Questions About Master Degree And Work In Thailand

[fanta rood]

Hello,

This might be a strange question but still... I am about to go to the university, but I am still deciding what study I should follow. What I was looking for is a study that guarantees me that I will find work in Thailand.

My plan is to get my master degree in 5-6 years then start working in Thailand straight ahead. I will eventually want to get one of these masters:

-Biophysics and Physics of Complex Systems

-Biochemical Engineering

-Chemical Engineering

-Life Science & Technology

-BioMedical Engineering

-Mechanical Engineering

I have not decided wich one I want to get, but if I can get my master degree in Thailand that would be alot better

My questions are:

1. will I be able to find work with one of these studies?

2. wich (of the above) master degree would give me the most chances of work? Wich one guarantees a future for me?

3. will I be able to go to Thai university for my master directly with a european bachelor degree in chemistry, physics or mathematics?

4. what study do you guys recommend? Economics, Laws, Psychology etc etc is not an option. It has to be something in Chemistry, Physics or Math.

5. what study is popular right now in Thailand (excluding English)? Wich one is in high demand?

Thank you,

[SK1972]

NOTHING is guaranteed in life. That's reality for you.

No one can predict what will happen in 5-6 years time. Take for example, when there was a demand for IT specialist, everyone took the course. At the end of 4-5 years, there was a huge overflow of IT specialist. The good ones managed to secure employment, the others had a difficult time getting employment. Why? No more IT jobs and non-IT employers did not want them.

I would say do what you like best and enjoy. Why Thailand? Why not somewhere else?

[Indo-Siam]

Take any Masters program you want - and you are probably guaranteed to get a job as an English language teacher.

Teaching English is about the only guranteed job opening here. And - most schools will not hold it against you that you have a Masters degree. Some might even prefer you - because your credentials will look good in their presentation to parents.

You fail to state your case this way, but what you probably mean to say is:

"I want to get a high-paying, secure job in Thailand. I want to make XX0,000 baht per month. I think that if I get Masters degree from a Thai university, this will help me get such a job. So, which discipline will give me the best likelihood of achieving my goal?"

The answer is - you probably aren't going to achieve your goal. Thai companies will pay you the same as your Thai classmates - and few Thais with freshly minted Masters degrees make more than 35-40,000 baht per month - if even that much. Multi-national companies will not be impresed with a Masters degree from a Thai university.

If - five years from now - you want to be making maximum earnings in Thailand, don't go to Masters program - go to a good TOEFL course, and then gain a few years teaching experience. A really good English language teacher at a top school here will make 2-3 times the salary of a freshly minted Masters degree holder, from a Thai university.

A Masters degree from a Thai university is not a particularly strong piece of paper - it might give your resume a 20% boost in value to some Thai employers. A similar degree from a good Western University might be worth 30% boost in value. But - if you are a shallow person with poor people skills, and little real-world experience, the degree isn't going to get you much.

Frankly, the way you posed your question suggests that you are a relatively unimpressive person who hopes that a "generic" Masters degree in something - you don't eveen care what that something is - is going to suddenly give you some value to others. 'Sorry guy - if you are a "nobody" without a degree now, all you will be later is a "nobody" with a degree.

Good luck!

Steve

Indo-Siam

[Curt]

You need to find what companies in your home country will hire for work in Thailand.

Your only real hope would be an off shore company.

Any domestic jobs in your fields of interest would be filled by a Thai national.

[h90]

people who are good at chemical things will be always needed, as well as mechanical engineering. Usually you are with technical jobs on the saver side (not get hired and fired that fast), but on the lower salary in compare with economic jobs.

(Masterdegree Food-and Biotechnologie)

Hello,

This might be a strange question but still... I am about to go to the university, but I am still deciding what study I should follow. What I was looking for is a study that guarantees me that I will find work in Thailand.

My plan is to get my master degree in 5-6 years then start working in Thailand straight ahead. I will eventually want to get one of these masters:

-Biophysics and Physics of Complex Systems

-Biochemical Engineering

-Chemical Engineering

-Life Science & Technology

-BioMedical Engineering

-Mechanical Engineering

I have not decided wich one I want to get, but if I can get my master degree in Thailand that would be alot better

My questions are:

1. will I be able to find work with one of these studies?

