Reason To Return

[steveweaver99]

Chaps

One thing that slightly bothers me about submitting my GF's visa application is the 'reason to return' criteria. My GF will need to submit a tenancy agreement and a letter of confirmation from her employer regarding leave entitlement along with payslips?

Are the payslips only required if she is financing the trip? Additionally, she works for a local business and there are no payslips (she is paid cash in hand), no contract of employment, even the room she stays in has no tenancy agreement.

Im sure she could obtain a letter from her employer for leave entitlement, but how credible is this for supporting reason to return? I would emphasise in a covering letter that we will not jeporadise any subsequent visa applications by overstaying as we plan a future together, but we have only been together 12+ months and our proof of relationship is not that strong, a little sketchy in evidence, although we have some photos(datestamped), emails, call logs and some other supporting info.

I had already spent several months in Thailand and her employer was very flexible in allowing her to spend time with me and then return to work when I leave Thailand.

She also has her ownership document for her Motorbike, not sure if this is of any help.

What are people experiences or thoughts on this.

Thanks

Edited February 27, 2010 by steveweaver99

[7by7]

It is unlikely that an ECO would find a Thai employer granting 6 months leave to an employee credible; most Thais only get two or three weeks holiday a year. A motor cycle is not really a strong incentive to return if someone is intent on entering the UK for a purpose other than that stated.

I feel that you should obviously explain her employment situation and what is happening about her job, but the main reason for her return will be your relationship and future plans together.

Steve,

I appreciate that this can be a stressful time for you, and you want to get the application right.

But this is the 7th topic you have started on your girlfriend's visa application since 18th January!

If you read back through your previous topics you will find that you have sometimes started a new topic to ask a question that has already been answered!

I suggest that you read through all your previous topics and collate all the information given to you. Then write down a list of anything you don't understand or any questions you have that have not been answered.

Once you have done that, start a new topic asking any further questions you may have and use that topic to post an other questions that may come up.

Doing so will, I feel, help you understand and judge the replies you are given as they will all be in one place. It will also mean you may receive more replies as members will not feel that they are repeating something already said to you in a different topic.

Once you have done this, I will leave that topic open and close all the others.

[steveweaver99]

It is unlikely that an ECO would find a Thai employer granting 6 months leave to an employee credible; most Thais only get two or three weeks holiday a year.

Credible or not this is reality. If the ECO has read the underlying facts he/she should. What we must remember there are many small businesses in Thailand particulary the tourist areas like Koh Chang, Pattaya etc etc have employers who are flexible with staff. Were not talking about MacDonalds, 711 or alike. But as you state this is down to what the ECO thinks. My concerns are that its not strictly leave but effectively leaving the job open, this may be frowned upon by the ECO.

I feel that you should obviously explain her employment situation and what is happening about her job, but the main reason for her return will be your relationship and future plans together.

Thanks

Steve,

I appreciate that this can be a stressful time for you, and you want to get the application right.

Where did you get that from? Not stressful for me :-) This is my first application and correct I do want to get the application right.

But this is the 7th topic you have started on your girlfriend's visa application since 18th January!

No disrespect and I thank you for the valuable input you have given me in my past threads, but what are these forums for if I cannot ask questions? Afterall people reading these threads will find them useful.

If you read back through your previous topics you will find that you have sometimes started a new topic to ask a question that has already been answered!

Not in this case.

I suggest that you read through all your previous topics and collate all the information given to you. Then write down a list of anything you don't understand or any questions you have that have not been answered.

Once you have done that, start a new topic asking any further questions you may have and use that topic to post an other questions that may come up.

Doing so will, I feel, help you understand and judge the replies you are given as they will all be in one place. It will also mean you may receive more replies as members will not feel that they are repeating something already said to you in a different topic.

Can you give examples?? You are probably refering to the general topic I started in 25th May 2009. As you said I didnt feel I had a sufficient reply so I have been more specific about the area I want answered and started a new thread. I dont see any harm in that.

Edited February 28, 2010 by steveweaver99

[7by7]

It is unlikely that an ECO would find a Thai But this is the 7th topic you have started on your girlfriend's visa application since 18th January!

No disrespect and I thank you for the valuable input you have given me in my past threads, but what are these forums for if I cannot ask questions? Afterall people reading these threads will find them useful.

Obviously you can ask questions, that is what this form is for.

You seem to have missed my point that you are likely to get better responses and be better able to sort through the answers if you confined your questions to one topic, rather than starting a new one every time something occurs to you; as explained further in my post.

Doing so will, I feel, help you understand and judge the replies you are given as they will all be in one place. It will also mean you may receive more replies as members will not feel that they are repeating something already said to you in a different topic.

Can you give examples?? You are probably refering to the general topic I started in 25th May 2009. As you said I didnt feel I had a sufficient reply so I have been more specific about the area I want answered and started a new thread. I dont see any harm in that.

As I said, I am talking about the topics you have started since 18th Jan 2010. Obviously if there has been a 7 month gap, then it is better to start a new topic; but 7 new topics on the same subject in a space of 5 weeks! Slightly OTT, I think.

If you can't be bothered to go through your old topics to see what advice you have been given before, why should other members do so?

Especially as at least one of your topics was asking for clarification of advice you had been given in a previous topic of yours.

This advice was posted in an effort to assist you receive the help you want.

[steveweaver99]

You seem to have missed my point that you are likely to get better responses and be better able to sort through the answers if you confined your questions to one topic, rather than starting a new one every time something occurs to you; as explained further in my post.

It makes more sense to me to organise specific questions with a matching topic heading into separate topics. Its horses for courses, I dont think it really makes alot of difference, it certainly doesn't confuse me. You also have the advantage of a more organised search match when using keywords and wanting a specific question answered, rather than having to trawl through lots of posting. Just my opinion by the way.

as members will not feel that they are repeating something already said to you in a different topic.

In this scenario, I dont think you have repeated yourself? In anycase you are probably always repeating yourself when you answer the same questions from different members.

As I said, I am talking about the topics you have started since 18th Jan 2010. Obviously if there has been a 7 month gap, then it is better to start a new topic; but 7 new topics on the same subject in a space of 5 weeks! Slightly OTT, I think.

Is there a restriction on the number of posts members can post in a specific time?

If you can't be bothered to go through your old topics to see what advice you have been given before, why should other members do so?

I wanted specific advice rather than general advice.

Look Im not trying to be difficult, I just think you are being a bit pedantic. I appreciate your trying to do a job, but all Im looking for is answers. And I do appreciate the time you take to answer my questions.

Edited February 28, 2010 by steveweaver99

[7by7]

Obviously there is no limit on the number of topics an individual member can start; subject to understandable restrictions on posting the same topic over multiple forums, spamming and similar.

I have given you my reasons for thinking you would be better served sticking to one topic for all your questions (all of which seem to have been answered when you first asked them last May/June, BTW). It is up to you whether you follow that advice or not.

Yes, it can be frustrating when a newbie asks a question which has already been asked by someone else in the forum; but that is the nature of the beast.