Possible Assassination Attempt On PM Abhisit?

[jdinasia]

JD - Nah I think its more a figment of a paranoid regime. An assassination is the last thing the reds want because it would be a death nail for their cause.

The red cause is pretty much dead anyways ... something big is their only chance. But paranoid? That is your man Thaksin's realm. look at his history of crying and talking about voodoo/black magic.

[developer3d]

haha its called a double entendre - your english ?

Class struggle?

Have to say that both sides' tactics are showing absolutely no class in this conflict at all.

all very tawdry.

the minister was talking about the Class Strugle, as two different, opposing classess in the society (the rulling class and the working class), do fight each other.

it's not about "class" as a synonym of "quality".

words have many different meanings

[brianb1944]

would they be the same people, who tried to "assassinate" him a year ago, around songkran, in an empty car?

or those who missed sondhi with 180 bullets?

all looks like a cheap set up to make martyrs from themselves and to boost own popularity

"The minister also said the society will not support the claim by fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra that the red-shirt protest is a class struggle."

ups minister, don't mention a class struggle - when it really starts, you won't be able to stop it. A large part military and police will be against you, defending their own class interestes, which contradict yours and the rulling elite

I am puzzled as to the nature of your obviously, very vested interest in the outcome of this internal struggle, which one would think has very little to do with farang massage parlour owners??

[fxe1200]

I do not believe one second that there would be an assassination attempt on the PM. Desperate elements within the government are simply looking for sympathy. This is not uncommon in dictatorships. It would not hold any substance as murdering this man would not change a thing. There are others that really hold power and would make more sense to get rid of. The fact that the red shirts have not resorted to destructive action says enough. The yellow shirts had no trouble shooting on people from under a portrait on passerby. They had no trouble to hide hundreds of kilo's of explosives in the government house compound, they were the ones who paralyzed the country by making "fun", according FM Kasit on the airport by screwing hundreds of people out of a job both foreign and local.

If anyone has visited the government house during their occupation they know that their guards were under the influence of drugs and heavily armed. If there is an attempt it will come from his owns ranks not from the reds. The reds are always associated with Thaksin maybe it is time to read the latest article of Giles Ungpakorn, another man screwed out of his job for speaking out.

....all guesswork, too much "if", "believe", "maybe". I do not think, we do need this kind of "information" on Thaivisa.com.

[connel707]

JD - Nah I think its more a figment of a paranoid regime. An assassination is the last thing the reds want because it would be a death nail for their cause.

Hi BritM... can I ask where in the UK do you hail from... I`m having a bet with my wife and her friends...

[brianb1944]

I do not believe one second that there would be an assassination attempt on the PM. Desperate elements within the government are simply looking for sympathy. This is not uncommon in dictatorships. It would not hold any substance as murdering this man would not change a thing. There are others that really hold power and would make more sense to get rid of. The fact that the red shirts have not resorted to destructive action says enough. The yellow shirts had no trouble shooting on people from under a portrait on passerby. They had no trouble to hide hundreds of kilo's of explosives in the government house compound, they were the ones who paralyzed the country by making "fun", according FM Kasit on the airport by screwing hundreds of people out of a job both foreign and local.

If anyone has visited the government house during their occupation they know that their guards were under the influence of drugs and heavily armed. If there is an attempt it will come from his owns ranks not from the reds. The reds are always associated with Thaksin maybe it is time to read the latest article of Giles Ungpakorn, another man screwed out of his job for speaking out.

what an incredibly long winded crock

[asean]

Seems the only ones keeping the red shirt momentum roling are TV, the nation rag and the dozens of news stations vainly looking for something sensational to report.

[george]

Update:

Intelligence warns of assassination attempts against PM

BANGKOK: –- Intelligence reports have warned of possible attempts to assassinate the prime minister.

Minister to the Prime Minister's Office Satit Wonghnongtaey stated that the warning has been unveiled for some time. Hence the prime minister has temporarily moved from his residence in downtown to a safe house in the 11th Infantry Regiment on the outskirts of Bangkok.

