Building A House

[chiangmaibruce]

Beautiful property Rimmer, thanks for the peek

I'll second that ... immaculate ... and I like the cats too

[stgrhe]

I have installed this roof insulation made by CPAC Monier. It comes with double-sided shiny reflective aluminium with glass fibre insulation inside. Although the construction is still not completed one can feel a huge temperature difference between the outdoor shaded areas and the indoor.

CPAC Monier roof insulation cut open

Installed roof insulation

[Rimmer]

Our South facing deck is 5 meters deep a further 1 1/2 meter roof overhang. All walls Q Con, House is 1 mtr off the ground with air flow under. High ceilings maybe 7 or 8 meters with vented roof space. Back wall never sees the sun. Place stays pretty cool.

Some pictures if anyone wants some ideas http://www.flickr.com/photos/banjopicker/ Search around for the deck and outside kitchen pictures, they are all in there somewhere.

awesome place mate, done a nice job there, if u dont mind me asking where is that you live and approx how much would you have spent doing all that?

cheers

Close to Ban Ampur. 10 m including 1 m for power lines

[dmax]

you buy a special block from home mart at 25 baht each they apparently keep the house cooler , very expensive compared to the blocks i built my house with at 4 baht each.

[Naam]

you buy a special block from home mart at 25 baht each they apparently keep the house cooler , very expensive compared to the blocks i built my house with at 4 baht each.

ahem... what is the size of the "special 25 Baht block" and the size of your "4 Baht block"?

[Jonny B]

I have installed this roof insulation made by CPAC Monier. It comes with double-sided shiny reflective aluminium with glass fibre insulation inside. Although the construction is still not completed one can feel a huge temperature difference between the outdoor shaded areas and the indoor.

CPAC Monier roof insulation cut open

Installed roof insulation

looks god mate, did you do any wall insulation, can that stuff be used in walls also?

[stgrhe]

looks god mate, did you do any wall insulation, can that stuff be used in walls also?

No, the walls are made of double super blocks with air gaps of about 5cm without insulation. Air is a fairly good insulator if it is concealed and the electrical conduits and the water pipes are mounted in the cavities.

I don't think this type of roof insulation is suitable for walls unless one builds metal frames to keep the insulation in place.

[Jonny B]

looks god mate, did you do any wall insulation, can that stuff be used in walls also?

No, the walls are made of double super blocks with air gaps of about 5cm without insulation. Air is a fairly good insulator if it is concealed and the electrical conduits and the water pipes are mounted in the cavities.

I don't think this type of roof insulation is suitable for walls unless one builds metal frames to keep the insulation in place.

ahh k, great thanks for that mate. with the superblocks (they are the same as the q-con blocks yeah?) have you tried to drill much stuff into the walls for built ins etc? i have read they are not good or that sort of thing, any experience?

cheers

[Crossy]

ahh k, great thanks for that mate. with the superblocks (they are the same as the q-con blocks yeah?) have you tried to drill much stuff into the walls for built ins etc? i have read they are not good or that sort of thing, any experience?

You need to use the correct type of anchor http://www.hilti.com/holcom/page/module/pr...p;nodeId=-11094 or http://web3.america.net/~demandp/aac.php plus others.

Trying to use regular wall plugs for anything other than the lightest loads will end in tears

[Chonburiram]

let me repeat that building a house in Thailand which is [temperature wise] even during the hot season cool or cooler than the minimum ambient temperature without using any airconditioning is nothing but fiction or the claim of "experts" who posses a wealth of "no idea".

AMEN

Edited May 11, 2010 by Chonburiram

[stgrhe]

ahh k, great thanks for that mate. with the superblocks (they are the same as the q-con blocks yeah?) have you tried to drill much stuff into the walls for built ins etc? i have read they are not good or that sort of thing, any experience?

cheers

Yes, super blocks and q-con are basically the same stuff but different manufacturer. No, I haven't drilled anything yet as the house isn't finished, but I have experience from this type of material before and I have never had any problem.

One should, however, use a special type of screw for this material. I attach a link to a site that will show you the type of screw one should use.

http://www.gunneboindustries.com/en/Fasten...eight-concrete/

[Jonny B]

ahh k, great thanks for that mate. with the superblocks (they are the same as the q-con blocks yeah?) have you tried to drill much stuff into the walls for built ins etc? i have read they are not good or that sort of thing, any experience?

cheers

Yes, super blocks and q-con are basically the same stuff but different manufacturer. No, I haven't drilled anything yet as the house isn't finished, but I have experience from this type of material before and I have never had any problem.

One should, however, use a special type of screw for this material. I attach a link to a site that will show you the type of screw one should use.

http://www.gunneboindustries.com/en/Fasten...eight-concrete/

great, thanks for that mate.

[Naam]

ahh k, great thanks for that mate. with the superblocks (they are the same as the q-con blocks yeah?) have you tried to drill much stuff into the walls for built ins etc? i have read they are not good or that sort of thing, any experience?

You need to use the correct type of anchor http://www.hilti.com/holcom/page/module/pr...p;nodeId=-11094 or http://web3.america.net/~demandp/aac.php plus others.

Trying to use regular wall plugs for anything other than the lightest loads will end in tears

31 years, three different homes, regular plastic anchors (see picture), never any problem

[Crossy]

Well, Naam may have had no problems using regular anchors in autoclaved concrete but I've had several pull out.

Like I said light loads (like the bog-roll holder and medicine cabinet) no issues, heavier loads (like your 3m long kitchen cabinet full of canned goods) wise to use the correct anchors.

[Naam]

Well, Naam may have had no problems using regular anchors in autoclaved concrete but I've had several pull out.

Like I said light loads (like the bog-roll holder and medicine cabinet) no issues, heavier loads (like your 3m long kitchen cabinet full of canned goods) wise to use the correct anchors.

Crossy, i shamefully admit that my case seems to be like the proverbial one of the bumble bee flying. for those who are not informed:

"according to all laws of aerodynamics and aeronautics a bumble bee is not able to fly. as bumble bees never study these subjects they are not aware of their shortcomings, but fly happily from blossom to blossom and suck sweet nectar."

[t.s]

How are the whirlybirds working? I am considering that, but worry about introducing roof leaks!!!!

Personally I dont know but we have 2 in our aussie house, they work fine, the thai ones were twice the size & half the cost, I'll be back @ the thai house in nov , I,ll give a report then.

regards songhklasid.

P.S. my next project is roof insulation ( the thick fibreglass bats like we have in aus) any suppliers around C.M.?

yes, it will be nice to know how much of a difference they make in the cool season.

Edited May 26, 2010 by t.s