Homoeroticism In English Language Teaching

[The_Moog]

Have been doing some English language teaching and am concerned that nearly everyone in the teachers room is gay.

They largely keep their backdoor shenanigans to themselves, and whilst I don't fancy them (ghastly gossiping simpering Farangs,) and they don't fancy me, (ghastly gossiping Farang), I am concerned that English language teaching has this effect. Its a gay-dominated industry, and rightly so.

Eg: bizarre role-playing dialogues with ageing business men about where we should go on holiday together this year.

As a man's man, perhaps I should find a different line of work?

MOOG.

[PvtDick]

Perhaps you should just find a life...

[dlfisher]

You put that much thought into it, you probably are 'gay' and just fearing the transition. Give into it, dude. Head over to Pat Pong, ride the wave and be happy. After all, this is Thailand.

[The_Moog]

If perchance I were gay, I don't think i'd go for an expat language teacher.

Whatever possesses Thai boys to acquiesce to these creatures? (It certainly can't be the size of their pay packets, they're all paupers).

I know what you're going to say next.....

[PvtDick]

No great loss to the academic world should you decide not to teach. I'm sure most people would rather have their kids taught by a homosexual than a bigot, anyway.

[Guest IT Manager]

Oh PvtDick.. that was uncalled for.. LOL.. yes it was.

[The_Moog]

Dick - you win - I submit !

MOOG

[dr_Pat_Pong]

It certainly can't be the size of their xxxxxx

I know what you're going to say next.....

Were you right dear Moog ? .

[The_Moog]

No, he didn't say what I expected him to......

I never did get an answer though to my question, which is why homos seem to be particularly well suited for English Language teaching. I suspect its something to do with the theatrics required to enliven a lesson.

[fred110]

I never did get an answer though to my question, which is why homos seem to be particularly well suited for English Language teaching. I suspect its something to do with the theatrics required to enliven a lesson.

Probably because teaching gives them access to young men. They can trade 'tutoring' for sex?

[PvtDick]

Oh, for God's sakes what absolute bigoted, narrow-minded drivel.

Language classes contain an approximately equal number of female and male students, so they should be no more attractive to gay teachers looking to knock off boys as to straight teachers looking to knock off girls. Besides, both boys and girls are so easily procured for sex in Bangkok that neither gays nor straights need to teach English in order to gain "access" to them.

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that most teachers -- gay or straight -- are teaching because they enjoy it, without any ulterior motives? Or are gay teachers immediately suspect while straight ones are not?

[francois]

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that most teachers -- gay or straight -- are teaching because they enjoy it, without any ulterior motives? Or are gay teachers immediately suspect while straight ones are not?

suspiscion and untolerance are going together well

[The_Moog]

Dick,

We're gradually getting there, but, why is the proportion of gays in English teaching proportionately more than in other professions in Bkk?

As to Fred's point....that they're scouting for man:boy-love..........possibly, but my gut feel is 'no'. (What do others think?)

However, last week a couple of fresh boys came into my school. One teacher said he thought they looked "a bit faggoty", and that "if 'Teacher X' wasn't given the job of handling them, he'd get into a primadonna tizzy with the Head Teacher".

[Guest IT Manager]

I never did get an answer though to my question, which is why homos seem to be particularly well suited for English Language teaching. I suspect its something to do with the theatrics required to enliven a lesson.

Probably because teaching gives them access to young men. They can trade 'tutoring' for sex?

Fred, you are obviously new, so let's just assume you have a few friends now, who don't know you on the board.

After a while you get a reputation, perhaps as a bigot, more likely as a fool. As you post more, you expose yourself to more criticism from people with the capacity to think, rather than stagger out of the gutter in the AM (morning), and proceed to pass judgement on all and sundry.

My wife just told me she was quite taken aback by your comment and asked if I thought you lived in LoS. Short answer is no, I don't think you do, but perhaps when you grow up, you may come here and enjoy it, without looking at every single male teacher and wonder whether he bonked a student last night. (male or female).

One thing my wife who is Aussie said, that in her time as a teacher, the ones who were most likely to boff students were the local teachers, and on one occasion when a student came on to a teacher, the teacher ( a foreigner) came to her and asked her to explain to the student, that teachers do not generally bonk students as it is against their ethics in most cases. In the cases where it wasn't, they weren't techers, they were trash in the gutter in the morning, and the students less than successful, at much else but Khai Tuwa. (sic).

Gay people probably teach because it is an adjunct to helping. Have a look at the male staff in hospitals for example. Not always gay, but crtainly the best male nurses are.

Theatrics work in class and that is certainly true in LoS. As to the "access" issue. Bullshit. You are unlikely to enjoy your time here, if that is as far as your mind can stretch.

2 out of 10 for smart. 1 out of 10 for expression. 10 out of 10 for crass.

[Guest IT Manager]

Dick,

We're gradually getting there, but, why is the proportion of gays in English teaching proportionately more than in other professions in Bkk?

As to Fred's point....that they're scouting for man:boy-love..........possibly, but my gut feel is 'no'. (What do others think?)

However, last week a couple of fresh boys came into my school. One teacher said he thought they looked "a bit faggoty", and that "if 'Teacher X' wasn't given the job of handling them, he'd get into a primadonna tizzy with the Head Teacher".

Just for interest.. were the comments emanating from foreign teachers. And is teacher "x" Thai.

[KevinN]

Pobly cause more teaching jobs are filled by women the world over,so it stands to reason that a lot of persons of a homosexual persuasion are doing it,Just like was said,Male nurses are mostly persons of a homosexual persuasion for the same reason,that is basicly a female job..