Speaking of this morning’s blood-splatter incident at the PM’s house, Mr Satit said the premier himself was not happy but did not consider filing a lawsuit against the offenders. He said that such action is not a peaceful means and may lead to violence.

The minister reckoned that the demonstrators are moving aimlessly while groups of extremists are also stepping up their roles. He believed however that the public will not accept radical movement.

Mr Satit admitted that negotiating with the core leaders of the UDD has become more difficult as they have started to be in conflict with each other.

-- NNT 2010-03-17

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[brianb1944]

Class struggle?

Have to say that both sides' tactics are showing absolutely no class in this conflict at all.

all very tawdry.

the minister was talking about the Class Strugle, as two different, opposing classess in the society (the rulling class and the working class), do fight each other.

it's not about "class" as a synonym of "quality".

words have many different meanings

No!!! didnt pick that up

[jackinbkk]

more hearsay news I see

[dobadoy]

//deleted//

...and yet you continue to spend your time here...your convictions and your actions don't seem to add up to rational behaviour - who does that remind us of, anyone?

[frodo]

I do not believe one second that there would be an assassination attempt on the PM. Desperate elements within the government are simply looking for sympathy. This is not uncommon in dictatorships. It would not hold any substance as murdering this man would not change a thing. There are others that really hold power and would make more sense to get rid of. The fact that the red shirts have not resorted to destructive action says enough. The yellow shirts had no trouble shooting on people from under a portrait on passerby. They had no trouble to hide hundreds of kilo's of explosives in the government house compound, they were the ones who paralyzed the country by making "fun", according FM Kasit on the airport by screwing hundreds of people out of a job both foreign and local.

If anyone has visited the government house during their occupation they know that their guards were under the influence of drugs and heavily armed. If there is an attempt it will come from his owns ranks not from the reds. The reds are always associated with Thaksin maybe it is time to read the latest article of Giles Ungpakorn, another man screwed out of his job for speaking out.

Hey, the Reds seem to have that intention in mind when they attacked his motorcade during the black Songkran riots! Don't discount things so easily.

Cheers, Rick

Agreed, Rick. Some major selective memory issues going on.

Besides the original posters opinion that the guards were on drugs, where can I find this information?

[yoshiwara]

I do not believe one second that there would be an assassination attempt on the PM. Desperate elements within the government are simply looking for sympathy. This is not uncommon in dictatorships. It would not hold any substance as murdering this man would not change a thing. There are others that really hold power and would make more sense to get rid of. The fact that the red shirts have not resorted to destructive action says enough. The yellow shirts had no trouble shooting on people from under a portrait on passerby. They had no trouble to hide hundreds of kilo's of explosives in the government house compound, they were the ones who paralyzed the country by making "fun", according FM Kasit on the airport by screwing hundreds of people out of a job both foreign and local.

If anyone has visited the government house during their occupation they know that their guards were under the influence of drugs and heavily armed. If there is an attempt it will come from his owns ranks not from the reds. The reds are always associated with Thaksin maybe it is time to read the latest article of Giles Ungpakorn, another man screwed out of his job for speaking out.

One very frustrated Thaksin apologist. Now that Thaksin has lost the plot, the apologists are rudderless and making it up as they go along. When someone such as the above donates his blood for the silly little stunt, they get light-headed and imagine all sorts of things. You can see also that for some reds the unintended peacefulness of the last weekend has been just too much to bear. Boy are they mad!

[samjaidee]

He got the report from his wife's uncle's maid's brother so you can be sure it's genuine.

