Owning Land In Thailand

[equium]

checked this out and your100 % correct,the reason i wasnt told is he thought we knew,hes checking into it a bit further as he thinks i can give it to my wife or daughter but still leagally keep 1 rai in my name,anything over 1 rai has to be sold on or given to a thai national within 12 months,it dont really matter thuo we will keep it in the family,i just sign it over to the wife or daughter.

another thing is if i do get to keep the 1 rai i can only leave that to a thai national in my will not another farang.

I don't know that what you say is correct or not but previous threads on this forum regarding property received by a farang from a will stated that a farang can only receive up to 1 rai of land and that the 1 rai must be put in a Thai national's name within 1 year. What you seem to be claiming is that you are going to be able to keep 1 rai of land in your name so long as you are alive.

Although I don't think you have this right I am actually hoping that you are right.

a farang can be left any amount of land in a will.

but how it used to be, as i found out this week is anything over 1 rai had to be sold or given to a thai national with in 12 months and you could keep 1 rai only in your name

,from what i am now finding out is that law may have changed and you cant even keep the 1 rai anymore,however if it was left to you before a certain date you can still keep it,

i was left mine 4 months ago so have 8 months, well slightly less to sign it over to my wife or daughter,this will keep it in the family.im waiting for conformation about the 1 rai part.

even if i have to sign it over for 1 whole year i will as a farang leagally own land in thailand.

[equium]

The ways to own land are so limited you may as well forget it, BOI approval and deposit something like 40 million means you can own 1 rai for a house or become a Thai national. I am sure the above information about keeping 1 rai is wrong.

this is the old rule but i think its changed now and i will have to give it to the wife or daughter,waiting to find out.

• Receive an inheritance as a statutory heir under section 93 of the Land Code, in this instance, the total area including the land which has already been acquired (or has not yet been acquired) shall not exceed that specified in section 87 of the Land Code, i.e. not more than 1 Rai (1,600 sqm.) for a residential purpose

[yabaaaa]

The ways to own land are so limited you may as well forget it, BOI approval and deposit something like 40 million means you can own 1 rai for a house or become a Thai national. I am sure the above information about keeping 1 rai is wrong.

this is the old rule but i think its changed now and i will have to give it to the wife or daughter,waiting to find out.

• Receive an inheritance as a statutory heir under section 93 of the Land Code, in this instance, the total area including the land which has already been acquired (or has not yet been acquired) shall not exceed that specified in section 87 of the Land Code, i.e. not more than 1 Rai (1,600 sqm.) for a residential purpose

Surely giving it to your wife or child means you DONT own it and the whole point was you owning it?

[yabaaaa]

The ways to own land are so limited you may as well forget it, BOI approval and deposit something like 40 million means you can own 1 rai for a house or become a Thai national. I am sure the above information about keeping 1 rai is wrong.

this is the old rule but i think its changed now and i will have to give it to the wife or daughter,waiting to find out.

Receive an inheritance as a statutory heir under section 93 of the Land Code, in this instance, the total area including the land which has already been acquired (or has not yet been acquired) shall not exceed that specified in section 87 of the Land Code, i.e. not more than 1 Rai (1,600 sqm.) for a residential purpose

Surely giving it to your wife or child means you DONT own it and the whole point was you owning it?

I think the thing to note is "the interior ministry" part as from what Ive heard its never been granted, in theory yes in reality never been done???

Foreigners as statutory heir or inheritor under will of land

Under section 93 of the Land Code: 'A foreigner who acquires land by inheritance as statutory heir can have an ownership in such land upon a permission of the Minister of Interior. However, the total plots of land shall not be exceeding of those specified in Section 87'.

Any foreigner who is married to a Thai national is under Thai law a statutory heir of their Thai spouse can apply for ownership according to section 93 of the Thailand Land Code Act. However, the over fifty year old Section 93 of the Land Code must seen in combination with Section 86; 'aliens may acquire land by virtue of the provisions of a treaty giving the right to own immovable properties and subject to the provisions of this Code'. The last treaty was terminated in 1970 and there is currently no treaty with any country to allow a foreigner to acquire land and no minister will allow a foreigner to inherit land in Thailand. Under present law any foreigner who acquires land by inheritance will have to dispose the land within a reasonable period (meaning up to 1 year) to a Thai national. If the foreigner fails to dispose of the land the Director-General of the Land Department is authorized to dispose of the land and retain a fee of 5% of the sale price before any deductions or taxes.

Edited June 18, 2010 by yabaaaa

[CDNinKS]

Sorry, posted same as yabaaa

Edited June 18, 2010 by CDNinKS

[timpatco]

Somchai u wasted your time and money Farang can already own a house in Thailand in their own name................ sadly not the land........................................doh!!

a farang can own land in thailand,there are limits to the amount but it can be done i leagally own 2.5 acres,and thats the plot where the house sits it was left to me in my wifes mothers will,the wife owns the rest.

you can leagally own a certain amount of land that is bequethed to you by a thai national in a will.