And you have got to watch those that call you BIGOT this and BIGOT that cause they are generally persons of a homosexual persuasion also.

BIGOT and RACIST are two words that are always foremost in the vocabulary of the pot calling the kettle black.

Edited November 29, 2003 by IT Manager

[The_Moog]

Yes, 'Teacher X' is a farang. The other teachers discussing it were farang also.

One has to understand it does get EXTREMELY boring in the teacher's room in the hours we sit (unpaid) there waiting for the next student.

Hence the preponderance of banal subjects, as in 'are gay teachers hogging the boy-students?'

Amusingly, the hetty teachers are incredibly bitchy and gossipy.

[Guest IT Manager]

Is it the considered opinion of the staff that teacher "X" is dallying with the aforementioned students? If so, why? Is it acceptable to the "hetty" gang? To you? If so, what is the line taken on the gay teacher by the other teachers, or do they laugh at his peccadillos?

[PvtDick]

Pobly cause more teaching jobs are filled by women the world over,so it stands to reason that a lot of queers are doing it,Just like was said,Male nurses are mostly queer for the same reason,that is basicly a female job..

And you have got to watch those that call you BIGOT this and BIGOT that cause they are generally queer also.

BIGOT and RACIST are two words that are always foremost in the vocabulary of the pot calling the kettle black.

This has got to be one of the all-time dumbest, most illogical posts I've ever read. Wherever you are, I hope you aren't in the sphere of influence of any children.

[The_Moog]

Nobody's doing any trysting or dallying or courting (yet). The students are new. So they will get alloted a teacher. What is being said is.

"Ooh, 'ave you seen the new pupils?"

"Mmm, aren't they scrummy."

"Hope I get them to teach, I'll correct their syntax"

"Ooh, you saucy bitch."

"Bet 'Teacher X' has a hissy fit if he doesn't get assigned to them."

"Too right ducky. He'd want to get his thumbs round their plums."

(....and now for the punchline)

....so much then for the hetty teachers, dunno what the gay teachers say.

MOOG

[surin]

Is it beyond the realm of possibility that most teachers -- gay or straight -- are teaching because they enjoy it, without any ulterior motives? Or are gay teachers immediately suspect while straight ones are not?

suspiscion and untolerance are going together well

Francois...You're not an English teacher are You?

[wilson steer]

It is probably impossible to 'catch' being gay, although I am certain many straight men have had a 'gay' sexual encounter. The language schools across Thailand probably have their fair share of gay staff, so what? In this day and age it does not even make most people blink. Perhaps the original poster ® of this thread has a larger than normal percentage of gay men working at his school, this is unimportant, surely Mr Moog, you have been foolish in posting this thread. Maybe you should change language school or perfect playing your Moog, (I'm sure that is some kind of keyboard?).

[chonabot]

Ah the Mini Moog.....

[The_Moog]

There is one hetty teacher at the school. A handsome, married fellow, who is giving some thought and analysis to whether he should change to be a gay. Perhaps it is peer group pressure, or perhaps a certain group would inevitably say;

'no he was always a gay, and this is just bringing it to the forefront'.

I agree with those who say that teaching is a caring profession and that is why it is apt for them. (I don't agree that its a boy-hunt). However, explain then the Robert Mapplethorpe photographs of gentlemen fisting each other. That is not too caring, it is also unhygienic in the teachers' common room. It also doesn't explain why Katoeys are about as loud and lary and raucous as the most masculine hetty.

Katoeys though are for a different topic on another day, and I daresay one that would be instantly moderated.

MOOG

[francois]

Francois...You're not an English teacher are You?

not a teacher, neither gay ...

just a unix geek, definitly not the best choice to make money here

[surin]

Francois...You're not an English teacher are You?

not a teacher, neither gay ...

just a unix geek, definitly not the best choice to make money here

Sorry Francois...didn't think you were gay!!!...I meant (I hoped) you weren't an English teacher....because of the way you spelt!!

[Nat]

It is probably impossible to 'catch' being gay

I heard it was contagious make sure one doesn't sneeze on you

The_Moog your staff room sounds like it's full of gossiping women .

Quite a bit of generalisation going on in here. In all the times I've been to thialand I have met more straight male teachers than gay ones. Actually, as far as I'm aware there are no gay teachers at my school. In regards to theatrics in the classroom, think they are necessary esp when teaching children. Students need to be motivated to learn and the motivation not only comes from them, but from the teacher. Theatrics are a great way to get the children going and most teachers that use them have the personality to pull them off (no pun intended). So wouldn't bring it down to sexual preference.

[maniac_bkk]

It is probably impossible to 'catch' being gay, although I am certain many straight men have had a 'gay' sexual encounter. The language schools across Thailand probably have their fair share of gay staff, so what? In this day and age it does not even make most people blink. Perhaps the original poster ® of this thread has a larger than normal percentage of gay men working at his school, this is unimportant, surely Mr Moog, you have been foolish in posting this thread. Maybe you should change language school or perfect playing your Moog

ITS A WELL KNOW FACT, EVERYMAN HAS GAY THOUGHTS, SAME AS ALL WOMEN. WE ARE WHO WE ARE.

[KevinN]

pvtDICK, In fact I am, I teach physical education at 2 universities and 1 secondary school.

[PvtDick]

pvtDICK, In fact I am, I teach physical education at 2 universities and 1 secondary school.

Well, you know what they say..."those who can do, do; those who can't do, teach; those who can't teach, teach PE". As long as you're not teaching ethics, morals, political science, or anything else that takes a brain, that's fine with me.