I would stop @ 12% - handing me plates of food is not something I called skilled labor anywhere in the world.

Sign is obviously from USA

Nothing irritates a Cheap Charlie more than tipping.

20 baht.

This isn't the US.

It is the responsibility of the establishment to pay its staff. That's part of the cost of running a business, and it should be included in the price of the meal. What's next: The restaurant adding rent and electricity to the bill? Anyway, if it's mandatory, it's not a tip. Restaurants just want to be able to show lower prices on their menus, but if the price excludes staff compensation, then they are being deceitful. I would never eat at a restaurant that tries to guilt customers into paying its staff's salaries on top of the price of the meal.

If you're talking about restaurants it depends on the type.

Street food -- nothing

Shophouse place -- round up or 20 baht or even nothing are all normal

Middle level aircon restaurant -- 20 to 40 baht

High end restaurant -- if there's no service charge included, it's discretionary but then more but it's not based on percenta.ge.

To repeat -- this is not the US,.

Americans! Bushs response to 9/11, Trumps war on Iran and their tourists tipping in places that they shouldn't; three ways they've degraded travel for the rest of us.

56 minutes ago, PhilipHabib said:

I would stop @ 12% - handing me plates of food is not something I called skilled labor anywhere in the world.

Sign is obviously from USA

Interesting sign. Whether or not it is real, I do not know.

If it is real, the qustion that should be asked is why the restaurant does not pay its staff the legal minimum wage.

$2.13 per hour is a mininimum in some US states only if direct tips bring total earnings up to $7.25/hr, the US federal minimum wage. I would be hesitant to dine in a restaurant that was a minimum wage shop. You get the quality of staff you pay for. Proper restaurants are paying their servers $20/hour or more. With tips, their wages are $30-$40/hour.

3 hours ago, PhilipHabib said:

The alarming issue I can see is the wages.

How proud is the business owner, broadcasting their employees wage, how belittling.

A task of anyone working in hospitality is smiling, it's included in the job description. Who would employ a smileless person to serve their customers.

Edited August 24Aug 24 by SAFETY FIRST

Americans get preoccupied with tipping, they've been brainwashed, New Zealand was the best place, no tipping expected or wanted, staff were paid properly

looks like ai clickbait to me....

It's hard to say definitively if this image was generated or modified by AI.

However, visual analysis and discussions across online platforms point heavily toward this image being a digitally manipulated or completely AI-generated fake designed to provoke an emotional reaction. [1, 2]

Here are several indicators that suggest the sign is not a real physical object:

🔍 Clues and Red Flags

• Identical Background Template: The exact same background scene—including the reflection of the hand holding a phone, the street cars, the glass window pane, and the specific interior seating in the background—has been used to generate multiple variations of aggressive tipping signs. Independent investigations, such as a CultureMap Houston report, have flagged this exact template family as AI-generated "rage bait". [1, 2, 3]

• Flawed Math Logic: The sign claims the waiter's salary is $2.13 per hour, but then calculates a flat "$3.40" for the specific bill shown. A real restaurant calculation would not tie a fixed, single-hour fraction metric directly onto an individual customer's checkout receipt template like this.

• Unnatural Cleanliness and Text Alignment: The text on the page is perfectly sharp and lacks any natural paper textures, reflections, warping, or minor physical defects that occur when paper is printed out and taped to a window.

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

How proud is the business owner, broadcasting their employees wage, how belittling

Hey !!!!

Our employees work damn hard.

Edited August 24Aug 24 by blaze master

5 hours ago, PhilipHabib said:

I would stop @ 12% - handing me plates of food is not something I called skilled labor anywhere in the world.

Sign is obviously from USA

Some popular Japanese restaurants in San Francisco precharge you for the meal when you make the reservation including a 25% tip. Up to you, nobody is forcing you to eat there. Choose somewhere else.

Next! 😀

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Interesting sign. Whether or not it is real, I do not know.

Visual analysis proves the picture of the sign is AI generated. It is intended to spur debate about tipping and it succeeded in that respect. The poster claims customers should tip 25% of the bill, which is an increase over the standard 15% to 20% most Americans give.

From the U.S. Dept. of Labor site:

"An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage." https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips

That's a concession to small family-owned restaurants that only employ family members. Many would go out of business if forced to pay even the Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. Other larger restaurants have taken advantage of this concession, but employees will always receive at least the equivalent of the Federal minimum.

Thirty four states and a number of cities have minimum wages above $7.25. The highest minimum wage in the U.S. is $21.65 in Tukwila, Washington. The hourly minimum in NYC, with 25,000 dining places, is $17.00. With tips, wait staff in NYC tend to take home between $30 and $50 per hour.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If you're talking about restaurants it depends on the type.

Street food -- nothing

Shophouse place -- round up or 20 baht or even nothing are all normal

Middle level aircon restaurant -- 20 to 40 baht

High end restaurant -- if there's no service charge included, it's discretionary but then more but it's not based on percenta.ge.