2. wich (of the above) master degree would give me the most chances of work? Wich one guarantees a future for me?

3. will I be able to go to Thai university for my master directly with a european bachelor degree in chemistry, physics or mathematics?

4. what study do you guys recommend? Economics, Laws, Psychology etc etc is not an option. It has to be something in Chemistry, Physics or Math.

5. what study is popular right now in Thailand (excluding English)? Wich one is in high demand?

Thank you,

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[chownah]

...................................

My questions are:

1. will I be able to find work with one of these studies?

2. wich (of the above) master degree would give me the most chances of work? Wich one guarantees a future for me?

3. will I be able to go to Thai university for my master directly with a european bachelor degree in chemistry, physics or mathematics?

4. what study do you guys recommend? Economics, Laws, Psychology etc etc is not an option. It has to be something in Chemistry, Physics or Math.

5. what study is popular right now in Thailand (excluding English)? Wich one is in high demand?

Thank you,

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Other posts have answered questions 1. and 2.

3. Do you have all three of these degrees or are you still undergraduate and haven't decided yet on your bachelors? If you are undergrad and still don't know what field your bachelors will be in then its too earlly to be thinking about what your masters will be. One of the reasons for getting a bachelors is that in the process you might discover the path you want to follow later in school. Or are you still in high school?

4. This is like asking what flavor of ice cream would we recommend.

5. Study is not popular in Thailand. I know it is not popular with most students everywhere woldwide but it is especially unpopular in Thailand.

[uncle paul]

i know thai graduates in the bio technology field that earn 12000 a month (170 gbp ish),

i have a friend with a phd from university college london who earns 25000 a month as a university lecturer. i have another friend who has a masters in computer technology who earns 30,000 a month as a university lecturer and another 4-500,000 a year doing private projects for the government etc.

you aint going to make a lot of money in thailand unless you are very lucky or have the right contacts.

to stand more of a chance you should speak and write thai fluently

[fanta rood]

You fail to state your case this way, but what you probably mean to say is:

"I want to get a high-paying, secure job in Thailand.  I want to make XX0,000 baht per month.  I think that if I get  Masters degree from a Thai university, this will help me get such a job.  So, which discipline will give me the best likelihood of achieving my goal?"

The answer is - you probably aren't going to achieve your goal.  Thai companies will pay you the same as your Thai classmates - and few Thais with freshly minted Masters degrees make more than 35-40,000 baht per month - if even that much.  Multi-national companies will not be impresed with a Masters degree from a Thai university. 

If - five years from now - you want to be making maximum earnings in Thailand, don't go to Masters program - go to a good TOEFL course, and then gain a few years teaching experience.  A really good English language teacher at a top school here will make 2-3 times the salary of a freshly minted Masters degree holder, from a Thai university.

A Masters degree from a Thai university is not a particularly strong piece of paper - it might give your resume a 20% boost in value to some Thai employers.  A similar degree from a good Western University might be worth 30% boost in value.  But - if you are a shallow person with poor people skills, and little real-world experience, the degree isn't going to get you much.

Good luck!

Steve

Indo-Siam

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I adjusted that statement alittle bit:

"I want to get a secure job in Thailand. I want to make a decent living per month. I think that if I get a Masters degree from any university, this will help me increase the chances of getting such a job. So, what do you guys recommend?"

A doctor will roughly earn 50k baht per month at a goverment hospital. Probaly triple that amount a commercial hospital. Also when I read the Bangkok Post, I saw advertisements for jobs wich pay you 50k-100k baht per month (is this for foreign people, thai or both?). I really didn't pay attention at the time so I can't remember it very clearly though. Maybe I'm alittle bit naive but 50k+ on any average job sounds nice. It can't be that bad. But this isn't about money. As long as I have a secure future in Thailand, then I'm happy. Also I'm aware that anything can change in 5-6 years. That's why I was asking about the present situation.

