A Bizarre Story!

[Nip]

Nip,

I would agree that the way in which the guy seems to have tried to do the divorce looks sly. I don't like deception so like you would have probably pointed out the deception.

You're now aware she probably has little financial redress even if she wanted. Many foreign courts would consider the inheritance separately from joint assest in this timeframe just like Thailand. By all means help her get a lawyer if she wants one, but knowing what you do, you shouldn't be the one to push it.

You've given her a window to think about it which seems fair. After that though I'd say it's really up to her. I'm sure your hearts in the right place, but I'd seriously question trying to make any decisions as to what's best for her, and intervening further - as you could do more harm than good if not careful. In an ideal situation they would communicate and talk it thru. He clearly doesn't want to do that for whatever reason. Best you can do is be there for your friend, listen and help with her wishes if asked - while leaving your own thoughts/ emotions out of it and remaining rationally supportive.

Last week I had a gentile friend that was distraught and bewildered after being abandoned by her husband. I had not spoken to her since Friday but today she called and she is now a deeply scorned and bitter woman. All ready she has contacted his embassy in BANGKOK who confirmed that they jointly signed an agreement to a 50/50 split of his wealth should they divorce and his embassy advised that she should take the necessary steps ie locate a solicitor in his country and that he would most certainly have to cough up 50%? Now I dont know if this is the case. I dont even know if it would be a fair outcome? But it seems that he has ignited a fire in her belly that none of us believed existed... Then again her back is against the wall. I will plonk myself on the fence for the moment. I appreciate your input but the fact is he has left her no alternative but to pursue him. As I said she has no phone number or home address for him as he has changed both but his best mate did give her the address of her husbands family solicitor.... His friend is appalled at the situation also...

[elektrified]

I still think it's none of your business and you have no business interfering.

If he is from Switzerland, the Swiss will throw this paper in the trash. She will not receive anything. Same goes for Spain and a number of other countries in Europe.

Does anybody really believe that a 4 week marriage should entitle this woman to 50% of this guy's inheritance? Not a chance.

Furthermore, if I read it correctly, Mario has pointed out that inheritance is an exception to the community property rule in Thai law - which it should be.

These people just need to move on. Maybe the guy has bad manners but he has legal rights.

[waza]

Hmmm what I find Bizarre is that you believe this woman should screw the guy for as much as she can get, because she works in sales and is earning the most basic of salaries. You feel so outraged that you are compeled to interfere. However, the girl is in your company but you dont feel the need to fight for better wages and conditions for her.

If the shoe was on the other foot and the girl wanted a divorce, we would all be saying he only has himself to blame for marring a Thai lady ect ect.

[highlander76]

The way this man has treated this lady is disgusting I can understand why Nip has got involved in this but has she got any right to half of has inheritance no she has not but this w!nker is in for a shock now that has ex wife is now p!ss off she is going to be no push over now

[zzaa09]

Putting money issues aside. It does seem that the wife will be very embarassed and confused by the turn of events, unless she knows the reason why it has happened. Seems like he is being a bit of a coward. But without the details, who knows?

The brief story, as told to us, has a number of holes that could filled in. Very vague.

[Nip]

I still think it's none of your business and you have no business interfering.

If he is from Switzerland, the Swiss will throw this paper in the trash. She will not receive anything. Same goes for Spain and a number of other countries in Europe.

Does anybody really believe that a 4 week marriage should entitle this woman to 50% of this guy's inheritance? Not a chance.

Furthermore, if I read it correctly, Mario has pointed out that inheritance is an exception to the community property rule in Thai law - which it should be.

These people just need to move on. Maybe the guy has bad manners but he has legal rights.

Thing is she does have rights and that is what is worrying him! He signed an agreement to split his wealth 50/50 with her! He was a fool to sign the papers in the first place and a bigger fool to try and deceive her. In life we pay for our mistakes. He is lucky that she is not looking for 50% at this moment just a reason why? And his actions are going to win him no battles or friends!

[Nip]

The way this man has treated this lady is disgusting I can understand why Nip has got involved in this but has she got any right to half of has inheritance no she has not but this w!nker is in for a shock now that has ex wife is now p!ss off she is going to be no push over now

Thank you and your right... He could have closed the matter quite easily if he had used a bit of tact and not utilised such deceitful tactics! And she is major pi**ed off with him now. The first thing she did was talk to his embassy in Bangkok in an effort to contact him and the embassy staff appalled advised her of her rights and that he had signed a document in their offices giving her 50% of his wealth. The thing is in the embassy they recalled that she had stated at the time of signing that she did not want 50% and questioned why it was necessary for her to sign...

