Retirement Extension Of Stay After Expiration

[sim]

Please help... my retirement visa expired in 1st june 2010 and was stamped when my last enter till feb 2011, but I when out of thalland on the 7th june 2010 w/o having a re-entry permit( was thinking of doing it at the airport before leaving the country, unfortunately nolonger providing the services) now am given only 30days from my latest entry dated 18 june 2010. in this case, can I renew my visa for another year? please help...thks

[lopburi3]

Go to Immigration this week to obtain non immigrant visa entry for retirement extension of stay. You will need normal financial proof and pay an extra 2,000 baht for conversion. Once that is done they may immediately allow a normal 1,900 baht extension of stay or advise you to come back in 60 days to do. If upcountry you may have to do the non immigrant visa entry part in Bangkok.

If you do not have the money proof available travel to Vientiane at end of current 30 day entry to obtain a single entry non immigrant O visa and that will give you a new 90 day stay and time to transfer funds and have in account 2 months for a retirement extension of stay.

[sim]

Go to Immigration this week to obtain non immigrant visa entry for retirement extension of stay. You will need normal financial proof and pay an extra 2,000 baht for conversion. Once that is done they may immediately allow a normal 1,900 baht extension of stay or advise you to come back in 60 days to do. If upcountry you may have to do the non immigrant visa entry part in Bangkok.

If you do not have the money proof available travel to Vientiane at end of current 30 day entry to obtain a single entry non immigrant O visa and that will give you a new 90 day stay and time to transfer funds and have in account 2 months for a retirement extension of stay.

firstly, correct me if I am wrong that I pay B$2000 and get a 60Days conversion visa for doing the extension, if this is correct,

secondly, am I considered as no money proof if I can only have B$800000 in the Bank by this week. and lastly what if I need to go out of Thailand in about three week time(with-in my 30days given period) then in this case am I advised todo this one year extension after this coming trip?

A thousand thks to you in advance..

[lopburi3]

If you have the 800k in bank this week you can likely obtain the non immigrant conversion of a 90 day stay without money needing to be in account any period of time and then be able to complete the extension portion during the last 30 days (after 60 days of having the entry and after money has been in account required time).

If you would prefer to obtain the visa outside Thailand you would still do during the last 30 days of permitted to stay stamp and the money would have to be in account for 60 days at that time.

If you have 65k monthly income you could obtain Embassy letter of that and avoid the need for money in account or wait.

[sim]

If you have the 800k in bank this week you can likely obtain the non immigrant conversion of a 90 day stay without money needing to be in account any period of time and then be able to complete the extension portion during the last 30 days (after 60 days of having the entry and after money has been in account required time).

If you would prefer to obtain the visa outside Thailand you would still do during the last 30 days of permitted to stay stamp and the money would have to be in account for 60 days at that time.

If you have 65k monthly income you could obtain Embassy letter of that and avoid the need for money in account or wait.

allow me to conclude my understanding as follows;

I can do my retirement visa extension any time as long as I have the 800k in the bank for 60days at the time of my application( regardless of weather i am holding a 30days or 90days type of visa of stay at the time of application).

even if I bank in the $800k tomorrow and then travel in and out of the country(have 30days of stay on each entry to thailand...visa on arrival) till the $800k meet the 60days period in the bank and proceed to apply for the extension.

* please to know items to be prepared for the extension of an expired retirement visa.

thks

[lopburi3]

You normally make application during the last 30 days of permitted entry. You must be on a non immigrant visa entry. If you have the money a conversion to this can be made inside Thailand and likely would not require the money to be seasoned but if not you would have to want until it was to do the actual extension of stay (another and different step).

If you want to get the money ready this week you would then visit Immigration to convert. They will either accept or say no. I expect they will make the change and advise you to visit again after funds are in account 60 days to make the extension of stay.

[sim]

You normally make application during the last 30 days of permitted entry. You must be on a non immigrant visa entry. If you have the money a conversion to this can be made inside Thailand and likely would not require the money to be seasoned but if not you would have to want until it was to do the actual extension of stay (another and different step).

If you want to get the money ready this week you would then visit Immigration to convert. They will either accept or say no. I expect they will make the change and advise you to visit again after funds are in account 60 days to make the extension of stay.

I see your point now, but since I am going out of Thailand in three week time for 14days, my question is can I then start to do the conversion of visa and thereafter my extension when I am back from this coming trip, otherwise I will need a to do a re-entry permit(in order to maintain that non-imme. visa entry for doing my one year extension as you have mentioned)if I do my conversion this week( before my coming trip)?

thks and regards

[lopburi3]

If they provide the 90 day entry you could obtain a re-entry permit. But if you are leaving why not just obtain a non immigrant O visa (unless unable to obtain where you are travelling to) and return with that? Less cost as no re-entry permit would be required and less paperwork. Just transfer the money so 60-70 days after your return you can apply for the extension of stay.