Frankly, the way you posed your question suggests that you are a relatively unimpressive person who hopes that a "generic" Masters degree in something - you don't eveen care what that something is - is going to suddenly give you some value to others.  'Sorry guy - if you are a "nobody" without a degree now, all you will be later is a "nobody" with a degree. 

No not at all. I was asking about what you guys recommend and what jobs are in high demand in Thailand. I asked for opinions just like I asked my brother, mother, school etc etc for opinions. Sure I don't want to do just any master program, I want to do it in the subjects I'm interested in and think I'll have fun with it. But at the same time I don't want to study 5-6 years and end up being jobless. If I wanted absolutely a 100% secure job, I would indeed do an English study. But I don't. If I didn't have roots in Thailand chances are I would be asking the same questions on any other forum. I'm still orientating. I know that you need a little bit more then just a master degree, like luck and social skills. I am a nobody now, but with a master I can get far. Look at all the rich people going to Harvard, Cambridge, Princeton etc etc. They are guaranteed to work despite having no talent or motivation at all.

3. Do you have all three of these degrees or are you still undergraduate and haven't decided yet on your bachelors? If you are undergrad and still don't know what field your bachelors will be in then its too earlly to be thinking about what your masters will be. One of the reasons for getting a bachelors is that in the process you might discover the path you want to follow later in school. Or are you still in high school?

4. This is like asking what flavor of ice cream would we recommend.

5. Study is not popular in Thailand. I know it is not popular with most students everywhere woldwide but it is especially unpopular in Thailand.

3. I'm fresh out of high school. I need to apply for university this month. But I'm a person that looks at his masters first before deciding what bachelor he wants to follow, maybe its a little bit strange. If anything fails I still have 1 more year to decide what I really want to do.

4. And that's exactly what I want to hear. =)

You need to find what companies in your home country will hire for work in Thailand.

Your only real hope would be an off shore company.

Any domestic jobs in your fields of interest would be filled by a Thai national.

Off shore company will give me a better salary and options, but what are the chances of me getting such a job. Domestic jobs? No problem.

[sadman]

I am a nobody now, but with a master I can get far. Look at all the rich people going to Harvard, Cambridge, Princeton etc etc. They are guaranteed to work despite having no talent or motivation at all.

I beg to differ. You can be a nobody without a master's or a nobody with one - the master's is not the deciding factor. Rich people who go to Princeton etc (or Oxbridge in the UK) are unlikely to have simply bought their way in - they need to show some level of intellect. But the truth is, really well-connected people will be placed in great jobs irrespective of qualifications. Most people rely on personal qualities and then qualifications.

I'm fresh out of high school. I need to apply for university this month. But I'm a person that looks at his masters first before deciding what bachelor he wants to follow, maybe its a little bit strange. If anything fails I still have 1 more year to decide what I really want to do.

Do what you WANT to do. Things change, and many degrees have a shelf-life anyway. Enjoy it, rather than thinking "when I get xyz, I'll be a success". Many employers put as much store by your personal qualities as by qualifications. I do - and I am an employer and have 2 master's degrees.

Edited August 19, 2005 by sadman

[sadman]

Rich people who go to Princeton etc (or Oxbridge in the UK) are unlikely to have simply bought their way in.

Sorry, forgot to mention - those people who just buy their way in don't (unless they are future kings etc) do so as undergraduates. They almost always get there sponsored by their employers, who pay a fortune for it. What this shows is obvious: if your personal qualities are outstanding, you can get a job without a master's, with a company who choose to invest in you by enabling you to get one. The master's doesn't get the job - YOU do.

Also, you would have to prove to the company that a) you are worth the expense, and that it is a good business investment for them.

[x-pat]

Regarding your questions:

1. Probably you can find work in Thailand in any of these fields. There is a constant lack of supply of good engineers and technologists. However, the salaries you can achieve, especially at the entry level, won't be very exciting.

2. Hard to say. Take a look at the industries and their development over the past few years for a better picture.

3. Generally yes, although there may be some paper work. IMO it would be better to graduate abroad, though, since Thai employers consider European or American degrees superior (not without reason!).