[craigt3365]

I do not believe one second that there would be an assassination attempt on the PM. Desperate elements within the government are simply looking for sympathy. This is not uncommon in dictatorships. It would not hold any substance as murdering this man would not change a thing. There are others that really hold power and would make more sense to get rid of. The fact that the red shirts have not resorted to destructive action says enough. The yellow shirts had no trouble shooting on people from under a portrait on passerby. They had no trouble to hide hundreds of kilo's of explosives in the government house compound, they were the ones who paralyzed the country by making "fun", according FM Kasit on the airport by screwing hundreds of people out of a job both foreign and local.

If anyone has visited the government house during their occupation they know that their guards were under the influence of drugs and heavily armed. If there is an attempt it will come from his owns ranks not from the reds. The reds are always associated with Thaksin maybe it is time to read the latest article of Giles Ungpakorn, another man screwed out of his job for speaking out.

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Dude, are U for real? Do you LIVE in Thailand or just a has been tourist? It is easy to hire anyone in Thailand to kill off someone... could be your jealous girlfriend hiring a motorbike guy for 5000 baht to knock you off to the mofia taking care of "business". And you think Toxin (sp) was legitimate???? Either you are writing up sarcasm or not very intelligent.

An assassination attempt is entirely possible here in Thailand. Whether this report is true or not is another issue. But you can pretty much guarantee somebody out there has planned to knock him off at one point or another...just like there are some who would like to do the same with Thaksin. I do believe Seh Daeng's partners website listed a few folks they wanted to knock off????

[Crushdepth]

It's always a *plot* that's uncovered and nobody ever gets arrested. These announcements are mostly rubbish regardless of what side they come from.

[bangkokrick]

'Mr Satit admitted that negotiating with the core leaders of the UDD has become more difficult as they have started to be in conflict with each other'.

This is the scary bit. What are they in conflict about? There never seems to be much detail in these reports. Now that the flock have returned home maybe the hard liners are plotting something radical. Lets hope not.

Cheers, Rick

[george]

Clarification:

Thaivisa received the following in the news feed from MCOT at 18:37 this evening:

Metropolitan police confirm report of assassination attempt on PM Abhisit

We posted that to our sms subscribers and it was the inititial headline.

Please don't shoot us, the messenger.

Thanks

George

[neverdie]

Anyways - what leader doesn't get daily threats on his life? Pretty much common stuff.

Doesnt make it right or acceptable.

[britmaveric]

JD - Nah I think its more a figment of a paranoid regime. An assassination is the last thing the reds want because it would be a death nail for their cause.

Hi BritM... can I ask where in the UK do you hail from... I`m having a bet with my wife and her friends...

Oxford

[rabo]

would they be the same people, who tried to "assassinate" him a year ago, around songkran, in an empty car?

or those who missed sondhi with 180 bullets?

all looks like a cheap set up to make martyrs from themselves and to boost own popularity

Let see, Sondi, Mr. Taksin's arch enemy, staged his own assignation to make Mr. Taksin look bad. To make it look convincing, he has himself shot in the head with an AK47 and everyone in the car including his driver killed. Got to admit that fooled me.

[neverdie]

Update:

Intelligence warns of assassination attempts against PM

BANGKOK: –- Intelligence reports have warned of possible attempts to assassinate the prime minister.

Ohhh Intelligence reports ..... this is like United States of America all over again, "Sadam has weapons of mass destruction".

[bangkokrick]

Did you win the bet?

Cheers, Rick

[bangkokrick]

Update:

Intelligence warns of assassination attempts against PM

BANGKOK: –- Intelligence reports have warned of possible attempts to assassinate the prime minister.

Ohhh Intelligence reports ..... this is like United States of America all over again, "Sadam has weapons of mass destruction".

They did, Chemical Ali! Always thought that it would be a great name for a movie. Unless you are a Kurd of course.

Cheers, Rick

[gemini81]

JD - Nah I think its more a figment of a paranoid regime. An assassination is the last thing the reds want because it would be a death nail for their cause.

so sure? c'mon who goes to his house and pours their blood everywhere??

Could also be the gov't doesn't wanna publicly point out the accused out of not wanting to create more violence.

Not everything is a conspiracy theory........can't rule out what those rednecks might try and do!