[Nip]

Hmmm what I find Bizarre is that you believe this woman should screw the guy for as much as she can get, because she works in sales and is earning the most basic of salaries. You feel so outraged that you are compeled to interfere. However, the girl is in your company but you dont feel the need to fight for better wages and conditions for her.

If the shoe was on the other foot and the girl wanted a divorce, we would all be saying he only has himself to blame for marring a Thai lady ect ect.

What bar table did you crawl up from under? I never said she should screw the guy for all she can get. Her job was a statement of fact and nothing more and you go on about I should fight for better wages and conditions for her... Jeeeez The point I was trying to get across that clearly went over your bottle of Leo was that she was not a parasite. A decent girl with no great ambition in life and devoid of all the golden medals the bar girls desire. My involvement is as a friend who is concerned. Nothing more nothing less. And I just thought somebody here might be able to offer some constructive opinions not beer goggled observations.

[Beacher]

And why should somebody who doesn't feel happy in married life and uses his legal right to divorce be called a w_nker?

Read the story; as soon he arrived in Europe he changed his phone number, contacted her through an acquaintance of his and then came to Thailand to get her to sign some papers.

Apparently he didn't take much time to talk to his wife and explain why he wanted to divorce. Many people act the same way when they like to own a dog because it's "fashion" and when they become boring just left them on a road or in an animal shelter. These I call wank...

I bet a lot of the Thai ladies who marry farang for money, don't take much time to talk to their husbands and explain why her "brother" is now kissing her with a great deal of passion when she wants a divorce. In other words, heart aches and deception go both ways.

I expect the woman is possibly confused, but as ONLY she and her European husband would truly know what has gone on between them, I side with those who question your right to intervene. For your own sake, it's probably best to mind your own business!

Edited November 17, 2009 by Beacher

[elektrified]

Mind your own business. This woman will not get 50 satang; that's for sure. She should move on with her life.

[KhaoNiaw]

If this was a Thai-Thai situation, it would be sorted out between the families and money would change hands. He made an offer of 5,000 baht so he's already thought of going that route - on the cheap. You'll probably need to find out what figure he's prepared to go to. It won't get rid of the shame or the pain, but I don't see why she shouldn't make him as uncomfortable as possible.

Taking the story at face value, the guy's a moron. She's probably better off without him and good luck to her if she wants to make him wriggle - she shouldn't let it take over her life though.

But I don't understand the part about signing an agreement for a 50-50 split at divorce. When/How was that done? Why would he do that at all? Maybe more to this than meets the eye?

[Nip]

If this was a Thai-Thai situation, it would be sorted out between the families and money would change hands. He made an offer of 5,000 baht so he's already thought of going that route - on the cheap. You'll probably need to find out what figure he's prepared to go to. It won't get rid of the shame or the pain, but I don't see why she shouldn't make him as uncomfortable as possible.

Taking the story at face value, the guy's a moron. She's probably better off without him and good luck to her if she wants to make him wriggle - she shouldn't let it take over her life though.

But I don't understand the part about signing an agreement for a 50-50 split at divorce. When/How was that done? Why would he do that at all? Maybe more to this than meets the eye?

Simple fact is the man is a moron and she is well rid of him. He insisted that they marry. He insisted that they sign a 50/50 divorce split. I know her well. She was- stupidly it turns out sitting in her room waiting for this guy to call for her to go to Italy. He never called and has now disappeared! Such is life. She will have to move on... But she is scorned big time! And he cant run as he has left a neat paper trail behind for a solicitor to follow.

[Nip]

Mind your own business. This woman will not get 50 satang; that's for sure. She should move on with her life.

Me thinks your obsession with Thai women and money stems from the fact that you were stung! And and not by a bee. At least not one with wings. Maybe a butterfly? I note your tail is wagging so bury your bone bucko and stop worrying. All is well thank you! Perhaps you should take your own advice and move on cos I deduce your anger problems are greater than hers cos she is doin just fine now. You could learn from her positive attitude! If something ails you Elektrified it's best to talk about it... And I'm sure all here are willing to proffer help as opposed to anger! Have a nice day and you know what? You are right she wont get 50 satang! Lassie

[Mario2008]

And me thinks we need to tone it down a bit and keep it civil. Let's not get into name calling or personal attacks.

[torrenova]

The worst comments made here are not actually about the woman / marriage / divorce issue, advice on which is very simple, but those made by westerners about money she may be due. The Thais love the western unearned income that many get from gullible westerns and now we have similar westerners advising on how she might be able to fleece this guy. He may be a cad and a coward, but that does not mean he should be fleeced.