4. Only you can answer this question. Study that which are good at. If you are good at all subjects, study what you like most. If you like all subjects the same, study those subjects where the most beautiful girls are enrolled.

5. MBA and other business-related studies are very popular here.

Cheers, X-Pat

Ah, forgot to mention: The common wisdom that there are no guarantees in life certainly includes master degrees as job entry tickets. As a former employer I have never really looked that much at degrees, but always at the person. In most cases, a Thai university graduate is unusable for a real-world job and must learn 90% of the skills on the job.

Edited August 19, 2005 by x-pat

[chownah]

I've thought about this a bit more and if I had just graduated form high school and was sure that I wanted to work in Thailand in a technical field like the ones the OP has listed (its hard for me to imagine that I would be so certain at that stage of my life) then I think that I would attend the best school I could get into in the US and the first year take heavy mathematics and a variety of science courses....the math will be useful for all of the list as will the first year of chem, phys, and bio. During my first year I would be making contacts with people in Thailand who are attending university or teaching at university...esp. research universities. I'd try to make a guess at what will sell well in Thailand and then I would work my fanny off and go all the way through the doctorate. The doctorate will open doors for you in research and it is probably more likely that you could get work in research at a university more easily than in industry with a masters in Thailand...I don't think there are or will be many jobs in bio physics or bio engineering in Thailand but universities may have research positions available. The masters degrees would only qualify you for jobs in industry and all of the jobs in industry can be done by Thai people so they wouldn't be hiring foreigners to fill them. The key to finding a technical job in Thailand is to find a niche that no Thai person can fill....be a specialist in some field...this means Phd. So may answer is to get a Phd in the US and become a star in some specialized field. This is all only my opinion and I have neither a masters degree nor a Phd.

[siamsam]

......................or a ruler

[sadman]

...was sure that I wanted to work in Thailand in a technical field like the ones the OP has listed

...I would attend the best school I could get into in the US

...I would be making contacts with people in Thailand

...I would work my fanny off

...find a niche that no Thai person can fill

Chownah, you don't need a master's or a doctorate to make the excellent points I have highlighted.

[sadman]

I would attend the best school I could get into in the US and the first year take heavy mathematics

I think that a European degree would do just as well - although hard sums is a bit much for me. I'm a good spellist, though.

[fanta rood]

During my first year I would be making contacts with people in Thailand who are attending university or teaching at university...esp. research universities.  I'd try to make a guess at what will sell well in Thailand and then I would work my fanny off and go all the way through the doctorate.  The doctorate will open doors for you in research and it is probably more likely that you could get work in research at a university more easily than in industry with a masters in Thailand...I don't think there are or will be many  jobs in bio physics or bio engineering in Thailand but universities may have research positions available.  The masters degrees would only qualify you for jobs in industry and all of the jobs in industry can be done by Thai people so they wouldn't be hiring foreigners to fill them.  The key to finding a technical job in Thailand is to find a niche that no Thai person can fill....be a specialist in some field...this means Phd.  So may answer is to get a Phd in the US and become a star in some specialized field.  This is all only my opinion and I have neither a masters degree nor a Phd.

Why? Why won't they hire foreign people? If a multinational company has 2 applicants:

- One has a thai master degree, speaks/write fluently thai/english and nothing else.

- The other one has western master degree, speaks/writes fluently english/dutch/thai, speaks/writes good french/german/latin/ancient greek.

This is alittle bit simplified but even then I think there is no competition.

I've thought about this a bit more and if I had just graduated form high school and was sure that I wanted to work in Thailand in a technical field like the ones the OP has listed (its hard for me to imagine that I would be so certain at that stage of my life) then I think that I would attend the best school I could get into in the US and the first year take heavy mathematics and a variety of science courses....the math will be useful for all of the list as will the first year of chem, phys, and bio.

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I have had this thought along time and it was only confirmed last holiday when I was in Thailand. I am confused though. I cannot make this decision at this stage of my life, but I can decide my study? Something that will change my whole life and the rest of my carreer? But like the moral of this thread: nothing is guaranteed in life. So who knows?