[gemini81]

Update:

Intelligence warns of assassination attempts against PM

BANGKOK: –- Intelligence reports have warned of possible attempts to assassinate the prime minister.

Ohhh Intelligence reports ..... this is like United States of America all over again, "Sadam has weapons of mass destruction".

he did bro! and the 4th largest military. make your words sweet in case you have to eat them. why not keep it on topic too?

[Publicus]

Update:

Intelligence warns of assassination attempts against PM

BANGKOK: –- Intelligence reports have warned of possible attempts to assassinate the prime minister.

Minister to the Prime Minister's Office Satit Wonghnongtaey stated that the warning has been unveiled for some time. Hence the prime minister has temporarily moved from his residence in downtown to a safe house in the 11th Infantry Regiment on the outskirts of Bangkok.

Speaking of this morning's blood-splatter incident at the PM's house, Mr Satit said the premier himself was not happy but did not consider filing a lawsuit against the offenders. He said that such action is not a peaceful means and may lead to violence.

The minister reckoned that the demonstrators are moving aimlessly while groups of extremists are also stepping up their roles. He believed however that the public will not accept radical movement.

Mr Satit admitted that negotiating with the core leaders of the UDD has become more difficult as they have started to be in conflict with each other.

-- NNT 2010-03-17

[newsfooter][/newsfooter]

We need more details and specifics in support of this statement by the PM's office to have a more clear idea, but the fact that the PM Abhisit himself was relocated, to within the safety of a heavily fortified army post away from the center of most Redshirt actions and activities can lend support to the statement. Also, during previous Redshirt actions the PM hadn't retreated to a 'safe house' and while openly staying in a government military reservation is hardly the standard meaning of a safe house, we get the point that the PM of the country is under protection that is immediately present and large scale.

Yes the government knew the PM's house would be splattered with real blood, which could be reason enuff for him to stay elsewhere during the public actions of the Reds; it also places the PM continually at the headquarters of the government's response to the mass actions in the capital.

It's real that the life of PM Abhisit previously had been seriously and realistically threatened during a public radio broadcast in Chiang Mai and that the PM accepted security advice to cancel the planned visit, that the PM consequently wore armoured body protection for a period of time afterward. Given there's already been a realistic public call to assassinate the PM in Chiang Mai and anyone in the room/building with him, the present report from the PM's office is not so lightly to be dismissed. Other leathal threats made against PM Abhisit already have been referenced at this thread.

Historiography and social science reliably tells us that time, place and circumstance has everything to do with any anlysis of a significant situation/developmet/occurrance. This reality has everything to do with the expectation and deductions made by such personnel as those in the government who are in charge of the safety and life of leaders of government. As previously during Redshirt behaviours, this well tested accurate formula does apply concerning the present time, place and circumstance.

We do need more information. It is true however, and it is a tactic security forces use, to reveal their knowledge of real threats against the leader of a government in order to spook anyone who might be suspected of planning or believed to be involved in such a repugnant action. Doing so can be preventative against any plotters and also can alert the public to actually recognize something they'd casually noticed or even suspiciously noticed but allowed to pass from their attention and cause the public to assist security forces - always a major source to the authorities anywhere in identifying culprits and in making arrests.

Thaksin vainly and desperately trying to reduce and falsely morph Abhisit into a Hitler is a radical escalation of his rhetoric, which also raises the temperature among the people and especially within the PM's always sensitive security units, who often can't be blamed for their legitimate actions to prevent the worst.

Edited March 17, 2010 by Publicus

[jdinasia]

What! why is the title assassination attempt?

A very good question!

Why is ThaiVisa making it sound like there was an actual attempt made on his life when it appears all that took place was a rumor?

The answer is in the thread. Reading is your friend

[Nuchanart]

IMHO, it must be the RED; because the YELLOW are the good guys.

[britmaveric]

IMHO, it must be the RED; because the YELLOW are the good guys.