To repeat -- this is not the US,.

Breakfast (alone) at Pitni (?)

before they closed 40 baht.

Breakfast at Pirates (Jomtien). 40 baht.

Chicken Parmesan with wine at La Bocca. 100 baht.

Same same at Beefeater’s and Bella Italia.

A little more for two people.

Still cheaper than America.

Edited August 24Aug 24 by HolmesEquivelant

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Americans get preoccupied with tipping, they've been brainwashed, New Zealand was the best place, no tipping expected or wanted, staff were paid properly

Nah, I'm fed up with tipping. So, I avoid places that expect a tip.

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

20 baht.

This isn't the US.

My post above yours was accurate. Appreciate you verifying.

2 minutes ago, TedG said:

Nah, I'm fed up with tipping. So, I avoid places that expect a tip.

I give enough so they don't hate me, give nothing and they will remember and hate you

4 hours ago, Grecian said:

Americans! Bushs response to 9/11, Trumps war on Iran and their tourists tipping in places that they shouldn't; three ways they've degraded travel for the rest of us.

I must admit I’m glad you can’t see me. I might be embarrassed by the tears streaming down my face because America has made your life degraded.

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

Hey !!!!

Our employees work damn hard.

Bloody hell, for $2 an hour, getting paid peanuts, I'd be working like a monkey

41 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

I give enough so they don't hate me, give nothing and they will remember and hate you

Yes, you can expect a little bit extra in your next meal, pubic hair, saliva or worse

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yes, you can expect a little bit extra in your next meal, pubic hair, saliva or worse

It's not so much that, they just become unfriendly and are slow to serve, bring food.

I stopped going to Pitinis because of the tip Nazi waitresses, maybe partly why others stopped going there

7 hours ago, HolmesEquivelant said:

Nothing irritates a Cheap Charlie more than tipping.

Nothing irritates me more than a cheap boss that doesn't pay a living wage to their staff!

I didn't see the US graphic when I posted.

The tipping culture in the USA is totally insane.

Ever 20 percent is seen as not great, and 15 percent is insulting.

Add to the menu price inflation and dining out is a luxury item and not a daily thing except for the rich.

Show some respect, pay them a decent wage, not make them go begging for tips

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

The tipping culture in the USA is totally insane.

Ever 20 percent is seen as not great, and 15 percent is insulting.

Add to the menu price inflation and dining out is a luxury item and not a daily thing except for the rich.

This is true and it's basically for the spendthrift who either have too much money or don't know how to properly manage it

Same can be said for the lazy slobs who order from delivery apps practically everyday with the 30 percent surcharge tacked onto the order

Tipping is an American thing , I am not American so don't usually tip, restaurant owners

should pay a living wage ,servers expecting a 25 % tip is crazy, pay it if you have more

money than sense,I have read that some servers get angry if you don't tip them enough ,

only in America of course ....

regards worgeordie

2 hours ago, henryford1958 said:

Show some respect, pay them a decent wage, not make them go begging for tips

Exactly. The restaurant owners underpay their staff, then manage to shift the responsibility for their underpayment onto the customers (for not tipping enough) rather than the restaurant owner (who is not paying a fair wage).

10 hours ago, PhilipHabib said:

I would stop @ 12% - handing me plates of food is not something I called skilled labor anywhere in the world.

Sign is obviously from USA

I was a good tipper, and unless they really screwed up, 15-20%

Working in restaurants & bartending made you appreciate a decent tip. When working in restaturant 10-15%, depending on venue, was a normal tip, and staff, us, happy with.

Bartending, a bit different, as more time to be personal, and always was a good night, and not at a fancy club. Waiters & waitresses don't have that luxury, if a good venue.

Hard to believe they are almost demanding 25%, especially with some of the prices I've seen on menus, at restaurants I used to dine at.

So the restaurant want you to pay their salaries, as if they don't recieve tips enough to bring up the salary to Fed. minimum wage, it falls on the restaurant to meet. Which is silly low to beging with.

It's embarrassing that any restaurant would pay their staff minimum wage to begin with.

And tipping wasn't a Yank thing, it was learned from Euro traveler Yanks witnesses back in the day, and imported to the USA.

Edited August 25Aug 25 by KhunLA

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Nothing irritates me more than a cheap boss that doesn't pay a living wage to their staff!

Agreed but I don’t see that happening in the near future.

Meanwhile tip. Especially in Thailand.

12 minutes ago, HolmesEquivelant said:

Agreed but I don’t see that happening in the near future.

Meanwhile tip. Especially in Thailand.

I leave it up to the wife to pay the bill. As I'll ...

... I way overtip basing 20% of days past

... I'll tip when not expected, offensive as ... 'what you think me poor'

Even street vendors, market stalls & ma/pa shop do quite well without tips. Sis's market stall bough a couple houses, cars, MB and sent 2 kids through Uni (out of town), so she does quite well without tips.