Spreaders of Conspiracy Theories: Unmasking the Motivations Behind the Lies

[Buckethead]

this is another video... watch the reporters face pratically DROP ...lol

Edited May 8, 2010 by Buckethead

[buddy]

Non violent Tax revolts are what are needed to send a message to these same same Governments that we have had enough of the Bankers enslaving generations and corrupting Democracy through your high taxes and unaccountable spend spend, borrow, borrow policies that the ordinary citizen has to pay back.

If some one borrowed money in your name and you didn't know about it, it would be a Criminal offense called theft and deception!

[zaphodbeeblebrox]

Join the Glen Beck gold investment scam. Beck is the only idiot who would give Celente a soapbox.

[Goshawk]

More of Celente's forecasts from a couple of days ago

[buddy]

More of Celente's forecasts from a couple of days ago

Join the fledgling TEA Party... against big Government and high taxes, just at grass roots level in the UK now!

[gregb]

All very interesting, but completely ignores the fact that America's rise was not based on the "American fighting spirit" so much as it was based on an extreme endowment of natural resources. America became an empire when oil became the precursor to everything, and America was the largest producer of the gooey black stuff.

This has all been spent now. The American people are the same, but they are going to have to learn to accept a much lower position in the world. They need to bring back their military, stop trying to police the world, and accept they are no longer the leader.

The video gives the sense that renaissance can restore business as usual if everyone just tries hard enough. This is irresponsible. No matter what happens, American's standard of living is going to decline for the next few centuries. The choices are, work together and try to mitigate this as much possible (maybe maintaining a standard of living like is currently seen in Mexico), or stay with the current model and wallow in complete collapse, misery and unimaginable death. Either way, America will never retain its former glory or living standards. They were based on energy reserves which are now gone.

How is this related to Thailand again? I love the theme, but I am struggling to find a tie in.

[Ned]

Cheap labour rules! So much better when we didn't have to pay any wages at all. Ships even sailed on windpower back then when the US was on the way up.

[Goshawk]

Economist Webster Tarpley predicting chaotic collapse of the euro & european central bank with the british banks & pound to follow

eek !

rucksak full of survival gear and a bag of krugerrands on standby...

[witold]

Some people who lived in Thailand a long time or never lived in the US, are completely out of touch with reality. 

I am in the US at the moment.  There is no 'melt down' or huge crisis.  Recessions are cyclical occurrences; things are not as great as 2005, but you have to keep things in perspective.  If you were to come here as a visitor right now for a few months, you would not be able to tell the difference from 2005.  

Regions that experienced huge real estate appreciation are now back to normal prices.  And regions that did not experience the real estate boom did not suffer through the real estate bust.  People most negatively affected by this 'bust' are mostly people who were most positively affected during the 'boom'.  The kid salesman realtor who made 200K first year out of school is not going to get that sort of wage back anytime soon.  On the low end, uneducated unskilled workers are again struggling to gain decent paying employment.  In other words, things are generally back to pre-boom years, IE: NORMAL.  

Unemployment is still historically high, but compare that to EU and things look better.  And as the country comes out of the recession, things will be back to normal.  Tea Party will disappear after the next presidential election.  Hate to break it to you, but the world is not falling apart here.  

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That said, it is true that US can not retain its former glory forever.  But this is more a fact that the rest of the World developed and finally caught up a bit - fewer people in Asia/S Am/Africa are living in shacks with no plumbing/electricity/etc and there are more cities in the world with western lifestyle standards - not that the US still doesn't have a superior mix of financial/economical/socio indicators.  It's just that now the edge that the US has doesn't appear nearly as big.

Will US be superseded by a new superpower?  No.  Even if - when? - US loses #1 status, it will not matter because the difference between #1 and #5 will be small.  It's not like 1940 when the US could take on 2 continental wars and had a huge edge on everybody.  People look at China as a prospect, but if you look at their demographics, you will find they also have a massive problem to deal with starting in ~2020-2025 as their population ages.  

Edited May 10, 2010 by witold