come from, live or my economical potenciallies?

I would like to know what to look for trying to find a Thai lady who is really interested in me as a person? Only and only thai ladies!!!

Kind regards

Thai-Trader

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Thai-Trader--So that's what you're calling yourselves these days, eh? Thai ladies are just telling you what you so desperately need to hear: You the White male are favored and have the right stuff, while they despise all the other pigmented, Hamitic, Semitic, non-Aryan types. Even now in thousands of trailer parks thousands of White women are telling your brothers the same thing just for butter-&-egg-money. Back in the day African women would use the same appeal to your forefathers just to keep some poor Black man from getting skinned alive. That's when you were called Slave-Trader. Worship you eh? Look around you on your travels--ever seen a Euro Buddha? You may think you're a trader, but you may be getting sold.

hahaha

You know, i mean everyone of you who have replied to my Q, i thank you, really!

I think i have to clear some things here since this topic is getting intresting!

Hope you understand my poor english

First of all, i am NOT WHITE!

Actually, i am middle eastern but don't really look "arab", neither are arab for that matter. In some circles i am considered "Arian" some not as somebody was calling me "slave-trader". I live in a "Farang" country and have been to Thailand over 30 times since last year.

I am 34 year's old, have had many girlfriends from 30-40 different countries, both short timers and long timers

Thai ladies tend to be more open toward forigners in my opinion comared to other east asian ladies, being Japanese the most difficault to approache if you understand what i mean.

I am really intrested in the Thai-openness and their way of being, treat a man and believe me they have a special way of "touching" men, that i can tell you!

Since i am among the worst explainer's on this planet as you allready noticed

i should confess that i have only had bar ladies in Thailand and that's becouse

1- Not have had time enough to search a non bar lady

2- Have choosen the easy way

3- what else could i come up with!!!!!

I have realized that i have to aim the office-bank-airpot kind of ladies since those with a higher education are most likely "never-have-been-bar-lady"!

Many of you might think i am a macho pig and that's fine with me. I just wont have a bar lady as the mother of my children and i don't care what you think about that. I have fun with bar ladies and 99% of them are nice and lovelies, at least those i been with, but i could never marry or get serious with one knowing what they have been doing no matter what resons they have had, even though i have felt that for at least one of them with whom i have contact almost daily, sms, calls, etc

I stand for it and i know deep inside many guy think like me, having fun but not getting married even if it happens, very often. But most of these guy's are also older men, looser's in their native countries, often with non higher education, you know the type!

Unfourtunantly the sex industry in Thailand have made all Thai ladies famous as bar ladies! As my friend once said, who is married to a beautiful thai lady who is marketing manager, no matter if you marry the pearl of Thailand people will allways assosiate her with a hooker!

To make it short, i now know whom to look for but not yet where...

Waiting for your answer's

Sawasdee krap

This is completely off topic for the women's forum.

Guys, this is a forum predominatly for women to discuss their issues, not for guys to spew about their problems with women, ask silly baiting questions that make men look like idiots, or to talk about bar ladies. Please post in an appropriate forum as I am getting tired of moving them all the time, and shutting other ones like this down.

cv

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It should be reiterated that classism is more of a problem here--and in most countries I know--than racism, but I really don't think that the white skin worshipping is rooted in class alone, though it is definitely a factor.  I've lived in a White body and a darker body.

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However did you do that ?