Just How Much Msg Do The Pizza Company Use?

[smokie36]

dude..

som nam na for ordering pizza hut...

Basilico? Bella Napoli? Big Pizza? Scoozi Pizza? Pizza Mania? Mafiosi Pizza? Pizza Patio?

Just a few you should try before giving up on pizza in bangkok!

The voice of reason and sanity.

[NanaFoods]

If you don't believe me UG, try eating a tablespoon of the stuff with one meal, and let us know what you experience.

Who would use anywhere near that amount on one meal? Try eating a tablespoon of table salt. One needs to use common sense.

I can certainly understand your reservations. Well, you could try 1-Tb over the course of a day. Or perhaps try a teaspoon in one meal at first, then work your way up until you notice something. There is about 1-tsp of salt in a large bag of potato chips, which I can consume no problem, other than getting a little thirsty. And I believe there must have been at least that much MSG in my soup at the wedding. Both my wife and I were effected, and we both never had any issues with MSG prior.

As for "sensitivity" issue, sure some people are probably psychosomatic about it.

But everyone? Be careful about sweeping statements - a common logical fallacy.

Like I said in another thread, I used to belong to your camp, until I experienced the effects first hand.

I now know it is possible to OD on the stuff, and the experience is nothing remotely similar to a salt overload.

[Ulysses G.]

As for "sensitivity" issue, sure some people are probably psychosomatic about it.

But everyone? Be careful about sweeping statements - a common logical fallacy.

So is misquoting people.

The studies are pretty conclusive that not many people are affected. However, I did say, "A very few people are sensitive to it".

[NanaFoods]

As for "sensitivity" issue, sure some people are probably psychosomatic about it.

But everyone? Be careful about sweeping statements - a common logical fallacy.

So is misquoting people.

The studies are pretty conclusive that not many people are affected. However, I did say, "A very few people are sensitive to it".

Where dis I misquote you?

You didn't even bring up the psychosomatic issue in the above.

I was referring to Benjie's statement:

"But Scientists have already done these tests, covering the food of people who are 'MSG sensitive' with MSG with absolutely no discernable effects. Seems that 'MSG sensitive' people are only sensitive when they believe the food to contain MSG, regardless of the actual MSG content."

[xen]

But Scientists have already done these tests, covering the food of people who are 'MSG sensitive' with MSG with absolutely no discernable effects. Seems that 'MSG sensitive' people are only sensitive when they believe the food to contain MSG, regardless of the actual MSG content.

Instead of scientific studies being conclusive that there are no discemable effects , I would suggest that the scientific and medical community are still debating the effects just as we are. The way i see it if you want to consume it , then go ahead but give me the choice wether i want to consume it. A good cook/chef does not need it and most good resturants in the Australia and i would guess else where in the western world do not use MSG. Apart fromthe threat of litigation , it is just bad for business especially if your are targeting the more health conscious clientel and the restaurants i have been involved with do not use it. It is just part of a good business strategy like providing a menu catering for vegetarians or diabetics.A lot of the top restaurants here in BKK do likewise.

Part of the problem with MSG is that it is very rarely a measured amount. Watch a asian cook at work and it is a corner of a spatchel of sugar, a scoop of oil, a scoop of meat.,a hanful of vegetables thrown into the wok.. It is never a percise , measured amount . It is all part of the artistry of asian cooking ! So the amount of MSG will also vary from dish to dish and tolerance amount vary from consumer to consumer. Then there are also the sauces and additives that contain MSG. Maggi seasoning sauce is almost liguid MSG. There are so many varibles . Does MSG react diffently with combinations of other foods / chemicals ? I don't know . But i do know that it affects me adversly everytime i have it in food and i choose not consume it.

Posts about MSG have been on TV for years and in the end it always end up as a stalemate. . It comes down to choice. I always request no added MSG and no suger when i order food. I expect my request to be respected and if it can't then it should be advised that the food contains MSG so then i can make my choice to consume. I very rarely have any problems then.

[Ulysses G.]

I was referring to Benjie's statement:

Sorry, I thought your post was addressed to me as you quoted me above it. :jap:

[hungryhippo]

Some people are so sensitive to MSG that all you have to do it mention it and they get all the symptoms.

Indeed, these are the same nuts that believe in WiFi radiation and mobile phones give you cancer. Unless someone provides more then anecdotal evidence there's really no point in saying "had a pizza, got a headache, must have been the MSG".

[Benjie]

If you don't believe me UG, try eating a tablespoon of the stuff with one meal, and let us know what you experience.

Who would use anywhere near that amount on one meal? Try eating a tablespoon of table salt. One needs to use common sense.

I can certainly understand your reservations. Well, you could try 1-Tb over the course of a day. Or perhaps try a teaspoon in one meal at first, then work your way up until you notice something. There is about 1-tsp of salt in a large bag of potato chips, which I can consume no problem, other than getting a little thirsty. And I believe there must have been at least that much MSG in my soup at the wedding. Both my wife and I were effected, and we both never had any issues with MSG prior.

As for "sensitivity" issue, sure some people are probably psychosomatic about it.

But everyone? Be careful about sweeping statements - a common logical fallacy.

Like I said in another thread, I used to belong to your camp, until I experienced the effects first hand.

I now know it is possible to OD on the stuff, and the experience is nothing remotely similar to a salt overload.

You think the average packet of crisps has 4-5 grams of salt?! Walkers Salt and Vinegar crisps have less than 10% of that amount.

How do you know it was MSG in the soup and not bacteria, rotten food or something else?

Talk about sweeping statements.

I'd quite happily eat a teaspoon of it if someone from the opposite side of the argument were to eat a teaspoon of salt.

[NanaFoods]

You think the average packet of crisps has 4-5 grams of salt?! Walkers Salt and Vinegar crisps have less than 10% of that amount.

Now I didn't say that now did I? Strawman argument.

I said a LARGE bag of chips. Walkers?? Never heard of them.

16oz bag of BBQ or Onion flavored Lay's has about 3.5g; Kettle Cooked over 4 grams.

And yes, I can eat a whole bag or either in one sitting... just need a few beers to go with it.

Follow that up with few pieces of pizza (say, double pepperoni or sausage & pepperoni) and we're around 5g.

Been done on many occasions personally, and I would bet many here have done the same at some point.

How do you know it was MSG in the soup and not bacteria, rotten food or something else?

Oh, please!! Not difficult to know the difference.

We were not sick to our stomachs nor had diarrhea, but had really weird feelings and extreme thirst.

That and a funky taste in our mouths that lasted through the next morning.

Talk about sweeping statements.

How is that a sweeping statement?

You need to learn the meaning.

I'd quite happily eat a teaspoon of it if someone from the opposite side of the argument were to eat a teaspoon of salt.

Already been done.

Your turn.