News to me. AFAIK if land is left to a falang he has to sell it within a year.

i havent been told any of that only owned it for 4 months now and im leagally married to a thai national so dont know if that makes a difference,all i had to do was insert into my will its left to my wife or our daughter if anything happens to me,i was not told anything about having to sell it by the laywers when it was done.

Certainly your spelling and grammar could help you pass you off as a Thai. Now all you need to do is...aw forget it, this is not s much fun as it used to be

[LivinLOS]

you can leagally own a certain amount of land that is bequethed to you by a thai national in a will.

You have one year to divest of it tho..

Clocks ticking.

[LivinLOS]

checked this out and your100 % correct,the reason i wasnt told is he thought we knew,hes checking into it a bit further as he thinks i can give it to my wife or daughter but still leagally keep 1 rai in my name,anything over 1 rai has to be sold on or given to a thai national within 12 months,it dont really matter thuo we will keep it in the family,i just sign it over to the wife or daughter.

another thing is if i do get to keep the 1 rai i can only leave that to a thai national in my will not another farang.

You dont get to keep 1 rai.. Wife Died, so I know..

Nice try.. But 'Thailand is for Thais'.. Dont forget it..

[johnnyk]

checked this out and your100 % correct,the reason i wasnt told is he thought we knew,hes checking into it a bit further as he thinks i can give it to my wife or daughter but still leagally keep 1 rai in my name,anything over 1 rai has to be sold on or given to a thai national within 12 months,it dont really matter thuo we will keep it in the family,i just sign it over to the wife or daughter.

another thing is if i do get to keep the 1 rai i can only leave that to a thai national in my will not another farang.

You dont get to keep 1 rai.. Wife Died, so I know..

Nice try.. But 'Thailand is for Thais'.. Dont forget it..

Tha-tha-thaaat's all folks!

[kenallday]

everything is working okay - going to register my land tommorrow - and I will own the lot legally

[yabaaaa]

everything is working okay - going to register my land tommorrow - and I will own the lot legally

And what happened??

[donx]

checked this out and your100 % correct,the reason i wasnt told is he thought we knew,hes checking into it a bit further as he thinks i can give it to my wife or daughter but still leagally keep 1 rai in my name,anything over 1 rai has to be sold on or given to a thai national within 12 months,it dont really matter thuo we will keep it in the family,i just sign it over to the wife or daughter.

another thing is if i do get to keep the 1 rai i can only leave that to a thai national in my will not another farang.

I don't know that what you say is correct or not but previous threads on this forum regarding property received by a farang from a will stated that a farang can only receive up to 1 rai of land and that the 1 rai must be put in a Thai national's name within 1 year. What you seem to be claiming is that you are going to be able to keep 1 rai of land in your name so long as you are alive.

Although I don't think you have this right I am actually hoping that you are right.

a farang can be left any amount of land in a will.

but how it used to be, as i found out this week is anything over 1 rai had to be sold or given to a thai national with in 12 months and you could keep 1 rai only in your name

,from what i am now finding out is that law may have changed and you cant even keep the 1 rai anymore,however if it was left to you before a certain date you can still keep it,

i was left mine 4 months ago so have 8 months, well slightly less to sign it over to my wife or daughter,this will keep it in the family.im waiting for conformation about the 1 rai part.

even if i have to sign it over for 1 whole year i will as a farang leagally own land in thailand.

This Thread appears to be supporting your claims. Have a look.

[kenallday]

can anyone recommend a Thai lawyer who might bend the rules a bit? please PM me urgently

[Lizard2010]

That was an interesting session reading all the posts.

But theirs more he needs help with a Lawyer now.

Mmmmmmmm something must have gone wrong.

Maybe he new name has come up as being deceased.

He should not have let his ACE up the sleeve slip out.

I would have not spelled it all out till it happened and not have used the deceased name.

Should have used a different on in the forum post, IMHO.

[cardholder]

Many western countries don't permit outsiders to own land or have severe restrictions.

And if its racism, so what? What are you gonna do about it?

Could you name these 'many' Western countries.

And if it's racis what are you gonna do about it ?

I guess the niggers in Americas deep South were told the same. They didn't put up with the shit for too long, did they ?

[thomo]

Like it or not, the Thai people are entitled to restrict the ownership of Thai land as they wish. We farang are guests and we should respect Thai laws, again, like them or not.

Yes they are, and the're entitled to charge dual prices for Falangs and we should respect that as well

All will be changed as soon as any Thai can hop on a plane and get a visa on arrival, no questions asked into any Western country.

[cardholder]

can anyone recommend a Thai lawyer who might bend the rules a bit? please PM me urgently

This question should have been asked at post #1

[donx]

can anyone recommend a Thai lawyer who might bend the rules a bit? please PM me urgently

I take it things didn't go so well at the land office the other day.