[sim]

If they provide the 90 day entry you could obtain a re-entry permit. But if you are leaving why not just obtain a non immigrant O visa (unless unable to obtain where you are travelling to) and return with that? Less cost as no re-entry permit would be required and less paperwork. Just transfer the money so 60-70 days after your return you can apply for the extension of stay.

Dear Lopburi3, my sincere thanks to your speedy reponses, since my country to be visited is china. I think I might as well do the 90days here before I leave for china in three week time..

[sim]

I was there CW yesterday and shock to know that they need prove for the source of the 800k as foreign money as one of the requirement for the three month conversion visa, and as for renewal of the one year visa to be teated as a new application, req. 800k 90days in the bank and so on(more documents require). is that the norm? isnt it an extension of stay or applying for a new retirement visa? confuse AGAIN.

thanks

[sim]

If you have the 800k in bank this week you can likely obtain the non immigrant conversion of a 90 day stay without money needing to be in account any period of time and then be able to complete the extension portion during the last 30 days (after 60 days of having the entry and after money has been in account required time).

If you would prefer to obtain the visa outside Thailand you would still do during the last 30 days of permitted to stay stamp and the money would have to be in account for 60 days at that time.

If you have 65k monthly income you could obtain Embassy letter of that and avoid the need for money in account or wait.

my feed back...

"No you have to pay 2000baht for the 90days even you have the have the 800k in bank this week" said officer..and further must have prove of the 800k as foreign money.

[lopburi3]

You have to pay the 2,000 baht first - that is for conversion to a non immigrant visa entry which is required to obtain an extension of stay. Which is why I said it would not cost any more to obtain the visa from outside Thailand during your trip. You would have to pay that plus a re-entry permit for upcoming travel if doing now.

The money has been checked in the past and expect they are doing so again as there appears to be short term loans being made currently in false applications to just obtain the extra 90 day entry.

[sim]

You have to pay the 2,000 baht first - that is for conversion to a non immigrant visa entry which is required to obtain an extension of stay. Which is why I said it would not cost any more to obtain the visa from outside Thailand during your trip. You would have to pay that plus a re-entry permit for upcoming travel if doing now.

The money has been checked in the past and expect they are doing so again as there appears to be short term loans being made currently in false applications to just obtain the extra 90 day entry.

I see.. perhaps I have to tt money in if that's what they want, I now wonder what documents they actually need for the renewal part, are they consider my case as a new application? (forgotton to mention, I got reply by another officer when I return for another make up question, the later said that i need all documents as applying the new visa, please advice?)

[lopburi3]

You always require all documents for an extension of stay. That will be bank passbook and letter from bank of account balance and normal copies of your passport and visa plus departure card. You should also some proof of address and map to home. Your bank passbook should show deposits from outside Thailand or have bank provide copies of there wire receipts. TM.7 with 4x6cm photo taken within six months and 1,900 baht fee for the extension of stay. You will sign two short forms during application and have photo/index fingerprints taken electronically in Bangkok.

What you do not require in Thailand but did for the OA visa is medical certificate or police check paperwork.

[sim]

You always require all documents for an extension of stay. That will be bank passbook and letter from bank of account balance and normal copies of your passport and visa plus departure card. You should also some proof of address and map to home. Your bank passbook should show deposits from outside Thailand or have bank provide copies of there wire receipts. TM.7 with 4x6cm photo taken within six months and 1,900 baht fee for the extension of stay. You will sign two short forms during application and have photo/index fingerprints taken electronically in Bangkok.

What you do not require in Thailand but did for the OA visa is medical certificate or police check paperwork.

ok, looks like the only inconvenience for me is that even I already have the 800k here in the bank and for the sake of paper works, I therefore required to TT another 800baht into the bank in thaland to attest my sufficient to live in thailand. (but if I get the 90days elsewhere, I suppose I do not need that 800k prove from outside thailand etc?)

[lopburi3]

If the 800k came from outside Thailand you should be able to obtain paperwork to prove that. There is no requirement for a new 800k every year.

[sim]

If the 800k came from outside Thailand you should be able to obtain paperwork to prove that. There is no requirement for a new 800k every year.

You mean I need to show only the first extension year for the prove of the money coming from outside thailand, actually, that's my money just dont have that paper to show this one somehow, nevertheless, I would prefer not to tt again if it can be done outside country(90days) am I right?

[InterestedObserver]

Every time you get an extension of stay where there is a requirement to show funds in a Thai bank you are subject to being asked to prove where the money came from. You can produce foreign exchange or Thai tax documents as proof of origin. Asking is immigration's prerogative.