I know I lack life experience. I am young, ignorant and naive. That's why I come to this forum to ask older experienced people about this.

[fanta rood]

UUp! Thank you guys for the advice so far. But I would like to know a little bit more.

1. How do foreign people work in BKK? Are they only hiring English teachers? Are foreign people working in Thailand only teachers or people working at a multinational and got sent to thailand? I would like to know about the foreigns working in Thailand right now. Salary, colleagues, work pressure, qualifications, working times, details...

2. What about researchers, managers or the basic jobs that thai people do? Chances?

3. How about if I want to start my own company there what will happen? What must I do? How? Costs? Chances? Place?

4. What jobs advertisements are there in today's Bangkok Post? Job title, what degree and what salary?

5. What "higher educated" job advertisements are there in any Thai newspaper? Again what job title, what degree and what salary?

6. more advice for someone that wants to move to Thailand after his studies ofcourse is always welcome.

Thank you for your time.

[think_too_mut]

1. How do foreign people work in BKK? Are they only hiring English teachers? Are foreign people working in Thailand only teachers or people working at a multinational and got sent to thailand? I would like to know about the foreigns working in Thailand right now. Salary, colleagues, work pressure, qualifications, working times, details...

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I saw a farang working for a mutinatioinal company once. He was fluent in Thai, at least he sounded while he was talking to his coworker.

The company was Lotus/Tesco and he was on the box stacking job in the On Nut supermarket.

[fanta rood]

Up for one last time. I am disappointed about how much reactions I got so far.

But it only confirms my suspicions about foreigners in Thailand. Alot more after reading alot of other topics here.

[think_too_mut]

Up for one last time. I am disappointed about how much reactions I got so far.

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Are you? Me too.

[fanta rood]

I lack social skills and knowledge about this forum. So I can't tell if that's sarcasm

[sadman]

But it only confirms my suspicions about foreigners in Thailand. Alot more after reading alot of other topics here.

I'm not really sure what you mean by this, but I think it means one of the following:

1. Falang have a tough time getting highly paid jobs. True.

2. A recent high school graduate is not particularly marketable here. True.

3. The contributors to ThaiVisa will give you a warts-and-all overview of your prospects. True.

4. A master's degree is not the deciding factor in whether or not you get a good job. True.

5. A Thai master's degree isn't the most highly regarded around. True.

6. The ThaiVisa people are cynics who just want to knock you down. Untrue - you have been given a very gentle ride. Try your approach with any successful British or American company and see the feedback you get - if they even talk to you.

7. Farang working in LOS are just pulling up the drawbridge, having taken all the good jobs for themselves. Untrue - find out how well many farang (including graduates) actually do.

In the nicest sense (no sarcasm), the world is full of recent high school graduates with high hopes and unrealistic expectations. This does NOT mean that you shouldn't work at it, however. A 'here I am, come and get me' attitude simply doesn't work. The truth is, no matter how good you are, you need life experience, interpersonal skills and social skills, as well as academic qualifications.

You'll pick these up quicker than you think, but life's too short not to concentrate on enjoying life. Get your work/life balance right and enjoy life.

[bina]

just curious, but, why thailand??? i mean, i have always loved the southeast asian countries and studies, but here i am in israel for the past 23 years due to , (quite unplanned) marrying an israeli... here i am 23 yrs later, divorced w/3, studying thai on my own and working as a zoo manager with an anthropology degree from the states... so why think 6 yrs ahead unless u are so nerdy that u have no imagination whatsoever, no people skills at all, and dont like any surprises .. and btw, in thailand, mai ben rai attitudes are the opposite of planning 6 yrs down the line... add to that: economic changes (drought floods, tourism ,) political problems (the south) etc

in general, unless u are thai or mix thai, why only thailand as opposed to any other country at such a ripe old age (unless you are a zionist and want to live in israel for instance, i'm still asking myself that one.. )

live the day

Edited August 22, 2005 by bina

[fanta rood]

But it only confirms my suspicions about foreigners in Thailand. Alot more after reading alot of other topics here.

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I'm not really sure what you mean by this, but I think it means one of the following:

1. Falang have a tough time getting highly paid jobs. True.

2. A recent high school graduate is not particularly marketable here. True.

3. The contributors to ThaiVisa will give you a warts-and-all overview of your prospects. True.

4. A master's degree is not the deciding factor in whether or not you get a good job. True.

5. A Thai master's degree isn't the most highly regarded around. True.

6. The ThaiVisa people are cynics who just want to knock you down. Untrue - you have been given a very gentle ride. Try your approach with any successful British or American company and see the feedback you get - if they even talk to you.

7. Farang working in LOS are just pulling up the drawbridge, having taken all the good jobs for themselves. Untrue - find out how well many farang (including graduates) actually do.

In the nicest sense (no sarcasm), the world is full of recent high school graduates with high hopes and unrealistic expectations. This does NOT mean that you shouldn't work at it, however. A 'here I am, come and get me' attitude simply doesn't work. The truth is, no matter how good you are, you need life experience, interpersonal skills and social skills, as well as academic qualifications.

You'll pick these up quicker than you think, but life's too short not to concentrate on enjoying life. Get your work/life balance right and enjoy life.

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Alright thanks for clearing up somethings for me.

in general, unless u are thai or mix thai, why only thailand as opposed to any other country at such a ripe old age (unless you are a zionist and want to live in israel for instance, i'm still asking myself that one.. tongue.gif tongue.gif )

live the day

Unless you are thai or mixed thai, right? That means you agree with me that foreigners have no business at all in Thailand. That means all those sex tourists, paedophiles, abusers, exploiters in Thailand need to go away as soon as possible.

I read topics like: "Hi, I'm a 50 year unemployed guy. I am single and I have had no education at all. I fallen in love with this 18 year old thai girl, but I think shes after my money. What should I do?"

You should be lucky you found someone. You should be happy you found your luck. You should be glad that you can get alot of $$$ doing nothing in Thailand. You need that girl more then she needs you. You ain't shit in your own country and you know it. You never going to find a wife and you will live forever being poor. Then why you act like this? Be happy you can exploit the local people in Thailand rob them of their money or be happy that you can become a teacher for alot $$$ (respect to teachers though). You think I don't know my own people, the westerners? I cry every night for the thai girls.

Hard working teachers, normal tourists, hard working people at multinationals? No problem! Peadophiles, exploiters, abusers? @#%$$%&.

Something else I am still orientating what I want to do. Nothing in life is guaranteed. What is guaranteed is that with my background and education I am 100% sure of getting a good job in America or EU. With my background and education I am 100% sure of a future in Thailand. Am I 100% sure that I will get a good job there? No, that's why I wanted to ask some things here what I need to do to increase my chances.

I like to keep my options open. If things don't work out in Thailand? No problem. If it does work out in Thailand, even better.

[bina]

Unless you are thai or mixed thai, right? That means you agree with me that foreigners have no business at all in Thailand. That means all those sex tourists, paedophiles, abusers, exploiters in Thailand need to go away as soon as possible.

learn to read properly: i'm asking you what YOUR pull is at the ripe old age of 17-18 for a future in thailand as opposed to just being a tourist, checking out the world etc... at your age if u were from mixed thai or thai parents living overseas, i could understand why u would think of a long term future there as opposed , to , lets say, switzerland, so i';m asking u what pulls u to thailand and not ireland, norway or indonesia for instance. thats all.... and there are all of the scum listed above in all countries, some are just more visisble thats all....

and u are very arrogant since i was asking u a question and second of all, i'm a mother, not a single 50 yr old male and third, not all thai girls are fresh and innocent being taken advantage of.... and not all single 50 yr old males are disgusting sex tourists since i've met many people in this forum who are intelligent human beings regardless of sex/sex orientation or age...u should just check out the more intelligent threads thats all...and

I lack social skills and knowledge about this forum.

yes u certainly do

a few posts and already lots of explecitives (sp?)and ranting.... sigh... it seems that teenagers around the world are fairly similar........

[SiamOne]

UUp! Thank you guys for the advice so far. But I would like to know a little bit more.

1. How do foreign people work in BKK? Are they only hiring English teachers? Are foreign people working in Thailand only teachers or people working at a multinational and got sent to thailand? I would like to know about the foreigns working in Thailand right now. Salary, colleagues, work pressure, qualifications, working times, details...

2. What about researchers, managers or the basic jobs that thai people do? Chances?

3. How about if I want to start my own company there what will happen? What must I do? How? Costs? Chances? Place?

4. What jobs advertisements are there in today's Bangkok Post? Job title, what degree and what salary?

5. What "higher educated" job advertisements are there in any Thai newspaper? Again what job title, what degree and what salary?

6. more advice for someone that wants to move to Thailand after his studies ofcourse is always welcome.

Thank you for your time.

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In general, a foreigner can only work in Thailand if he/she can do a job that a Thai person cannot. This is more or less the same rule that applies in many countries. Work permits are usually only issued to those with particular expertise.

My husband was offered a post in a company in Bangkok as he was very specialised in his field. No Thais could do what was required.

There are of course some exceptions, like teachers of a foreign language.

[SiamOne]

Up for one last time. I am disappointed about how much reactions I got so far.

But it only confirms my suspicions about foreigners in Thailand. Alot more after reading alot of other topics here.

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oh yes, and what are your suspicions??

could be interesting!!

[meelousee]

Ok for information only ,,,

I have masters in CIS/MIS

I am qualified to teach CIS, but by Thai law since they do have this degree plan I am barred from teaching it or doing a job that requires either or both.

It does not make any difference if I got this at Texas A&M or Jupiter the rules they have will be where they hang their hat.

Example: I had to show someone with a PHD how to start and run a AS400 a hot reboot (all power off) which he and his staff with the books could not do DOINK?. IBM would assist & but send a "expert" from the USA.

I did so illegally they paid me well but NO where near the US$15,000 ++ that would be charged from IBM.

Do you get it?

Edited August 23, 2005 by meelousee

[fanta rood]

In general, a foreigner can only work in Thailand if he/she can do a job that a Thai person cannot. This is more or less the same rule that applies in many countries. Work permits are usually only issued to those with particular expertise.

My husband was offered a post in a company in Bangkok as he was very specialised in his field. No Thais could do what was required.

There are of course some exceptions, like teachers of a foreign language.

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I am a thai hybrid. This means I have the thai nationality as well as an european one. I have the motivation and the talent to finish a technical study. This not only gives me a huge bonus (one of the oh so many reasons to get a physics master), but also guarantees me a job in America and EU. With this combination I have high success everywhere in the world. Do you understand now? Do you understand why I want to be in Thailand? Do you understand why I inform about Thailand? I like to keep as much options open as possible.

To be honest I am getting annoyed by the replies I got so far. People dissuade me from getting a master degree, dissuade me from going to thailand and give no information at all. And all that sarcasm and direct personal attacks. Why? I know you people have a lifetime of experience in Thailand. It takes 20 baht to buy the bangkok post and 5 min to write some of their advertisements on the internet. I know 95% are teachers, once again it takes 5 min to write what I asked for right here.

But most of all I am annoyed how you people behave in Thailand. You ain't shit in your own country and then you just go to Thailand to make a mess there? I can't believe the Thais aren't angry about this. I guess money makes people blind.

oh yes, and what are your suspicions??

could be interesting!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

I'm trying to get attention for this very popular thread. But no problem.

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Example: I had to show someone with a PHD how to start and run a AS400 a hot reboot (all power off) which he and his staff with the books could not do DOINK?. IBM would assist & but send a "expert" from the USA. 

I did so illegally they paid me well but NO where near the US$15,000 ++ that would be charged from IBM.

Do you get it?

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Wonderful! Degrees do miracles when it comes to rebooting machines. The locals must had dropped their jaws in awe.

However, for the accurracy in this "highly popular thread" I must add: hot reboot does not require power to be off. It requires outside temperature to exceed 42C.

I'm PhD in KISP and CISP, that was my thesis.