Unfortunately you are asking for a lawyer that is willing to commit fraud. My guess is that even though you have a Thai name you don't have a Thai ID. Getting a Thai ID with your picture on it is going to take some doing. Unless you actually obtain Thai citizenship the legal route, even if you do find a lawyer willing to lie for you, if anyone ever finds out what happened both you and your lawyer could spend years in rent-free accomodations privided by the Thai government.

[johnnyk]

can anyone recommend a Thai lawyer who might bend the rules a bit? please PM me urgently

Open the BKK phone book to lawyers.

Throw a dart.

[johnnyk]

Many western countries don't permit outsiders to own land or have severe restrictions.

And if its racism, so what? What are you gonna do about it?

Could you name these 'many' Western countries.

And if it's racis what are you gonna do about it ?

I guess the niggers in Americas deep South were told the same. They didn't put up with the shit for too long, did they ?

Nice vocabulary, jerkoff. Now get back under your rock.

[basjke]

everything is working okay - going to register my land tommorrow - and I will own the lot legally

can anyone recommend a Thai lawyer who might bend the rules a bit? please PM me urgently

It is clearly visible that everything is working okay.

On a sidenote,doesn't the OP belong in the jokes forum?

[Naam]

i am going to register some land in the name of one of my dogs. he was born in Thailand, has Thai parents and therefore Thai citizenship (i think). i will change his pedigree name "Tiger" to "Somchai Pornthip Jatukamramthepnuananongtinsulaananda" albeit it might be difficult to fit his name on a chanote.

p.s. if the officer at the land department creates problems i will issue the command: "rip of his balls Tiger!"

[kenallday]

Many western countries don't permit outsiders to own land or have severe restrictions.

And if its racism, so what? What are you gonna do about it?

Could you name these 'many' Western countries.

And if it's racis what are you gonna do about it ?

I guess the niggers in Americas deep South were told the same. They didn't put up with the shit for too long, did they ?

I am sorted now all good, I realize I have bent the rules a bit however I am not a racist - your post is not very nice is it? All I have done is take on a new name spent a few honestly earned pounds and can live in a place I love -

[yabaaaa]

Many western countries don't permit outsiders to own land or have severe restrictions.

And if its racism, so what? What are you gonna do about it?

Could you name these 'many' Western countries.

And if it's racis what are you gonna do about it ?

I guess the niggers in Americas deep South were told the same. They didn't put up with the shit for too long, did they ?

I am sorted now all good, I realize I have bent the rules a bit however I am not a racist - your post is not very nice is it? All I have done is take on a new name spent a few honestly earned pounds and can live in a place I love -

Yeah we believe you........... honest

On top of all of that you havent told us how you did it therefore......................

Edited July 2, 2010 by yabaaaa

[johnnyk]

I have a Siamese cat. Does that count?

[yabaaaa]

I have a Siamese cat. Does that count?

Nah one big pussy to another

[kenallday]

Many western countries don't permit outsiders to own land or have severe restrictions.

And if its racism, so what? What are you gonna do about it?

Could you name these 'many' Western countries.

And if it's racis what are you gonna do about it ?

I guess the niggers in Americas deep South were told the same. They didn't put up with the shit for too long, did they ?

I am sorted now all good, I realize I have bent the rules a bit however I am not a racist - your post is not very nice is it? All I have done is take on a new name spent a few honestly earned pounds and can live in a place I love -

Yeah we believe you........... honest

On top of all of that you havent told us how you did it therefore......................

It was easy, I explained already I changed my name in UK and now own land here - they are to lazy to check up properly so I'm onto a winner. Clearly you are jealous so you criticize - why not do it yourself if you have the balls.

[mahjongguy]

..why not do it yourself if you have the balls.

It's not a matter of having balls. There are many things I might do if I were completely lacking common sense.

Personally I think this whole thing's a windup, but if you've actually done this I hope you'll bump the thread once a year or so and tell us that you're still enjoying your property rather than the government's hospitality at the Bangkok Hilton.

[yabaaaa]

It was easy, I explained already I changed my name in UK and now own land here - they are to lazy to check up properly so I'm onto a winner. Clearly you are jealous so you criticize - why not do it yourself if you have the balls.

No need got usufruct fully legal no comebacks off the govt...........good luck!! Total cost 100 odd baht.

[donx]

It was easy, I explained already I changed my name in UK and now own land here - they are to lazy to check up properly so I'm onto a winner. Clearly you are jealous so you criticize - why not do it yourself if you have the balls.

What you did is commit fraud. Fraud doesn't require "balls". It requires the absence of a moral compass.

In case you need an explanation why this was fraud - and for anyone else that may need an explanation here is how I see it. First it was perfectly legal for you to change your name. The fraud occured when you either didn't present a Thai ID card or you presented the Thai ID card of the deceased Thai at the land office. Unless you provided a Thai ID at the land office with your photo on it I don't see how what you did is not considered fraud.

There is some good news for you. After they put you in jail, they usually let out several inmates before their sentence is over on the King's Birthday. Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones.